maddawg300
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Anyone here experienced any RC benzos and wish to compare them to pharmaceutical benzos and how they felt off of them?
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only true pharmaceutical benzo I have had access to (not including z-drugs) is Diazepam.
Etizolam was like a harder-hitting, shorter-lived Valium.
Diclazepam to me felt very weak in comparison to even a weak Valium and took extremely long to take full effect. Lasted about as long too imo.
Flubromazepam was very similar to Valium, but ever so slighly more subtle.
Pyrazolam was rubbish.
all of this is entirely subjective and are only my personal accounts.
Etizolam was like a harder-hitting, shorter-lived Valium.
Diclazepam to me felt very weak in comparison to even a weak Valium and took extremely long to take full effect. Lasted about as long too imo.
Flubromazepam was very similar to Valium, but ever so slighly more subtle.
Pyrazolam was rubbish.
all of this is entirely subjective and are only my personal accounts.
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maddawg300
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So what you are saying is that none of these are worth dipping my hands into?
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no man, I would only reserve benzodiazepines for particularly brutal comedowns from uppers - and even then I would use them sparingly.
Etizolam holds it's own compared to prescribed benzos, and definitely worth it if you like benzos.
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So basically etizolam was the only RC benzo worth trying and now its been banned so there are no RC benzos worth trying
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I've tried etizolam; lorazepam (ativan); diazepam; alprazolam; clonazepam; & temazepam.
Etizolam was wonderful & probably my favorite next to lorazepam then alprazolam. Very hard hitting anxiolytic; but i was up to 30mg-40mg/day.. where the threshold dose is 0.25-0.5mg. Benzo w/d is no joke, I'd rather experience heroin w/d again--i'm 2 months clean; well i was weaned off w/ lorazepam a week ago; but as of 2 months ago i've been on only 6mg of lorazepam a day which was only good enough for a maintenance dose; & did a month long wean off. Anxiety is horrible; tremors in social situation; no sleep..
Etizolam was wonderful & probably my favorite next to lorazepam then alprazolam. Very hard hitting anxiolytic; but i was up to 30mg-40mg/day.. where the threshold dose is 0.25-0.5mg. Benzo w/d is no joke, I'd rather experience heroin w/d again--i'm 2 months clean; well i was weaned off w/ lorazepam a week ago; but as of 2 months ago i've been on only 6mg of lorazepam a day which was only good enough for a maintenance dose; & did a month long wean off. Anxiety is horrible; tremors in social situation; no sleep..
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etizolam is like H at high doses... be careful I'm an W/D now from a massive benzo habit and it feels like my CNS is going through a shredder, RC benzos make addiction much easier!
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I tried phenazepam, and did not like it at all. But t is one of those that sneaks up on you.
I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
I'm sure what I've heard about etizolam i would love it.......so i will prolly never try it....benzo use and me = poor decision making
I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
I'm sure what I've heard about etizolam i would love it.......so i will prolly never try it....benzo use and me = poor decision making
HdoubleODeezy
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You may not like phenazepam now (i have always loved it tho) but think of this..
You get a connect to as much etizolam as you want, keep in mind it is short acting and for some very moreish.
After months you end up dosing daily instead of the 2-3 times a week as planned.
Finally after a year has passed you want off but the etiz has its claws in you so deep that your a slave and need to dose about every 6 hours.
You cant taper with it, it's too short acting and a danger to cause seizures.
So you go to your doctor telling them about your issue, 1- a lot of drs nowadays wont help and 2- you will be labeled a drug addicr.
In comes your own way to get off the nast etiz, a long acting RC benzo is what you need.
So you search atound and the last thing you should want is a long acting RECREATIONAL one since you wanna get clean.
SOOOO you get phenazepam, doses are equiv to that of etizolam.
You can take it once in the morning and forget about needing to redose the rest of the day.
Than you slowly lower your morning phenazepam dose mg by mg over a couple months and then jump off.
BAM now benzo free..
You still hate phenazepam and think you wouldn't touch it with a 10ft pole?
Every benzo has a certain positive side and negative side. In this hypothetical case i just made, phenazepam is perfect.
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Phenazepam does have a tendency to be deceptively subtle. There's a lot of cases of people deciding "hey I didn't take enough phenazepam my last dose" and then suddenly they're naked and in the middle of a busy highway.
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^ lol i imagined an image for that
But the subtlety of it is what makes it great to take once in the morning and feel as if you get no "buzz" is helpful in recovery if you're serious about getting clean.
Just dose you equiv dose of etiz 6mg etiz = 6mg phenazepam.. take 6mg phenaz in the AM or maybe if one would prefer 3mg AM 3mg PM and it can take up to 4 hours to take full effect, by that time you've started your day and can focus on the more important things in life.
