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I'll need to try one weekend or something when I'm not working I guess and see how it is. Then I'll know if I can get away with taking at work. I don't even know who they belong to and whether they're still being used. Should probably find that out before I nick them eh?
 
Well I took one of 100mg and i'll leave it at that for tonight. Told my mate to hold onto the rest, I hope they are not moorish !
Whats the half life like on these ?
Just to clarify, its ok to take with benzos, or not ?
(i dont have any benzos now but for future reference)
much obliged
 
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got some 60x salvia a mate gave me a few weeks ago.

I put it away, but it's been calling me this evening for some reason, might try it, can anything go horribly wrong?
 
^ Hehe. Was just talking about that in the Local Nutter thread. There's a vid of some fella smoking 60X just been posted - pretty much reflects my experience of it too. Only I stayed conscious and actually got to remember it all. *shudders* It's not gonna kill ya but unless you really <3 Salvia it's about as close to hell as it gets :D

As for going horribly wrong, it actually can do. Is the only drug I know of where you genuinely do have no control over what you do on it. You truly can do mad stuff like jumping through closed windows, walking into traffic, stabbing folk and the like. All three of those have been documented. Last time I did it I came round to find myself spinning manically along the wall and trying to open my front door. Given I apparently decided to strip nekkid whilst blacked out when it first kicked in I'm rather glad I came round when I did ;)

Slaughter: Benzos are no problem with trams. Some may even say it's better to take a benzo with 'em if using higher doses but have also heard they actually don't decrease the seizure risk one iota. Pretty sure I came across papers supporting both possibilities when I was researching such things 8)

Not that it matters really cos you shouldn't ever go near doses high enough to carry any real seizure risk. Benzos are a nice addition if you don't like the speediness though, I'd imagine.
 
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Well I took one of 100mg and i'll leave it at that for tonight. Told my mate to hold onto the rest, I hope they are not moorish !
Whats the half life like on these ?
Just to clarify, its ok to take with benzos, or not ?
(i dont have any benzos now but for future reference)
much obliged

benzos and trams are an amazing and safe combo, but 100mg? thats like a cup of coffee if that, i know HR and all that, but next time start with 100mg, but bump up to at least 200mg within the hour to get a feel for the drug, with benzos even better (and safer tbh, it does lower the serizure risk, but under 400mg in 24 hours the risk of having a seizure is like 1 in a billion)
 
I have to disagree with 100mg being like a cup of coffee. For some, for sure. But not for all. Have known folks who find 200mg to be way too strong with no tolerance too. And those that would barely notice 200mg even with no tolerance. Huge variations from one person to the next with trams. I'd definitely not recommend 200mg straight off, myself. Not gonna kill ya or owt but can definitely make you feel like utter crap for a day or so.

Also, the evidence for whether or not benzos actually reduce the seizure risk is divided. Pretty sure I read at least one paper suggesting they can actually increase the seizure risk slightly in combination with trams. Don't recall which benzo was involved in the study offhand but think it was diaz surprisingly enough. Doubt it makes much difference one way or the other, to be honest, but I definitely wouldn't say it was a guaranteed 100% safe combo. 99% safe through probably. Folks have had seizures on just 100mg of tramadol too. Very rare to seize, for sure, but nowhere near as rare as 1 in a billion. Check the tramadol megathread in BDD for tales from BLers it actually happened too...
 
when I did tramadol, 100mg was plenty for me, any higher dose and I didn't really enjoy it as much. Wouldn't go above 100mg again unless I had a tolerance from using it regularly, which is unlikely to ever happen as I don't have access to it.
 
ok ignore me then :p I did get feelings off 100mg, but it was an extremely mild mood lift, i like to do all 400mg, but spread out over 3-4 hours, lasts ages too)
 
Night, Mugz <3

Feeling kinda dozy meself too. Most active I've been for weeks though so can't complain :)

Still not gotten around to clearing me Inbox mind 8)

Tomorrow is another day... in fact it's already another day and will probably wake up with a guicy rebound before dawn if I actually do doze off anyway :\
 
i have had NO drugs for a week! normally have some ket at least 3 times a week, but its essay tiiiiiime. written 12000 words in the past 2 weeks. phew. almost over, gonna reward myself with a trip i think :D
 
wtf it was an hour ago i just posted that already ...

damn i get so drawn in with this game its just too good !

Right going to bed , laters people
 
Sleep "pattern"... Why do you forsake me so? :|

Just awoke a short while ago. Dunno what to do...
Watch Eastern Horror? Good plan.
Play FFXII? Good plan.
Make tunes? I did that all day yesterday and finally got the tune that I've been wanting (and trying) to make for days done so nub that ;)

I'm sure I'll fink uv summit :)

Hope everyone's well and either sleeping or enjoying being awake <3~:)~<3 Wuv t'yoo!
 
morning EADD and the world.

Gonna go make myself some breakfast using the burger mix I made last night, then will be getting ready for my trip back.

I guess noone in London is free today, or noone in London wants to meet up with Mugabe. Will probably just past straight through instead of stopping off in London for a bit then.

Mugabe , I'm building the footings for a block of flats in hackney,you would be more than welcome to come lend a hand , or even share a cold can or 2..
Hope the trains treat you well man.
 
morning EADD. I feel totally dead despite having plenty of sleep etc etc. waiting for a parcel. v boring. someones banging about loads outside so i keep thinking its arrived. one day maybe i'll get a doorbell.

totally weird thing happened yesterday. the internet just went off. the wire to the power socket had snapped, it looked more like it had been cut. it was warm at the bits where it was broken so think it must have been an imperfection plus a slight power surge, but the plastic coatings not melted. i have a really fancy fuse box which should prevent surges. luckily its the same power adapter as my battery recharger so not internetless.
 
ha ha yeah im a chatter box all right xD

god what weird dreams i had again last night , my mate was going to give me $19240 but shot me instead ... i wonder why that number , usually numbers mean something ... and even more why the fuck did he shoot me after showing me some hash he had hidden under the floor boards xD
 
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