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crackhead420

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I'm going to a rave tommorow, swim can get some pure mdma powder to snort for £20 for a dose for one person (0.5g), swim is underaged, swim smokes cannabis around once a week, swim has never had cannabis edibles, swim has never taken any other drugs, swim has never been drunk only tipsy, swim may be underaged for alcohol, swim is wondering what stimulant to take for this rave, swim wants one that isn't too expensive or addictive, not a trippy one, makes you talk more and not that dangerous, swim also knows someone who says mdma is really dangerous and hates it but smokes weed, swim also has some weed on him, swim also could make some brownies, swim is also going to be at the rave for around 8 hours, swim also has never been to a rave and this is an illegal one, swim is also kinda open minded :)
 
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first, no SWIMming here.
second, .5g is a LOT of mdma, you shouldnt need more than .1-.2 if this is your first time.
third, buy a test kit because theres a good chance its not mdma.
fourth, we don't reccomend what drugs to take

read the rules
 
My question is what stimulant is the saffest apart from caffeine and my friend said .5 is enough, guess ill buy less, I can't get a testing kit by tommorow
 
crackhead420 said:
My question is what stimulant is the saffest apart from caffeine and my friend said .5 is enough, guess ill buy less, I can't get a testing kit by tommorow
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DO NOT BUY IT. AT ALL.


If he says you need .5 to roll, it's not MDMA, and you don't want it. He's probably selling you bath salts (Methylone, MDPV, etc) as MDMA... and if he's not, his dealer is.


Rolling on fake "Molly" will probably be the worst experience of your life, get a reagent kit (http://dancesafe.org/node/14312) and TEST YOUR SHIT. More fake shit is sold than real MDMA these days, and you just CANNOT trust anyone in this game. Especially not some dumbass noob who says you need .5 to roll, that's ridiculous.



You'll be a lot happier if you just smoked weed. Maybe down a 5 Hour Energy for some stimulation, but I would stay away from any drugs your "friend" gives you.



Friends don't give friends fake drugs.






oh, and unless you have like an ounce, I'd stay away from making brownies
 
My question is what stimulant is the saffest apart from caffeine
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If you believe the FDA approval system as the definition of "safe" then the safest stimulants would likely be something like methylphenidate (also marketed as Ritalin) or dexamphetamine (also marketed as Dexedrine)

Both of these stimulants are used in the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and narcolepsy.

and my friend said .5 is enough, guess ill buy less, I can't get a testing kit by tommorow
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Do you mean MDMA? If so 150mG is about the max recommended dose you should take. 0.5G is too much.

Or if I should make some pot brownies and have them instead or smoke the weed
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I find when I eat weed or cannabis the effect is a lot stronger. Much more hallucinogenic and a bit over powering. When you eat weed it is a lot more efficient you get more bang for your buck.

This is because a lot is wasted when you blaze it.

If you eat it you need a certain amount for it to take an effect. A couple of .5cm chunks would probabaly do it.

When you eat it it is harder to control the dose. When you smoke its easier to gauge as you go.
 
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Thanks so I guess ill eat weed, how many grams should I take and how long will the high be?
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Difficult question to answer. Try 100mG and work up. When you eat the come up can take up to an hour or so.
 
futura2012 said:
Difficult question to answer. Try 100mG and work up. When you eat the come up can take up to an hour or so.
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lolol 100mg of weed? Even my amazing medical weed wouldn't do shit with .1 oral.


Eat a gram, at the very least. That's what they'll tell you over in CD. I eat like 3 grams, and the high is still relatively mild....


I find when I eat weed or cannabis the effect is a lot stronger. Much more hallucinogenic and a bit over powering. When you eat weed it is a lot more efficient you get more bang for your buck.

This is because a lot is wasted when you blaze it.
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100% disagree with that... eating weed is almost a straight waste of it. Unless you eat a bunch, it's not going to be very strong at all. It takes like 2 hours to kick in, and your high is spread out over 12 hours instead of 2 like when you smoke it... plus the BA% is much lower for oral THC, so it's going to be less effective.

You don't waste that much THC when you burn it, but you probably need to eat four times as much (if not more) weed than you would normally smoke
 
lol 100mg of weed? Even my amazing medical weed wouldn't do shit with .1 oral.

Eat a gram, at the very least. That's what they'll tell you over in CD. I eat like 3 grams, and the high is still relatively mild....
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It depends on exactly what you have. Depends on the definition of weed. Sensi, Charris, Minali etc is very strong. i guess like with all other advice I air on the side of caution. Start small work up. Eating weed is strong its not pleasant if you OD. If you UD you just need more very easy.

eating weed is almost a straight waste of it. Unless you eat a bunch, it's not going to be very strong at all.
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plus the BA% is much lower for oral THC, so it's going to be less effective.
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but you probably need to eat four times as much (if not more) weed than you would normally smoke
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This is nonsense

My own personal experiences of eating cannabis resin was very powerful. Sensations of floating and completely out of my mind. This was from approx 300mG. It was not pleasant but very strong.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_faq_consumption.shtml

EATING & DRINKING

The active ingredients in cannabis are fat and alcohol soluble so they can be extracted and added to foodstuff entering the system through the digestive tract rather than through the lungs. This type of consumption of marijuana tend to be both slower and more efficient than smoking it. Further the noxious effects of consuming heated smoke are completely eliminated. For these reasons this is the favored method of marijuana consumption by many people.

