Rate the legal highs

[Mona Lisa]

They probably will now, thanks to this suggestion. 8)

 

[smackem]

I hate even talking about pods, cause I know, one day, the party will be over. Cheap, quasilegal morphine. MMMHHHH

 

[burn out]

Booze (3/10) - Bleh, I've never liked this stuff. You're buzzed, but you can't really enjoy it because your mind is barely working. Why is this the most popular high in the USA again? Oh yeah, because the government wants people to be kept stupid

no, it's popular because its legal and its legal because prohibition was a massive failure. since it had been legal for so long before that, society wasn't terrified of re-legalizing it like they are terrified of legalizing the more mysterious drugs despite prohibition failing to eradicate them. there is no conspiracy about wanting people to be kept stupid, if that were true the government should legalize all CNS depressants.

as for only giving it a 3/10, i think that's underestimating it. why do you think so many people who have access to lots of illegal drugs still drink alcohol? its because, in small amounts especially, alcohol can be a relatively safe and enjoyable drug.

 

[ladyinthesky]

DXM 3/10...dirty, disgusting, cheap, gross

Nitrous 9/10....a lot of fun, wish it lasted longer

Alcohol 5/10 i like it but dont like to get sloppy drunk

 

[BodhiSvaha33]

no, it's popular because its legal and its legal because prohibition was a massive failure. since it had been legal for so long before that, society wasn't terrified of re-legalizing it like they are terrified of legalizing the more mysterious drugs despite prohibition failing to eradicate them. there is no conspiracy about wanting people to be kept stupid, if that were true the government should legalize all CNS depressants.

as for only giving it a 3/10, i think that's underestimating it. why do you think so many people who have access to lots of illegal drugs still drink alcohol? its because, in small amounts especially, alcohol can be a relatively safe and enjoyable drug.

Yeah, the line about the government was a joke. I'm no conspiracy theorist.

I actually enjoy a little alcohol from time to time, mostly in combination with other drugs. I have been using blue lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) quite a bit lately. I think I have been underestimating it. If you mix BL extract with alcohol, or steep the petals in alcohol, it gives a very strong, long-lasting, opiate-like buzz. Add a little caffeine to stay awake and you have a great evening.

Some posts on another forum have inspired me to make a little homemade "absinthe" with grain alcohol, powdered wormwood, and blue lotus petals. I will post how it turns out.

 

[MDPVagrant]

Now I'm confused as hell. I mean, there are RCs that are unscheduled and probably not even analogs, but you still can't buy them from US vendors on the internet, much less OTC. Poppy pods are sold in craft stores. I've seen 'em. And from what I understand, they are mostly P. somniferum.

AFAIK most people just don't know that poppy pods can be "abused," and if it were common knowledge they would vanish utterly. Does that clear the picture up for you any?

I hate even talking about pods, cause I know, one day, the party will be over. Cheap, quasilegal morphine. MMMHHHH

Not all that cheap.

 

[BodhiSvaha33]

Ditto, although the physical side effects do indeed blow. The CNS stimulation is FAR better than anything you'll get from ephedrine IMO, but you do have to put up with the peripheral uglies to get it.

P.S. currently experimenting with hydroxyzine pamoate (an excellent potentiator) and tramadol, to see if this is a good enough combination to challenge codeine...

I had to bump & edit this thread to put in a good word for propylhexedrine (Benzedrex). Man, this stuff is really good for being OTC (hell, it's good even compared to most illegal/prescription drugs). 3-4 hour energetic, euphoric high with little or no crash.

Oh, and for goodness' sake, don't eat the cotton. Break open the inhaler, pull out the cotton stick, drop it in one of those little containers of lemon juice (the $1 ones you can buy in grocery stores), leave it overnight, pull the cotton out in the morning and voila -- lemon energy drink. Based on subjective effects, this extracts at least 75-80% of the drug, and you don't have to eat cotton (very bad for you).

 

[SKL]

There's also nutmeg.

I tried nutmeg a long time ago. I was young and stupid but it was actually kinda fun. Unpleasant body load / fuzzy feeling hangover, but kind of fun. Dreamy, erotic, spaced out. Worth it? Probably not. "Underrated" would be perhaps too strong a word, as I'm in no rush to try it again, LOL.

 

[TDogUSA]

Ive been to grocery stores looking for bulk poppy seeds but can only find the ones in the spice aisle, which are worthless. any suggestions on where i can find bulk poppy seeds? like store names? and also, when buying poppy pods, how will i know if they are the right kind? and what is a craft shop? is that like the flower shops that are outside?

