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Rarest drugs you've done?

4DQSAR said:
Actually, methaqualone is just as capable of forming physical dependence as the barbiturates it was meant to replace. Just like barbitutates, users develop tolerance to the effects of methaqualone but not to it'a other activities. I understand methaqualone overdose can produce seizures but more often people would fall asleep and then choke on their own vomit. But that was mosty consuming the drug orally.

It's always it's HOW the drug is used and the format(s) it's sold in.

I note Mandrax sells for between £1.30 to £3.30 per pill (based on recent UN figures and today's exchange rate). Now that sounds cheap but I'm not sure about average wage in SA.
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Respect to reply but when I was talking straight addiction wise, no. Cause it mostly used as a party or come down drug hence the least amount getting addicted, not saying you get addicted like any barb and as you explained the ( scientific difficult part :😜) lol just love it about your replies FYI. Anyhow yeah, so yeah addiction is very low except for the prison scene and that's something I don't feel comfortable talking about.

But overall good points and all I can say is to everyone, get fucking " wolf of Wallstreet " out your head.. it's not the same. Even the way he used it in the movie, anyone that knows how that shit fucm you really up, you ain't running billions dollars business on that shit...

Maybe as one of few or maybe only S.A. on here, yeah I get irritated everytime I see I thread with the words qualudes and kak. It's boring for me and mostly why I don't respond honestly and as I mod I know that's not cool but guys. Honestly, you not missing anything...
 
Oh and once I had pharma grade H, the real deal that comes in amps of 20-50mg dosage per 1-2ml amps and the rest was 10ml vials. Anyhow mu 1st shot of pure diacetylmorphine.

Obviously in the hospital but yeah think tht also qualifies as a rare drug, purity wise
 
SuperPsych said:
Just remembered one that I really enjoyed that wasn't on the scene for very long. 5-Methyl-Ethylone. It was very enjoyable. It was like a very light roll. Almost felt like methylone but far less pushy and stimulating. Music sounded great and I felt perfectly at peace washing dishes and chatting with my GF at the time while she was in the dining room drawing
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How was 5-Methyl-Ethylone visual wise? I remember reading some reports stating it felt more psychedelic than both MDMA and MDA in high doses
 
Coffeeshroom said:
Oh and once I had pharma grade H, the real deal that comes in amps of 20-50mg dosage per 1-2ml amps and the rest was 10ml vials. Anyhow mu 1st shot of pure diacetylmorphine.

Obviously in the hospital but yeah think tht also qualifies as a rare drug, purity wise
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Addiction is a behavioral issue, dependence is a body chemistry issue.

Funny thing - just occassionally 'dry amps' of medical diamorphine turn up on UK streets but here is the made thing - they sell for less that the same amount of street H. Now much, £7 for a 30mg amp (back when I mentioned this, UK H was much less pure). I've asked a couple of people why that is and the answer is always the same and is along the lines of pure diamorphine is 'too clean, too subtle, lacks warmth', Now I don't use pins but there was all time served junkies who had tried a lot of stuff.

Any comment on that?
 
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4DQSAR said:
Addiction is a behavioral issue, dependence is a body chemistry issue.

Funny thing - just occassionally 'dry amps' of medical diamorphine turn up on UK streets but here is the made thing - they sell for less that the same amount of street H. Now much, £7 for a 3mg amp (back when I mentioned this, UK H was much less pure). I've asked a couple of people why that is and the answer is always the same and is along the lines of pure diamorphine is 'too clean, too subtle, lacks warmth', Now I don't use pins but there was all time served junkies who had tried a lot of stuff.

Any comment on that?
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Only comment I got on that is maybe cause they been shooting stepped on shit and most probably fent and nitrazines and such. But I promise you, nothing as warm and sedating and feeling like you laying a warm pool of water and even get bellringer so to speak, yeah that's what the real deal did to me, only complaint was the trillion of ants that invaded my underskin and drove me crazy for a few seconds 🤣🤣🤣 but yeah that's the best answer I can give for the rxp other had.
 
TheLightBringer said:
How was 5-Methyl-Ethylone visual wise? I remember reading some reports stating it felt more psychedelic than both MDMA and MDA in high doses
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I don't remember noticing much of a visual aspect outside of maybe some color and vision enhancement. I didn't really push the dose very high. I did have a bit of a conspiracy theory. It was available for a seemingly such short amount of time and was pulled from the market before it had the chance to become popular. At the time I thought that the people who had it synthed did that on purpose so that it wouldn't become illegal, as I felt like it was just as good as methylone in a lot of ways. I still wouldn't be surprised if it was true
 
4DQSAR said:
Addiction is a behavioral issue, dependence is a body chemistry issue.

Funny thing - just occassionally 'dry amps' of medical diamorphine turn up on UK streets but here is the made thing - they sell for less that the same amount of street H. Now much, £7 for a 3mg amp (back when I mentioned this, UK H was much less pure). I've asked a couple of people why that is and the answer is always the same and is along the lines of pure diamorphine is 'too clean, too subtle, lacks warmth', Now I don't use pins but there was all time served junkies who had tried a lot of stuff.

Any comment on that?
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I reckon that (years ago and dunno really now) in UK it's either brown sugar or #3 grey heroin. In that kind of smack you get leftovers of other opiates like codeine and morphine (I think), that might add up to the rush and high. Not only in UK but in Western Europe people tend to prefer brown sugar (base) than #4 (hydrochloride) too. Also seen addicts shoot brown first without citric acid getting a rush, then cook it to get another rush. Cuts might be active and a factor as well. So I think people got addicted to that mixture and when they got actual pure diamorphine, well it lacks something.
Just a thought. I am not entirely sure about what I am saying but I hope I make sense.