You are right tho, it may require a certain degree of self control but i think if someone is using it for genuinely getting off benzos and not ordering it in the mail and waiting anxiously for it to arrive just to take and get "fucked up" that it is a very useful drug.
One of my favorites definitely.. 2nd only to clonazepam for me YMMV.. btw that story i made up as a hypothetical.. its my story and how i did it lol.
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But the subtlety of it is what makes it great to take once in the morning and feel as if you get no "buzz" is helpful in recovery if you're serious about getting clean.
Just dose you equiv dose of etiz 6mg etiz = 6mg phenazepam.. take 6mg phenaz in the AM or maybe if one would prefer 3mg AM 3mg PM and it can take up to 4 hours to take full effect, by that time you've started your day and can focus on the more important things in life.
You are right tho, it may require a certain degree of self control but i think if someone is using it for genuinely getting off benzos and not ordering it in the mail and waiting anxiously for it to arrive just to take and get "fucked up" that it is a very useful drug.
One of my favorites definitely.. 2nd only to clonazepam for me YMMV.. btw that story i made up as a hypothetical.. its my story and how i did it lol.
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haha good ol phenaz.... those were the days LOL.... RC Benzo wise, from what i've read flubromazolam (not Pam) is very very strong, and has a very long half life, people have compared it to flunitrazepam (Rohipnol, rooofies....), actif at microskopick doses, it's safest to get as blotter form, from a reliable vendor (i do not have one)...
Apart from that one atm (they're putting new RC benzo analogues at light speed on the market) Etizolam, meclonazepam and flubromazepam are solid, efficiant for stim come-downs, i have a high tolerance so i can't really say there rec. value.... IME Etizolam is the safest bet, has that lovely valium relax feeling to it allthough shorter duration.... the other two were very pleasant too and came in very handy....
That being said i still prefer my scripted benzos, valium, loprazolam, lormetazepam, alprazolam, prazepam, ethyl loflazepate etc. to name some i take from time to time (trading is noice), furthermore i am "lucky" enough to live in a country with a great health care, so those goodies are all freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
on MXE atm so if this post is strange don't worry, i tried my best
Apart from that one atm (they're putting new RC benzo analogues at light speed on the market) Etizolam, meclonazepam and flubromazepam are solid, efficiant for stim come-downs, i have a high tolerance so i can't really say there rec. value.... IME Etizolam is the safest bet, has that lovely valium relax feeling to it allthough shorter duration.... the other two were very pleasant too and came in very handy....
That being said i still prefer my scripted benzos, valium, loprazolam, lormetazepam, alprazolam, prazepam, ethyl loflazepate etc. to name some i take from time to time (trading is noice), furthermore i am "lucky" enough to live in a country with a great health care, so those goodies are all freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
on MXE atm so if this post is strange don't worry, i tried my best
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EarthBounded
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Not everyone can easily get prescribed benzos 8) , In which case from my own experience I am in the USA and etizolam properly measured was the best fit for me. w/d sucks however all benzo w/d is bad ![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
well i have used etizolam, flubromazepam and diclazepam. (rc)
non-rc benzos i tried were diazepam, alprazolam and lorazepam. (medical)
so my info might be to some use for you
(but plz consider i just took some xanax and smoked a joint, so excuse any mind jumping or such)
firs of, from all the therapeutical benzos, the one the helps me most and i enjoy most is alprazolam. but its also has the hardest withdrawel i ever witnessed in my life,
from all other drugs, not only benzoes.
from the rc benzoes, none of them rly made me addicted like medical benzos. only flubromazepam had some huge magic due its long life and very own style (6-8 hours). hard to compare.
but its like when u take 1 pill the whole day alrdy is like "unrealsitic" and u can loose "overview" very easy with it, i fear..... campares best to lorazepam, i think. (more on bottom)
etizolam in my opinion is the "worst" of all those benzos list above, BUT ONLY when it comes to really tranqualize you. it does have therapeutical potential in some points,
but it definitly not calmed down my pulse, running thoughts and stuff like that. it just made me " dumb" and the feeling of typical "its ok" + memory loss. not so enjoyable but working.
u could say it only took away 70% of the "problems" and then lets me alone... u need to get used to it
still i dont recommed to have this as emergency benzo. at home, for really worse cases, 1mg of alprazolam will save your ass 10x better then 2mg of etizolam.
so sleeping on etis is ok, but sleeping on alpras is mhmhmhmhmhmhmh
valium/diazepam is pretty solid and can be compared to Diclazepam, in my personal opinion.
i wont talk about that much, as everybody knows it and its not very spectacular in my opinion. but good and solid.
in REAL emegery though i would prefer having diazepam (diclazepam) over alpras.