 

[SKL]

Ive been to grocery stores looking for bulk poppy seeds but can only find the ones in the spice aisle, which are worthless. any suggestions on where i can find bulk poppy seeds? like store names? and also, when buying poppy pods, how will i know if they are the right kind? and what is a craft shop? is that like the flower shops that are outside?

Poppy pods are much, much better than poppy seeds for making tea. They are readily available for decorative purposes, online and in the real world.

 

[TDogUSA]

pods

Poppy pods are much, much better than poppy seeds for making tea. They are readily available for decorative purposes, online and in the real world.

at what type of places in the "real world" can i find poppy pods?

 

[BodhiSvaha33]

I have never seen a dried poppy pod for sale that was not P. somniferum, which is the "right" kind. That doesn't mean there aren't any out there, but they must be rare. Pods can be purchased at craft stores or, more commonly and easily, through mail order. A certain popular internet auction site has no shortage of them.

I second the idea of using pods instead of seeds. The potency of seeds is too highly variable.

 

[Institutionalizer]

booze: 10/10
it makes an ass out of you, but you still love every second of the high.

 

[malfunkshun]

Don't waste your time with seeds, you'll get way better results with pods.

Most seeds these days are "washed" to prevent abuse anyway.

edit: then again, if you're brand new to opiates you might want to start with seeds, or maybe 1 or 2 large pods. I've given my opiate-free girlfriend a tea made of 6 large pods that had her vomiting for hours and gasping for breath at one point.

Blew my mind, but hey...it happened. And yes, I felt like an asshole

seeds aren't washed. thats a myth. good seeds come from scored pods, bunk seeds come from unscored pods. scored pods being those harvested for the opium for legal or illegal use, unscored pods being seeds that are taken out of pods that are dried first, or just thrown away because they are only grown for the seed market.

and from my experience, i have always gotten better highs from good seeds than any pod variety. so if you manage to get good seeds, you are NOT WASTING YOUR TIME. and they're easier to get than pods, that is, if you know of a good source. lately it has been really hard to get good seeds anymore.

 

[malfunkshun]

Poppy pods are much, much better than poppy seeds for making tea. They are readily available for decorative purposes, online and in the real world.

how many times do i gotta say this? poppy seeds, if you get potent ones are just as good or better than pods for a great high. the preperation method is a bit of a hassle is the only thing, but you don't have to boil anything or use heat at all.

if you are gonna find good seeds, they will be in the bulk food section of the grocery store.

 

[TDogUSA]

im guessing if your on suboxone it would be pointless to drink poppy pod tea right?

 

[center]

nitrous.

 

[garuda]

im guessing if your on suboxone it would be pointless to drink poppy pod tea right?

Absolutely, there is no way in hell you'd break through the sub unless you did some insane hundred pod extract or something.

 

[Feels]

Nutmeg- 5/10 (the epitome of boredom, not really worth it)
Salvia- 10/10 (Not to be taken lightly, but it is amazing that a substance so powerful is still legal in most of the US)
Diphenhydramine- 3/10 (Dumb, boring, made me tired and delusional, at high doses of course. Low-dose, it's a good sleep-aid)
Dimenhydrinate- 2/10 (Maybe dumber than Benadryl, can't really tell the difference. Not recommended whatsoever)
Alcohol- 8/10 (It's not my favorite, but good for what it is, you know? Also, helps me come out of my shell and be more outgoing/social when I'm drunk)
DXM- 8/10 (Need further experimentation, so far seems good for an OTC cough medicine. Weird and fun.)

Oh and what is this benzedrex (sp?) thing people are mentioning? Is that legal in the US at all? Sounds like amphetamines or something, can't believe thats legal in the states.
If codeine was OTC in the US I'd rate it highly as well, given you don't already have a tolerance to opiates, then you're fucked. It's the weakest opiate basically, but you can still enjoy it very much.

 

[rashandreflex]

I have encountered 2 grades if you will of poppy seed.
1. Most common grade, a pound washed and the wash ingested feels subjectively like 5mg of morphine, total waste not even worth bothering with.

2. Rare grade, a pound washed feels like 60-100mg of morphine depending on batch, wonderful energetic high.

P.S. late 2005 had some outrageously potent seeds on the bulk market.

this is very true. up through june of this year, i was ordering bulk poppy seeds online and fairly small amounts of seeds, beginning with maybe four ounces and ending at a pound, could get me pretty high, even after a fentanyl/AMF habit from dec 2006-feb 2007.

all of a sudden, though, a shipment arrived in late june that was weak as hell. i went into pretty bad withdrawal, and i certainly wasn't expecting it. i tried making tea with, like, 5 pounds of the seeds and got no relief at all.

i haven't tried to order them since, so i have no idea if there are any good ones out there anymore.