It's like this thing in US people prefering BTH than #4 (before fent), I am pretty sure I read something about that ?

I never had dry amps but I used plenty of brown and pins in the past. Even at the source the brown sugar is cut 10-20 percent with caffeine mostly and/or paracetamol, so it runs better on foil.

I would totally relapse for this UK pharma gear lol.

But yeah @Coffeeshroom, pharma diamorphine, that's definitely a rare drug ! :LOL:and I agree with you about the Wolf of wall street thing, it's totally romanticized .
You sound like you got some experience with buttons, do you know if some actively inject it in SA ?

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KetWise said:
I reckon that (years ago and dunno really now) in UK it's either brown sugar or #3 grey heroin. In that kind of smack you get leftovers of other opiates like codeine and morphine (I think), that might add up to the rush and high. Not only in UK but in Western Europe people tend to prefer brown sugar (base) than #4 (hydrochloride) too. Also seen addicts shoot brown first without citric acid getting a rush, then cook it to get another rush. Cuts might be active and a factor as well. So I think people got addicted to that mixture and when they got actual pure diamorphine, well it lacks something.
Just a thought. I am not entirely sure about what I am saying but I hope I make sense.

It's like this thing in US people prefering BTH than #4 (before fent), I am pretty sure I read something about that ?

I never had dry amps but I used plenty of brown and pins in the past. Even at the source the brown sugar is cut 10-20 percent with caffeine mostly and/or paracetamol, so it runs better on foil.

I would totally relapse for this UK pharma gear lol.

But yeah @Coffeeshroom, pharma diamorphine, that's definitely a rare drug ! :LOL:and I agree with you about the Wolf of wall street thing, it's totally romanticized .
You sound like you got some experience with buttons, do you know if some actively inject it in SA ?

Back on topic
25B-NBOME, 25C-NBOME, 2cb, 25i, LSA, 2010 mephedrone, eutylone, etizolam, clonazolam, flunitrazolam, flualprazolam, flubromazolam, trihexyphenidyl
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Lol yeah got lots of exp with buttons but never came across a fool stupid enough to shoot it or maybe fucking sober enough 🤣 😂 I have smoked it plenty of times. But yeah never took it orally and o doubt you will have the effect as the movie romanticized, as you mention
 
I'm just waiting for someone to turn up claiming they have injected nitrous oxide. I suppose as elevated pressures it MAY be possible.

But dying from the bends brought on from nitrous use would win a spectacular Darwin Award.
 
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1-Aleph or whatever it was in the fucking Pi/TiKHal books. Tried it. Was fun.

And authentic quaaludes.
 
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Coffeeshroom said:
Sorry slight high jack, but what doses do you consider mdma to become.e psychedelic?
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Late response but id say MDMA starts getting psychedelic at around 400mg and onward, thats usually when Ive gotten both CEVs and OEVs in the past albeit mild compared to other psychs.
MDMA is a weird one though cuz once you push the dosages even higher, sure you will get more 5HT2A-agonist-esque visuals but also go full on psychotic which kinda ruins it.
 
TheLightBringer said:
MDMA is a weird one though cuz once you push the dosages even higher, sure you will get more 5HT2A-agonist-esque visuals but also go full on psychotic which kinda ruins it.
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Yeah I've definitely witnessed MDMA trigger an amphetamine-induced psychosis more than once. Most psychoses involve dopamine dysfunction, and although MDMA's effects are primarily serotonergic, there is still plenty of dopaminergic and noradrenergic activity to set off these kinds of effects and reactions in some users. Then add to it MDx's proclivity for inducing full-on hallucinations in high dose, and it's not hard to see why MDMA is sometimes classified as psychedelic. Psychedelia isn't always all about visuals. There's a particular hypnosis, a certain living in the present moment, and a sense of connectedness that makes these compounds so special in so many unique, human ways.

There's a theory that, MDMA's visual activity actually in part comes from MDA, because a certain portion of MDMA—maybe 5 - 15%—of MDMA demethylates into MDA during first-pass metabolism. I've taken large doses of both MDMA and especially MDA before and straight up had conversations with people who were not present at all that evening. Powerful stuff.
 
Qualuudes (Methaqualone). There was a dark net vendor selling it wayyy back in the Agora Marketplace days. It came in a slightly off white, egshell powder. I weighed it out, emptied a multivitamin, and filled it up in the gel capsule. It felt kinda like a high dose of Pregablin but with a more intense body buzz. Could not physically stand up without busting my ass
 
Some of the compounds mentioned here are extremely rare, and it's important to remember that just because something is hard to find doesn't mean it's safe. Always do thorough research and test substances carefully; consider avoiding compounds that have little documented history. It's better to stay safe than take unnecessary risks.
 
Musuka said:
DPT.A memorable bad trip🤮
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My DPT trip wasn't so impressive.

Used DPT during chemsex with a friend.

Everything was covered in psychedelic wallpaper which included Eldar Harlequins* and hints of the godess Kali (her more benevolent looking side. Not that my knowledge goes any further than Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom).

*). The Netherlands we have a St. Nicholas Eve song that has the line (translated into English) "Oh how wonderful it would be to play with that colorful (toy)harlequin!"
In my trip it was more "Oh how gruesome it would be if the harlequin played with me!"

Existential horror (but not very scary).

A paranoid person is someone who understands a little of what's going on.
 
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