Rate the legal highs

[Kenaz]

Don't waste your time with seeds, you'll get way better results with pods.

Most seeds these days are "washed" to prevent abuse anyway.

edit: then again, if you're brand new to opiates you might want to start with seeds, or maybe 1 or 2 large pods. I've given my opiate-free girlfriend a tea made of 6 large pods that had her vomiting for hours and gasping for breath at one point.

Blew my mind, but hey...it happened. And yes, I felt like an asshole

My first (to date only) experiment with pods involved 10 mammoth giganteums, which when ground produced 63g. of powder. I put that in 2 liters of water with the juice of three lemons: the result tasted like aspirin and had the kick of a Missouri mule. 4 oz. (125ml) was more than enough to give me and another person with no tolerance a warm, fuzzy, pin-eyed glow; 8 oz. had me nodding and 12 oz. left me feeling the effects for almost 36 hours. (Seeing as how I had to work for 8 of those hours, this was something less than ideal).

 

[CloudyHazeD]

63 gram brew of poppy pod is pretty fucking massive :D

 

[Kenaz]

Your other post on this inspired me to try kanna again, but if anything it was even worse this time. Either my brain chemistry doesn't like the stuff, or it has an interaction with one of the several nootropics I take daily (piracetam, hydergine, adrafinil).

I've found Kanna doesn't play well with coffee: when I combine the two, I end up shaky and nauseated. It could well have some kind of similar interactions with nootropics.

 

[garuda]

I have encountered 2 grades if you will of poppy seed.
1. Most common grade, a pound washed and the wash ingested feels subjectively like 5mg of morphine, total waste not even worth bothering with.

2. Rare grade, a pound washed feels like 60-100mg of morphine depending on batch, wonderful energetic high.

The 2nd kind varies from batch to batch, but it is always either weak to the point of being useless or extremely potent. I would never consume more then the wash of a half pound. I feel pretty confident in saying no one is washing poppy seeds before they get to consumers, weak ones never had anything on them to begin with.

P.S. late 2005 had some outrageously potent seeds on the bulk market.

 

[Kenaz]

63 gram brew of poppy pod is pretty fucking massive :D

Most people describe their brews by pods: since I have a scale handy (thanks to my reptile hobby), it's easy for me to get a gram measurement. That provides more control over the final outcome: pods can vary massively by size and weight.

We didn't eat the grounds and tried to minimize consumption of the sediment; I'm quite glad we did, given how powerful the tea was on its own.

 

[CloudyHazeD]

A usual pod tea for me is about 30grams with antihistamine potentiators.

If I'm feeling saucey, 60grams.

I wish more people would go by weight. As you said, Kanaz, the pods can vary in size so greatly.

That makes any per pod dosing advice pretty useless.......

 

[e12dsm]

what about salvia? that stuff can get pretty nutty...dont like it tho, but its def legal.

 

[CloudyHazeD]

For what salvia is perported to do, I give her a 10/10. As for its recreational value, more of 6/10.

 

[otb01]

God, I need to get in a state where I can remember everything and then comment in this thread!

 

[Kenaz]

A usual pod tea for me is about 30grams with antihistamine potentiators.

If I'm feeling saucey, 60grams.

I wish more people would go by weight. As you said, Kanaz, the pods can vary in size so greatly.

That makes any per pod dosing advice pretty useless.......

Are you drinking all that tea at one sitting by yourself? In our case the tea worked out, more or less, to 1oz. tea/gram of pod material. My first dose was 8 oz (8g material): this had me nodding like de Quincey. More than that increased the upset stomach but didn't really increase the euphoria - and the effects lingered so long that it became inconvenient. 4oz. (4g) was more than enough to produce a nice warm glow, although not enough to really induce good hypnagogic states ("nods"). I suspect 30g would have sent me to the ER, never mind 60.

 

[brutus]

The only legal high that I actually enjoy is Nitrous.

 

[eon_blue]

For what salvia is perported to do, I give her a 10/10. As for its recreational value, more of 6/10.

Yeah, the effect of salvia I would definitley rate at 10/10 but as far as enjoying it goes....1/10.

So far as my experience goes, that is.

 

[garuda]

Oh and just for informations sake poppy pod and seed tea is technically illegal, its just not enforced.

Poppy pods are flat out illegal, they are poppy straw and schedule 2 along with morphine and oxycodone.
Poppy seeds are specifically legal, but once you wash them that "tea" is illegal.

Doesn't matter if the source is legal, and kind of extract containing morphine and other C2 substances is not.

Now realistically I know its defacto legal activity as you couldn't get busted for it, just wanted the record set straight

 

[CloudyHazeD]

Are you drinking all that tea at one sitting by yourself? In our case the tea worked out, more or less, to 1oz. tea/gram of pod material. My first dose was 8 oz (8g material): this had me nodding like de Quincey. More than that increased the upset stomach but didn't really increase the euphoria - and the effects lingered so long that it became inconvenient. 4oz. (4g) was more than enough to produce a nice warm glow, although not enough to really induce good hypnagogic states ("nods"). I suspect 30g would have sent me to the ER, never mind 60.

It is worth noting I am more than a bit of an opiod hard head. With zero tolerance I suppose 15 grams a decent dose, but weak nods.

Garuda: VERY good point

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

I like the high of opiates but if you can't inject it then I don't care.

Maybe one day I'll try it, but sounds like a pain to prepare too. I like how much more convenient IV is compared to smoking, snorting, and oral.

 

[SonOF]

I think poppy tea is a shitty buzz and a waste of time, but that may be because I have a high opiate tolerance.

I would say the two legal highs I enjoy are alcohol and DXM. If you are one of the people like myself that don't experience too many negative effects of DXM, it is a very interesting high; often makes you think, "Wow, I just got a drug this potent at a grocery store?"

Forgot to add, nitrous is good on a very rare occasion.

 

[Broshious]

I think poppy tea is a shitty buzz and a waste of time, but that may be because I have a high opiate tolerance.

I would say the two legal highs I enjoy are alcohol and DXM. If you are one of the people like myself that don't experience too many negative effects of DXM, it is a very interesting high; often makes you think, "Wow, I just got a drug this potent at a grocery store?"

Forgot to add, nitrous is good on a very rare occasion.

Propylhexedrine makes me say that. It's crazy strong for being available everywhere.

 

[joeldatroll]

Meh, I got excited about the poppy seed tea but I went to the store and 1.5 ounces of seeds was like 6 bucks. And from what I hear in this thread, seed tea isn't really that good. I wish I knew where to get some pills.

 

[burn007]

Salvia all the way. first time scared the shit out of me but the second time was "OMG WTF". good times.

 

[eon_blue]

Meh, I got excited about the poppy seed tea but I went to the store and 1.5 ounces of seeds was like 6 bucks. And from what I hear in this thread, seed tea isn't really that good. I wish I knew where to get some pills.

I hate to turn this into another PPT thread, but if you're referring to those little jars of seeds that grocery stores sell in the spices isle, don't waste your time or money. Those are washed and won't give you any results.