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Random DXM questions: The Higher Ground

^^ He's experienced DXM... I would almost NEVER recommend DMT for a first time psychedelic but I have witnessed people experiencing it as their first psychedelic and they LOVED it. So i guess its really about knowing what to expect and being personally prepared for the experience.
 
The extreme nausea, the lack of ability to breathe, the panicky feeling, all accompanied by robitussin gel caps of dxm for me, sometimes happening at dosages as low as 300mg. (Although the lower the dosage the rarer the occasion.) This is just something that accompanies the dxm body load, i've gone through this a million times. I'm sure its a turn off but once you learn to keep your cool and just vomit the shit up, you get used to it.
 
Why not try the multitude of widely-available plant entheogens out there? Cactus, DMT-containing plants, LSA seeds, the list goes on.
 
Thanks for your responses guys. When I think back to exact pain it becomes clear that an intense tension in my diaphragm makes a LOT of sense. Accessory muscular breathing would account for the shortness of breath... Thanks guys. I need to just keep this in mind on my next trips.
 
Let me know if you want any pointers on how to easily prepare cactus for mescaline consumption.
 
Try hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, now before i tried them a lot of people have told me that they cause nausea and severe cramps and stuff. And i read a lot of extraction methods and such... but in the end i just ended up eating the seeds straight up with out even scraping the outer coating.

Personally i have done it a couple of times and dosed from 5-10 seeds with out any prep method at all, and got absolutely no nausea or cramps, and i can tell you this is the closest trip i have gotten to LSD from some seed... And they are cheap and fairly easy to get online.

Weed also goes wonderfully with HBWR.

just my two cents.
 
thedeadlywar said:
Dmt is a good psychedelic, to those recommending its use above, but that's really an odd suggestion for a first time psychedelic, don't you think?
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I had some difficulty with this situation recently... A friend of mine had never tripped before (smoked weed for 10 years and rolled a couple times with me), and lately we've been discussing mushrooms. He was reluctant to trip for 4-6 hours, so I pondered a quicker initiation, and DMT seemed appropriate. He's reasonably mature (at 28 years old), I warned him that it would be difficult at times, and that assimilation afterward would take some time, but that peak effects would only last 3-5 minutes, and that he would most certainly grow from the experience. He smoked a 40 mg hit, had a really hard time dealing with what had just happened after it ended for about 15 minutes, then after pacing for a while, his eyes lit up like a kid on Christmas morning, we talked for hours, and he's been reading like a madman about psychedelics since.

I think DMT can be a reasonable introduction to tryptamines (or psychedelics in general) in a mature individual. That might sound insane to some, but DMT is on such a pedestal that a lot of psychonauts believe it should only be theirs as experienced explorers of the mind. Despite the unparalleled intensity of the experience, it is only a few minutes. Certainly more time is required to assimilate most difficult (not "bad") mushroom or LSD experiences. I, too, condone a simple MHRB extraction.
 
Doesn't DMT produce time dilations? I would've though at that intensity time kind of loses its meaning and what to an outsider might seem like 15 minutes, it could feel like an eternity for the person inside the "DMT Space". Having never tried DMT I wouldn't know and just because a trip is short doesn't mean it can't be as overwhelmingly intense. I will try DMT soon, can't wait.
 
There can certainly be time dilation with DMT (more often than not), but I've experienced greater dilation on drugs that provide longer trips. I draw a distinction in recovery/assimilation time in time spent actually in a psychedelic state from time perceived in that state. I don't think DMT is a likely psychedelic to shatter the mind in some unwelcome way--perhaps during the experience itself, but not after the fact. A large dose of LSD or mushrooms would likely have more impact following a particularly difficult experience. Also consider a common pitfall for people new to psychedelics: getting caught in the loop of thought of "I'm never going to get out of this, this is never going to end..."
 
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