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Sammy: 500ug was about twice wot was intended at said event but security came over to check out Carsick's nitrous cracker (and backpack full o' crackees) to make sure he wasn't muscling in on their balloon biznizz just as I was dosing. Ended up losing a 200ug tab in the mire underfoot and then forgot quite how many I'd actually munched just prior to that so munched an extra just in case. Didn't take long to work out whether twas a 300 or 500 mic kinda night I must say :D

Was initially a tad nervy given the relatively unfamiliar surroundings, securicunt eyeballings and the like but turned out to be a total winner of a night. Certain EADDers helped hugely <3 And one or two NASANADNADSANDNADS folks who happened to be in the vicinity with perfectly-timed ket-bullets helped even hugelier <3 Combined with the essential TG component and the occasional Gertcha! moment all was perfect. Aside from the rather transparent weed-thieving prettygals convinced that no man so self-absorbed with entwining his multi-coloured, transdimensional balls of psychewool would notice blatant theft of weed whilst scavving a fag anyway. Forgive with a vaguegrin at the time, curse 'em later :!
 
I have a fuck load of bupe and all for free. I don't do opiates or blues generally, only to help me sleep occasionally. [edit] etiz, but I don't have any of that atm ... and zopiclone for sleep occasionally, although heavy doses of melatonin normally do the job. and I only ever have a sleep problem after stim abuse. sleep can normally be induced by eating a fuckton of sugary carbs

what am i missing with bupe? I like the sound of it if it's an antidepressant & will serve as a sleep agent at the same time. but that sounds like it'll be a total waste. not that it'd be wasted per se since it's free i guess.

how much should i be taking to help get me to sleep after taking phet?
 
Bupe's lovely, but with no tolerance whatsoever even 1mg might be enough to get you puking. Then again it might not, but you shouldn't really go over that for a first time, and keep other depressants out of the mix as much as possible.

It won't immediately induce sleep - it'll take a while before you start to nod, and even then you might not sleep. The effects an last for aaaaages too. Which is both good and bad, depending on what you're doing the following day.

Bear in mind the addiction potential, which is very real. It's lovely though, and I'm extremely jealous.
 
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Marmz: Bupe is one of the stimulating opies. Ime, imo and all that. This is a profoundly Good Thing for many of us. But not for those wishing to sleep. I'd stick to benzos for post-stim sleepybyes meself. Morphine is pretty good for sleepytime on the opi-side o' things tho I suppose. And methadone but that lasts way too long to be much practical use for the non-regular. That and it tends to kill folk quite easily.

To be honest, if you have phet that requires anything to send you to sleep I am insanely envious cos I've not come across anything sold as phet that does anything but send me to sleep in the last few years :\

PS: If you aren't used to bupe and intend experimenting even a lil bit then read up on it cos it's bloody strong for those unfamiliar with poppy-product. 0.5-1mg should have you flying for a goodly while then dozing for a while longer... perhaps. Has been a while so get actual advice over mine for preference.
 
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I concur.

What is it about Brizzers and droogyfuntime? Pure win everytime <3
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Excellent! I think Brizzle just attracts the best people, hehe. It's certainly a drug-friendly city! Be lovely to see you - tempted to try to arrange a proper meet but I know if I announce as such it will never get off the ground ;)

I find bupe pretty stimulating too unless I mix it with something, it's a good functional opioid and it lasts well too. You can actually get stronger (or at least more rounded somehow) effects with lower doses as well - at 1mg or below (maybe 2mg) it has full agonst properties due to a metabolite, norbuprenorphine, where as at higher doses this doesn't come into play as much and you have to rely on the partial agonism of bupe itself. This doesn't seem to fit with everyone's experiences and when my tolerance is up I need a higher dose but in general less is more I find :) YMMV though - some people don't find it much fun at all and those on it for maintenance tend to find it very clear-headed.

Addiction is def a concern though, it lasts so long that taking it once a day is enough to result in physical dependency in not much time at all and it's functional-opioid state makes psychological addiction a real danger IME..
 
Addiction is kinda the point of bupe for me (but only really used it as a scag-replacement after the years upon years of fruitless, pointless and horribly destructive methadone "w/d" attempts). The duration is no joke tho. When tapering I could skip 3-4 days between doses before starting to cluck. That's a fuck of a long time in opitime. Methadone barely lasts 24h (but does have that intiguing for some lethality thang going for it amongst the opi-naieve perhaps).

Also agree on the less = more thang. I tapered down from 32mg/day to 0.2mg/day before going in to rehab (where they promptly dosed me with 32mg within minutes of arriving :\:(=D) and can honestly say that it got way more fun at sub-8mg doses. How that equates to recreational-only use I dunno but "less/more" probably covers it.
 
Hehe less/more is a good guideline, handy property for a drug to have!!

I almost think of it as two separate drugs, the one used for maintenance where as you say addiction is inevitable, and constant use the whole point really, and where it has a rep for being less druggy-feeling than methadone (how did you find it?) - and the recreational drug. Never really used it for long enough to think about it's antidepressant properties but it does sound like that is a big plus!

Eep 3-4 days is insanely long indeed..
 
Evening all, I've just drawn the curtains because my windows looked like big scary eyes of the night time. If that isn't a sign that I deserve another glass of wine I don't know what is. Hope all is well across the hills and vales of EADD! I may be about to pull a work all-nighter fuelled by Shitalin, Shiraz and the Velvet Underground (Loaded and the Closet tapes so far, the jangly end is frying my mind at the moment). Blessings be upon your houses.
 
^^ I'm a huge flag-waver for bupe > meth, Ms Eff. Take my biases as you will...

I was on/off/on/off/on... etc meth for the best part of a twelve(ish) year scag habit and I can honestly say all it ever did for me was increase my habit exponentially with the only conceivable benefit being either being on a big enough script to be worth flogging for bags or as emergency backup. Horrid stuff. I used to know folks who chose it over smack they got so addicted to the shit. Watching some poor meth zombie (and close friend at the time) shooting up half a litre of green meth syrup (using multiple 10ml barrels and a butterfly) three times a day just to avoid w/d is a sight I wish I could show all y'all thinking of going down that route :|

Never saw owt like that with bupe. Yes it may be pussy strength in some ways (cos you have to cut your smack/meth doses to the bone before starting on bupe to avoid the instaw/d effect from the freaky a/nt/agonist effect) but it is so superior as a maitanance drug it's unreal.

I'd say the same for recreational/occasional use too only with significantlt lower doses required on both sides.
 
Interesting, thanks Shams, that's the impression I have got from others too.. bupe certainly sounds like it has a lot of advantages over methadone. Eeep the idea of shooting deathadone syrup makes me cringe, what a horrible situation :(

Jancrow, good luck with your all nighter! I'm up later than intended but off to sleep soon I hope. If not I'm sure I'll be back on here :D
 
If only Barry's owner hadn't updated their firmware, I'd be able to point you in the direction of some seriously somnolent.... er... stuff.
 
Loulou! Lovely to see you in here :) I am still up, grrr... fucking insomnia. Not been over to BDD much this eve, EADD's been keeping me on my toes ;)

MSB some green would be wonderful ey? Dammit :|
 
It is tolerable, def. I'm cosy and warm and well-fed, even if I can't sleep ;)

Hope your night is going tolerably too!
 
It's not bad, I made a sensible decision to stop taking shitalin about three hours ago so it's rather fruity joint and more red wine time at the moment, got a big project on and I knew it was one of those things I'd do better at night, so here I am wiggin' out. You having a late one or are you winding down?
 
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