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"rarity" of 4-methylaminorex (Ice)

shneed

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I have bought what was sold to me as meth on numerous occasions. The first sack I ever bought was a half gram of what the dealer called "ice". I just figued he meant high quality meth though. Well after smoking it I felt great, but not the rushy amphetamine feeling you get from d-amphetamine. But I just assumed it was meth because I didn't know what to expect. I bought a few more sacks and had a good time with those, except I was curious about the long duration and lack of instant rush from smoking. After more experience I learned that the first few times I bought "meth" it was actually 4-methylaminorex (ice). Since then, between two different dealers, about half the time I got 4-mar (much to my disliking as it's only good the first few times) and half the time I would get high quality methamphetamine. Now the thing is that 4-mar is supposedly extremely rare, but I'm beginning to doubt that. I've been wondering how much shit is sold as "ice, glass" or even meth but is really 4-mar. For an inexperienced user it could be very hard to tell the difference between the two, and in the beginning I just assumed it was different quality meth each time. Now my question is, do you think that 4-mar is really that rare? Or just virtually unknown in the drug scene because it's just passed off as meth. I think I also heard that the synthesis of 4-methylaminorex is quite easy which would support my theory, correct me if I'm wrong. Any input?
 
ONE synth of 4-MAR is extremely easy (less than an hour reaction time and high yielding), but the reagents are difficult to obtain. PPA, the main precursor, is not available in the US anymore (as of summer 2000 or 2001 I believe). Another reagent is very toxic and cannot be acquired easily.
That said, I have heard of others who come across 4-MAR often, so I don't believe that you are an exception. I've conluded that like so many things, the availability varies geographically. It's certainly not the rarest thing in the world, but it's rarer than meth (in general) for sure.
 
I can tell you for absolute sure that 4-mar is here in my town big time. I cant even find meth but this imitation shit is everywhere. Im sorry I dont like 4-mar there is no rush and no real euphoria it sucks. Anyway meth is harder to get here than 4-mar.
 
Ya, 4-mar makes me feel like shit the following 2 days, I need some real meth. Does anyone have any ways of telling the difference between the two visually? I know that 4-mar crystaks are usually longer and skinnier and a little opaque, where has meth is clear. But I have gotten good meth that doesn't lok perfectly clear.
 
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