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Reaching out to my BL friends

I get random bouts of titinus and vertigo, I also experience sudden shift in hearing... similar to the feeling of diving when you feel the pressure change when you go deeper in the water. I never figured these are signs of eventual strokes or anything though. Nonetheless, sorry to hear about this.

I hope you recover so you can be happy for a change... I would probably do the same thing you're doing. Get a full check-up, I should add that perhaps it would be wise to seek out more help for the anxiety and make sure you are recovered from that first, as anxiety can also cause alot of physical symptoms including titinus, vertigo (which is appearant sometimes in DR/DP as well( So yeah, dangerous physical symptons or brought on by paranoia/anxiety? You CAN'T know for sure until you're anxiety free for a substantial ammount of time.
 
Damn FBC that sucks hope you recover well and hopefully you can enjoy things like it used to be...

Btw i haven't seen many pills in with 245mg i find that really hard to believe... Here in holland the strongest i have ever seen are Skulls and those are 300 mg of mdma.... but those are already super rare... and like majority of all pills are 150 - 220 max.
 
I'm not surprised to see a pill munching mod vs. a doomsday speaker here.
There was always something about my presence that gets the two extremes going at each other!

For the record, I recall reaching the same conclusion about the dosage.
Pill reports does not test purity against binding agents, only against adulterants.
Indeed, the pills were likely not 245mg pure MDMA.

But I strongly suspect they were more than 80mg.
Of all the previous tabs I had eaten prior to this batch, only one was stronger than these.
They were a clean but strong roll.
And Folley there could very well have been identical looking pills that you found once upon a time.
Now if you live in DFW...

I would have to assume these pills were at least 125-150mg based upon their effectiveness.
And this still puts me at 300mg per night, two weekends in a row, followed by 75mg.
And the damn probiotics...which I really think were the culprit.
I definitely had digestive problems during that roll!

But here is the REAL confounding factor for me - my WIFE.
You see, ladies and gentlemen, she took the same exact tabs.
Not just from this batch, but from every batch we got.
Pill for pill we were in lock-step the whole way.

Her usage of probiotics was reasonable - one pill.
And there was no DPH or digestive complaints from her!
And no Serotonin Syndrome either....

But sure enough, during our abstinence she showed CLEAR signs of mental problems that seemed to be lesser imitations of mine.
Could it be the stress of watching me almost die and degrade into a depressed, anxious person?
Sure.

But there was just too much similarity there.
Startle response, eventual change in vision, severe negative reaction to cannabis, ongoing anxiety and depression, strong positive response to exercise, negative response to poor diet, insomnia.
And lets not forget the undeniable WORSENING of her symptoms around her period.
Month after month I could see this happen - we are talking PMDD, which had never happened to her before.

Although the onset of her symptoms took 3-6 months, instead of instantaneous melt-down like mine, watching her has taught me a very simple truth....

Nobody escapes MDMA unscathed, especially when years upon years of heavy cannabis use precede the MDMA.
That is the other thing we had in common.
And this is a finding in many respected studies.
In fact....

There were suggestions that heavy MDMA use ALONE would only lead to cognitive decline with modest psychological problems.
But add in major weed smoking and the psychological problems are vastly amplified.
I know, just about everybody that rolls also smoke weed, so this is hard to prove.
And everybody expects a citation....

I do not believe those tabs were only 80mg.
But I'd sure like to know.

If they haven't been moved, I know where they are.
I removed them from my home and buried them.
If retrieved, I wonder if there is a lab that can test for actual MDMA quantity?
Any help?

Not critical to me, but I'm curious.

I had Serotonin Syndrome, and this can happen regardless of lifetime exposure to MDMA.
Because probiotics increase intestinal motility, I believe they are the primary culprit - the overlapping factor that truly caused my severe reaction. But there is no doubt in my mind, even without this SS event we were both headed towards a time of suffering.
And I blame it ALL upon the constant cannabis.

We smoked an ounce a week for years, until we graduated to hydro...and even hash.
I used to smoke until my brain was just FRIED.
As much as I liked it, I would have GLADLY traded that habit for a hundred or so great MDMA experiences!

Good news: I went to the gym and lived.
My first work-out since the 'stroke' was ok.
I'm still a little off in the head, but I'm waiting on the neurologist to call.
I'd love to be told I never had any TIA's, or at least any that left traces.
Then I'd be left with nothing but subjective experiences that are probably the result of changes to serotonergic transmission.
Whatever.

I will revisit.
And attempt to respond to those in my inbox.
Thanks again everyone.
 
