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deficiT said:
Doctors use "legal requirements" as an excuse to couch a lot of their annoying behavior.

They'll say if they don't report something or do some certain things, they'll get sued or lose their license.

In a lot of cases, the problem is ultimately the fact that the government doesn't know how to run things and has ignorant laws, and so many doctors just go along with the requirements, regardless of potential health outcomes.
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Benzos absolutely have their place in medicine — especially for people dealing with severe anxiety, panic disorders, or PTSD. It’s insane how many doctors these days act like prescribing a benzo is handing someone a loaded gun, but they’ll shove an SSRI at you without a second thought, even if you’ve already tried five of them with no success.

What’s worse is that a lot of these decisions are based more on fear of liability or DEA scrutiny than what actually works for the patient. They’re not treating you — they’re treating their medical board, their insurance policy, and their legal exposure.

Yes, benzos need to be prescribed carefully. But the current stigma is so overblown that people who genuinely need them are being left to suffer or labeled as “drug-seeking” just for asking for something that works.

At the end of the day, it should be about finding what works best for each patient, not just what keeps the doctor’s license safest.
 
pixies+ said:
in my experience, doctors do not enjoy other doctors calling them out of the blue to tell them how to be a doctor.
i hope your doc wasn’t as polite as you.

2mg clonaz for a decade without knowing a damn thing about you… she’s basically playing a game of tattletale? how bizarre.
she’s definitely the kind of cunt that likes to be a cunt because of the abbreviation in front of her name.
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Right? Like clearly my doctor had me on Klonopin for a reason — not just for fun. We had a long-standing, trusted relationship, and he knew my full history. Meanwhile, this random lady who didn’t even know me felt entitled to pick up the phone and basically say, “Take him off it.” No context, no background, just ego.

It’s wild how some providers think their degree gives them the right to override someone else’s care without even bothering to ask what’s going on. That’s not medicine — that’s self-righteous interference. If anything, it just shows how broken and judgmental the system’s become.
 
I was put on a high dose of lexapro for a couple of years as a teenager. Shit ruined my ability to deal with any serious emotions as bad or worse than any recreational drug. It made my fuse longer, but when I did get mad, it'd be a massive overreaction. It was harder to make me sad, but when it all caught up with me, straight to suicidal depression. This lasted years after stopping. I never learned any coping skills too because I spent 80% of my time as a numb zombie during my formative years.

I also feel like the withdrawals were about as bad as opiate withdrawals in terms of the mental aspect.

SSRIs, at least for me, are just addiction without the fun before the fall.
 
deficiT said:
That doctor sounds like a Karen. Doing just a little bit too much.

I've dealt with the same things and share your frustration. You go in to the hospital for one thing or another, and all of a sudden the emergency doctor wants to start telling you how to live your life and take care of your health, without an adequate understanding of the full context.

Benzos are legitimately dangerous and really should be used as a last measure, but if you personally understand the risks, have tried other meds, and need benzos, thats your decision to make, not some busybody doctor.
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Exactly! It’s always the same script — “Benzos are bad, let’s put you on Zoloft instead.” Like… you don’t even know me, my history, what I’ve tried, or what actually works for me. Just blind protocol over personalized care.

Klonopin has probably kept me more stable and functioning than half the SSRIs they push like candy. But instead of listening, they treat you like a walking liability. It’s frustrating as hell when doctors ignore lived experience just to follow a one-size-fits-all rulebook.
 
SotPoker1012 said:
I was put on a high dose of lexapro for a couple of years as a teenager. Shit ruined my ability to deal with any serious emotions as bad or worse than any recreational drug. It made my fuse longer, but when I did get mad, it'd be a massive overreaction. It was harder to make me sad, but when it all caught up with me, straight to suicidal depression. This lasted years after stopping. I never learned any coping skills too because I spent 80% of my time as a numb zombie during my formative years.

I also feel like the withdrawals were about as bad as opiate withdrawals in terms of the mental aspect.

SSRIs, at least for me, are just addiction without the fun before the fall.
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I’m not saying benzos are for everyone — but for some of us, they’re the only thing keeping us sane and functional. Panic attacks, PTSD, crippling anxiety… that’s real, and it doesn’t wait around for your SSRI to maybe kick in six weeks later. Benzos work now. That’s the difference between surviving and spiraling for a lot of us.

What pisses me off is how quick doctors are to throw SSRIs at teenagers like it’s candy — no real discussion, no long-term plan, just “here, take this.” Then they act shocked when those same kids grow up emotionally numb, detached, or suicidal. But bring up benzos for someone who actually needs them? Suddenly you’re a drug seeker.

It’s not about what helps anymore — it’s about what’s politically correct and liability-free. And patients are the ones getting screwed because of it.
 
gymguy30 said:
I’m not saying benzos are for everyone — but for some of us, they’re the only thing keeping us sane and functional. Panic attacks, PTSD, crippling anxiety… that’s real, and it doesn’t wait around for your SSRI to maybe kick in six weeks later. Benzos work now. That’s the difference between surviving and spiraling for a lot of us.

What pisses me off is how quick doctors are to throw SSRIs at teenagers like it’s candy — no real discussion, no long-term plan, just “here, take this.” Then they act shocked when those same kids grow up emotionally numb, detached, or suicidal. But bring up benzos for someone who actually needs them? Suddenly you’re a drug seeker.

