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RCs RC's with analgesic properties?

GBM

GBM

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I tried searching but its such a weird question TBH. I've never heard of any. But does any one here have a list of RC's that have SIGNIFICANT analgesic properties? Not "it has been shown to give slight pain relief to a few people" but more looking for RC's, herbs, any drug I can buy online, that has STRONG analgesic properties. I have a lot of pain and not a lot of medical help. Some insight: It takes 8mg of hydromorphone insuffalted (yes thats right, oral wont quite do the trick) to get rid of my pain, and get the LIGHTEST of opiate buzzes. I'm really at the end of my wits as far as this pain goes.
I've heard kratom, kava (possibly), does anyone else here know of any RC's or natural substances that have strong analgesic properties?
 
How are you defining RCs?

RC just stands for research chemical and there are theoretically infinite with analgesic properties. As for a natural plant like kratom I would hardly call it a research chemical. Though I suppose chemically altering it's active alkaloids would count.

I really think you need to be talking to your pain management doc about this and not looking for illegal or experimental (i.e. dangerous) highs on the internet. 8mg hydromorphone is high but not the limit of narcotic treatment. It is a lot more effective than anything you are going to be able to easily find on the internet.
 
I dont have a pain management doc i was kicked out of my doctors office and accused of trying to scam him out of painkillers when this isnt the case.

I also said RC's or natural substances. Natural substances being the kava and kratom.
 
I don't know all that much about it, and unfortunately do not have the time to do the research to make a long informative post, but check out the substance methoxetamine. It's a research chemical that is similar to ketamine, but apparently has activity in certain opioid receptors.

Check it out.
 
You're probably not going to get much out of kratom or kava if you're looking for pain relief and require 8mg of insufflated hydromorphone to achieve that. Overall you probably won't find potent-enough opioids readily available.

You might have some success if you can get 7-hydroxymitragynine or O-desmethyltramadol.

As BdP mentioned, methoxetamine might be of some use as an NMDA antagonist but its not the type of drug you want to be dosing all the time.

Lastly, you have synthetic cannabinoids which can be rather effective analgesics.

Overall though, as amapola said, this is really not a good strategy. Its nearly inevitable that any worthwhile RC will be pulled from the market at some point and if you are at all prone to abusing these drugs then either or both factors will likely leave you worse off eventually. Your best bet is to find another physician and strictly adhere to his suggestions and prescriptions. You said you were falsely accused of 'scamming' your last doctor but in almost the same breath talked about insufflated hydromorphone so that makes me question whether or not you were abusing what you were prescribed.

If you have legitimate pain and require strong analgesia, just keep advocating for yourself with physicians and you'll likely find one who will work with you if you're willing to work with them.
 
No I hadn't told my doctor about what drugs ive tried. He never gave me a prescription for opiates, im going based on what ive tried. What I tell here and what I tell my doctor are obviously going to be different, and I'm not gonna run around telling my doctor im buying hydromorphone on the street and snorting it lmao. I'm in pain, not an idiot.

Im not just someone trying to get my fix, I'm actually trying to get the medication for legitimate reasons. Its just hard because most addicts go to their doctors to get their fix and ruin it for the people who actually need it.
 
What's your diagnosis? If you don't have one, you need to get one to be sure there's no way you can treat the source before resigning yourself to requiring pain management. Even if you have or get a diagnosis that means you'll have chronic pain, your best bet hands down is to still find a physician to work with you for the reasons I outlined above. Treating this yourself is almost guaranteed to be unsustainable and likely to exacerbate your situation.
 
Okay, I was under the impression that you had a doctor prescribing you hydromorphone and then were looking for legal or pseudo-legal substances you could take in addition. If you are just getting your hydromorphone off the street then (besides the obvious advice of trying to find and work with a doctor) I think you'll be better off continuing on that path of illegally obtained prescription meds as opposed to delving into RCs.

Usually I would recommend something like kratom instead, but if you need 8mg of snorted Dilaudid just to deal with the pain, you're going to require a solid and consistent amount of powerful RC opioids which is really not safe.

Some sort of dissociative or non narcotic painkiller like the cannabinoids might help as well I suppose, but there is no way I would recommend these for a daily use or a long term solution either.
 
I'd also like to point out that 8mg of hydromorphone insuffaled takes the pain and gives a LIGHT buzz WITH NO TOLERANCE. I hardly ever take opiates (only on the days where I literally can NOT move). I have no reason as to why it takes so much it just does. Thats why I was thinking something natural may work on me in regular doses?
 
Well give kratom a try or 7-oh-mitragynine and analogues then. Codeine is available over the counter in Canada and though you may need a lot to equal a few milligrams of hydromorphone at least it's only illegal from Cold Water Extracting until you ingest it.
 
Check out dermorphin
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Dermorphin requires extreme caution (active at the microgram scale), and its only human bioassays have been for occasional recreational usage, not repetitive for chronic pain. I'd highly recommend trying something less potent to start OP.
 
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