I've cleaned up loads of pointless bickering in this thread. Let us please work to get it back on track.
If there are any issues you are having with someone and how they moderate either PM them, use the report button to notify the staff of the problems you're running into, or contact their superiors. We don't use peoples threads that are fairly serious and have a lot of effort put into them to stoop to a level of arguing back and forth and reducing the thread to a playground for name calling.
Don't we owe the OP a little more focus and care than that?

Lets play nice, kiddies. Pretty please?
 
I've cleaned up loads of pointless bickering in this thread. Let us please work to get it back on track.
If there are any issues you are having with someone and how they moderate either PM them, use the report button to notify the staff of the problems you're running into, or contact their superiors. We don't use peoples threads that are fairly serious and have a lot of effort put into them to stoop to a level of arguing back and forth and reducing the thread to a playground for name calling.
Don't we owe the OP a little more focus and care than that?

Lets play nice, kiddies. Pretty please?

I'm so sorry if I said some harsh words.. I was tryin to stop the fight in a funny way but I guess I went over the line.. I'd like to apologize to laugh. finished and mostly FBC :(
 
You didn't really do anything bad. It's just you had replied to posts that I was getting rid of and I wanted all traces of the bickering to be gone from the thread so it can get back onto the actual subject. It would look really strange with just 4-5 posts by you in a row telling invisible posters to stop fighting.
No big deal :)
 
And this still puts me at 300mg per night, two weekends in a row, followed by 75mg.

It's a weird one, what you describe above is probably being taken by hundreds of thousands of people every weekened. I can't help but fell you got SERIOUSLY unlucky or something else was triggered as a result of the MDMA. I have no idea what pro-biotics are let alone how they interact with MDMA.
 
Man i just hope you get better and this isn't anything serious! I guess some people are more sensitive to the downsides of certain chemicals and you were just unlucky.. That doesn't mean mdma is ''safe'' for others and people here need to be more carefull with their use..

I wish you the best FBC
 
i think it was your bad combo at the beginning fbc

800mg dxm then 9 days later 200mg+ mdma wasnt my smartest move, and im sure that did a lot of damage lol
 
FBC i have a quiestion..could be seizures under all of this? have you read something related? a found something included the brain zaps and so on...but i want to know more.
Thanks.
 
Like others this is my first post though I have been reading threads on mdma damage for quite some time. I, too, am unfortunately among those who have been completely messed up by ecstasy (or whatever like substance I consumed). First, I would like to say that I'm happy to see you're still hanging in there FBC. Your posts offered a lot of information that BL will forever benefit from. Thank you. I only wish I would have found this place before I took that shit. The problem I'm currently struggling with the most is a lot of the time I feel physically ill which makes it hard to get things done. I was wondering to FBC and others what was the timeline for your quality of life improving? Currently I'm at 6 months. Sorry for the long read.
 
im on month 5 atmmm I feel way better than the past few months.. Have you exercised? I find that exercise makes me feel a ton better :)
 
The problem I'm currently struggling with the most is a lot of the time I feel physically ill which makes it hard to get things done. I was wondering to FBC and others what was the timeline for your quality of life improving? Currently I'm at 6 months. Sorry for the long read.

I have had two long term comedowns the first one lasted for 6 months.

As Jonnavi mentions exercise helped a lot and also I took 5HTP and Vitamin C.

The cause of my long term comedowns was from a mix of MDMA & Piperazine a lethal combo.
 
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This post although interesting is going to lead to young and impressionable users being able to cross reference any small changes they notice with themselves post MDMA use and them self diagnosing one of the million issues that you think you have had.

Its the famous bluelight perpetual HARM CREATION system. The more the kids read these horror stories the more likely they will attibute feeling a little bit off post MDMA with anxiety, serotonin syndrome (which is extremely rare AFAIK), HPPD etc etc etc
 
This post although interesting is going to lead to young and impressionable users being able to cross reference any small changes they notice with themselves post MDMA use and them self diagnosing one of the million issues that you think you have had.

Its the famous bluelight perpetual HARM CREATION system. The more the kids read these horror stories the more likely they will attibute feeling a little bit off post MDMA with anxiety, serotonin syndrome (which is extremely rare AFAIK), HPPD etc etc etc

I really do agree with this post. It's fairly apparent from the get-go that what's going on here is well beyond harm reduction and even beyond MDMA. The whole situation has been unhealthy for quite some time, and it now works against the credibility and general interest of Bluelight.
 
i have never read anything bad before my comedown...just came here BECAUSE of my comedown longterm...what unlucky, i wish itcould be possible to read horror stories to never take mdma maybe..
 
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