Eating
It is a myth that dried marijuana is completely inactive and must be heated before being consumed to activate the cannabanoids. While heating can increase potency by converting a less potent form of THC through decarboxylation[1], some psychoactivity is present even in fresh leaves and buds. Raw, dried cannabis taken orally can be quite strong, according to numerous first hand reports. Cooking extractions such as using butter or olive oil in a pan with heat are the most common ways to make cannabis-based foods and is considered to result in near maximum potency. [Section edited by Erowid Jul 2009].
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The bioavalibility of THC is:
10-35% (inhalation), 6-20% (oral)
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So oral THC is less effective. On top of that, it takes 2 hours for you to even start to feel it, and since the dose is spread out over such a long time instead of at once like smoking, it will seem much more mild in effects. 100mg of even hash oil, the strongest form of hash, wouldn't do much... and that when your talking about medical edibles designed to be effective when eaten.


For regular, mid-grade marijuana, .5-1g is starting low


If you UD you just need more very easy.
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Again, I'd have to disagree with that. If something takes 2 hours to kick in, you can't just take more to bump up the effects... by the time you realize you need more, you've completely wasted the first dose and the second will be much, much less effective.
 
The bioavalibility of THC is:
10-35% (inhalation), 6-20% (oral)
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based on what source or finding?

On top of that, it takes 2 hours for you to even start to feel it,
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Depends on the type of weed, depends on the person, depends on many things.

and since the dose is spread out over such a long time instead of at once like smoking, it will seem much more mild in effects.
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Not true. When you eat it the effects can be overpowering.

100mg of even hash oil, the strongest form of hash, wouldn't do much... and that when your talking about medical edibles designed to be effective when eaten.
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Speculative - start low work up best advice i can give to anyone trying something new.

For regular, mid-grade marijuana, .5-1g is starting low
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5g would be over an 8th of an ounce. if you ate this in resin you would be tripping balls. That is not low.

If something takes 2 hours to kick in, you can't just take more to bump up the effects... by the time you realize you need more, you've completely wasted the first dose and the second will be much, much less effective.
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Two hours is debatable. Just because a low dose doesnt work it doesnt mean its not in your blood. To predict the effect you describe you would have to analyse the drugs half life and it is not this simple.

Why would a second bump be any less effective?
 
DO NOT EAT WEED. Harden junkies won't eat weed. And it's all wrong for a rave.

I suggest you go to pillreports.com and check some pills out. Try to score pills, if you dont have a test kit, there's a small chance they are fake but it is small.

Depends where you are, US maybe tougher...UK sure you will score pills.
 
based on what source or finding?
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Wikipedia, you can follow the link to the study on their page

Depends on the type of weed, depends on the person, depends on many things.
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A bit, but still, the THC is converted in to 11-Hydroxy-THC, this process can take a large amount of time, and is usually slowed down because you eat a meal (the brownies) with the dose. If you just ate the activated weed, it might work faster, but it still takes probably an hour an a half at the least

and this is from personal experience with eating brownies and THC capsules many times on different settings and on full, or empty stomachs. If you eat brownies on a full stomach, you probably would feel it for like 3 hours.

Speculative - start low work up best advice i can give to anyone trying something new.
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Not completely. When you go to the medical shop and ask for oral THC, they will recommend you to eat .1 of hash oil in a capsule or edibles. This is because that's the medical dose, it gives you the benefits without getting you high. They recommend .25 of hash along with your normal smoked dosage for all day, yet still relatively mild, effects.

5g would be over an 8th of an ounce. if you ate this in resin you would be tripping balls. That is not low.
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haha oh I'd never recommend that... I said .5g, or half a gram.



Why would a second bump be any less effective?
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Besides the fact that it takes so long to kick in, the first dose of any drug is the most effective. If you tried smoking one hit of weed, then an hour later smoke another hit, obviously you're not going to be as high as if you took those 2 hits at the same time

Just because a low dose doesnt work it doesnt mean its not in your blood.
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But he doesn't just want it in his blood... he wants to actually feel it and not waste his weed, I'm sure.


Erring on the side of caution is always a good thing, but if you take it too far it's not helpful to anyone. We don't want to underdose people, we want them to be able to take the perfect dose in one shot. Whether that MDMA, or weed brownies
 
mark881 said:
DO NOT EAT WEED. Harden junkies won't eat weed. And it's all wrong for a rave.

I suggest you go to pillreports.com and check some pills out. Try to score pills, if you dont have a test kit, there's a small chance they are fake but it is small.

Depends where you are, US maybe tougher...UK sure you will score pills.
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I don't have a testing kit or time to get one, I'm in uk and my current weed dealer can introduce me to a safe dealer that sells mdma powder so its pure I think unlike most pills because he says the powder is much safer, tbh I would like to try mdma once in my life because I heard its the best feeling of your life oh and whoever said .5 is too much this is for like 8 hours so I'm gonna be taking lines seperately
 
i wouldnt say anything other than mdma would be the worst experience of my life. of course there is a chance that your pure powder is in fact bzp, tfmpp, methylone, mephedrone, a mixture of these or something else completely.

i wouldnt do lines of mdma. maybe 1 or 2 to kickstart it but i would much rather just take 1 solid dose in pill form
 
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