It’s not about what helps anymore — it’s about what’s politically correct and liability-free. And patients are the ones getting screwed because of it.
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Yeah, I was put on them because I lost both of my parents back to back as a teenager. Rather than allow me to go through the process of grieving, learning to cope with loss and instability in life, I was drugged into a bare minimum of functionality. Any teenager is going to be mentally fucked for a while after that, it's normal. I wasn't actively suicidal, just anxious and depressed. I'm also autistic and having my whole life uprooted was incredibly traumatic, grief over parents aside. Maybe I should've been allowed to feel however I felt and given time to figure things out, perhaps with a talk therapist to help - though I've never been able to open up to authority figures so that may not have helped much. Plus, teenage years are when people first face some of the harsher realities of life, and that's a good head start on learning to cope that I was never allowed.

and yeah, benzos just work period. They carry risks, I don't think they should be the only option people explore, but at least they actually accomplish their purpose neatly and cleanly. With responsible dosing and tapering, it's possible to get off with minimal withdrawals too.
 
SotPoker1012 said:
Yeah, I was put on them because I lost both of my parents back to back as a teenager. Rather than allow me to go through the process of grieving, learning to cope with loss and instability in life, I was drugged into a bare minimum of functionality. Any teenager is going to be mentally fucked for a while after that, it's normal. I wasn't actively suicidal, just anxious and depressed. I'm also autistic and having my whole life uprooted was incredibly traumatic, grief over parents aside. Maybe I should've been allowed to feel however I felt and given time to figure things out, perhaps with a talk therapist to help - though I've never been able to open up to authority figures so that may not have helped much. Plus, teenage years are when people first face some of the harsher realities of life, and that's a good head start on learning to cope that I was never allowed.

and yeah, benzos just work period. They carry risks, I don't think they should be the only option people explore, but at least they actually accomplish their purpose neatly and cleanly. With responsible dosing and tapering, it's possible to get off with minimal withdrawals too.
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Man, I hate that you had to endure what you went through. Losing both parents back-to-back at that age… that’s pain most people will never understand. I’m truly sorry, brother. I didn’t go through the same thing, but I had a rough childhood too — the kind that left me with PTSD, GAD, severe panic attacks, and a handful of other mental health issues I still deal with today. Trauma is trauma, and it sticks with you.

And what really gets me is how these new-age doctors act like benzos are pure evil and refuse to prescribe them at all. It’s ridiculous. They work. That’s been proven for decades. For people like us who’ve tried everything else — SSRIs, therapy, lifestyle changes — sometimes benzos are the only thing that truly quiets the storm.

My doctor now doesn’t mess around either. He drug tests every single month — and if you fail, it’s a big problem. He’s strict, but he actually listens and understands that not everyone fits into the same mold. He knows that with the right monitoring and responsibility, benzos can be used safely and effectively.

We need more doctors like that. Ones who don’t automatically assume you’re a risk just because you need real help.
 
I was also put on Xanax and temazepam at a young age - 20. Kinda have the same problem. Never really dealt with emotions… I’d just put myself into a place of not being able to feel one way or the other. Didn’t help me in the long run… but the addict in me says otherwise. I’m still on a low dose of diazepam 18 years later. It’s not much, but I’ll take it.
 
pixies+ said:
I was also put on Xanax and temazepam at a young age - 20. Kinda have the same problem. Never really dealt with emotions… I’d just put myself into a place of not being able to feel one way or the other. Didn’t help me in the long run… but the addict in me says otherwise. I’m still on a low dose of diazepam 18 years later. It’s not much, but I’ll take it.
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I totally get where you’re coming from — benzos at a young age can absolutely stunt emotional growth if there’s no support or guidance alongside them. Numbing out becomes the default, and you never really learn how to process things. That’s a real issue.

That said, not everyone ends up in the same boat. For some of us, benzos weren’t about numbing — they were about surviving. When you’re having daily panic attacks or spiraling into dissociation, something that gives you even a little peace is a lifeline.

And hey, 18 years later, you’re still functioning on a low dose of diazepam — that says a lot. The addict in you may have thoughts, but the stable version of you clearly found something that works. It’s not ideal for everyone, but for some of us, it’s the only thing keeping the wheels on.
 
Fire&Water said:
The right type benzo'
can be a great reset
when used occasionally
hope you manage and use wisely
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Klonopin has been a lifesaver for me — no doubt about it. I’ve tried just about every benzo over the past 10 years. Xanax hit too hard and wore off too fast, leaving me in constant interdose withdrawal. Valium didn’t help my anxiety much and just made me groggy. But Klonopin? It’s the only one that actually worked — smooth, long-lasting, and doesn’t sedate me.

After everything I’ve been through — especially the trauma I survived growing up — this isn’t about escaping or avoiding emotions. It’s about functioning. It’s about being able to breathe, go to work, show up for my life, and not live in constant fight-or-flight.

People who haven’t lived it won’t get it — and that’s fine. But for me, Klonopin gave me my life back. Plain and simple.
 
I understand where you’re coming from completely. For some… it’s about survival. And some things just work.
 
SotPoker1012 said:
Yeah, I was put on them because I lost both of my parents back to back as a teenager. Rather than allow me to go through the process of grieving, learning to cope with loss and instability in life, I was drugged into a bare minimum of functionality. Any teenager is going to be mentally fucked for a while after that, it's normal. I wasn't actively suicidal, just anxious and depressed. I'm also autistic and having my whole life uprooted was incredibly traumatic, grief over parents aside. Maybe I should've been allowed to feel however I felt and given time to figure things out, perhaps with a talk therapist to help - though I've never been able to open up to authority figures so that may not have helped much. Plus, teenage years are when people first face some of the harsher realities of life, and that's a good head start on learning to cope that I was never allowed.
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Similar scenario happening to millions 100% - completely insane and massively counterproductive over-medication to "treat" absolutely 'normal' human responses to challenging scenarios, with shit drugs that we don't even fully understand how they "work" to boot.
 
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