BUT still , in case of just wanting to relax at home with tv or music, i would prefer some etizolam (if must be rc).
again i think eti feels lot like alpra, but it doesnt give the same good calming to the body, as it gives to the head.
me myself, im done with rc benzos. back to alpras. and im watching my usage and dosages very close.
i think someone who took benzo more then "once" should always have a archive about his pills. the count and everything...
man how often was i standing there and couldnt remeber if i took a pill or not. my book now always know
if u like drink beer (not that i want to say u should do that, since its not 100% safe) i would go for eti... it has got a shorter half life and
if it werent to many beer, theres not such an high risk while sleeping. but as u know, never ever overdue alchole and NEVER do hard alcohole, not even on RC benzo.
in short: rc benzos are working and have similarities but nothing does its job like diazepam or alprazolam.
good night
edit: forgot to say something about lorazepam... well i think it would compare best to flubromazepam, if i have to choose. it has a longer half-life.
i didnt take many of them. i dunno why, but xanax did the job for me. never change a running system
xanax has the perfect halflife for me, and my body can handle it good. also theres no urgue to take more or change my dose,
for unreasonable reasons... just the day when u think, u want to try it without and "be normal", this can be be a shit time...
oh and if u want try all common rc-benzos, go this order: 1.diclazepam, 2.etizolam, 3.flubromazepam
hvae fun & take care!
non-rc benzos i tried were diazepam, alprazolam and lorazepam. (medical)
so my info might be to some use for you
(but plz consider i just took some xanax and smoked a joint, so excuse any mind jumping or such)
firs of, from all the therapeutical benzos, the one the helps me most and i enjoy most is alprazolam. but its also has the hardest withdrawel i ever witnessed in my life,
from all other drugs, not only benzoes.
from the rc benzoes, none of them rly made me addicted like medical benzos. only flubromazepam had some huge magic due its long life and very own style (6-8 hours). hard to compare.
but its like when u take 1 pill the whole day alrdy is like "unrealsitic" and u can loose "overview" very easy with it, i fear..... campares best to lorazepam, i think. (more on bottom)
etizolam in my opinion is the "worst" of all those benzos list above, BUT ONLY when it comes to really tranqualize you. it does have therapeutical potential in some points,
but it definitly not calmed down my pulse, running thoughts and stuff like that. it just made me " dumb" and the feeling of typical "its ok" + memory loss. not so enjoyable but working.
u could say it only took away 70% of the "problems" and then lets me alone... u need to get used to it
still i dont recommed to have this as emergency benzo. at home, for really worse cases, 1mg of alprazolam will save your ass 10x better then 2mg of etizolam.
so sleeping on etis is ok, but sleeping on alpras is mhmhmhmhmhmhmh
valium/diazepam is pretty solid and can be compared to Diclazepam, in my personal opinion.
i wont talk about that much, as everybody knows it and its not very spectacular in my opinion. but good and solid.
in REAL emegery though i would prefer having diazepam (diclazepam) over alpras.
BUT still , in case of just wanting to relax at home with tv or music, i would prefer some etizolam (if must be rc).
again i think eti feels lot like alpra, but it doesnt give the same good calming to the body, as it gives to the head.
me myself, im done with rc benzos. back to alpras. and im watching my usage and dosages very close.
i think someone who took benzo more then "once" should always have a archive about his pills. the count and everything...
man how often was i standing there and couldnt remeber if i took a pill or not. my book now always know
if u like drink beer (not that i want to say u should do that, since its not 100% safe) i would go for eti... it has got a shorter half life and
if it werent to many beer, theres not such an high risk while sleeping. but as u know, never ever overdue alchole and NEVER do hard alcohole, not even on RC benzo.
in short: rc benzos are working and have similarities but nothing does its job like diazepam or alprazolam.
good night
edit: forgot to say something about lorazepam... well i think it would compare best to flubromazepam, if i have to choose. it has a longer half-life.
i didnt take many of them. i dunno why, but xanax did the job for me. never change a running system
xanax has the perfect halflife for me, and my body can handle it good. also theres no urgue to take more or change my dose,
for unreasonable reasons... just the day when u think, u want to try it without and "be normal", this can be be a shit time...
oh and if u want try all common rc-benzos, go this order: 1.diclazepam, 2.etizolam, 3.flubromazepam
hvae fun & take care!
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maddawg300
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mrsiniz, very informative on RC benzos, thanks for your comment just got my re-up on xanax and have a scrip for ativan but I appreciate your input a lot, thanks!
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