Opioids Random delivery, how to enjoy responsibly?

[x89]

Hey ho!

So I believe I have some raw opium delivered from India. It'd make sense as I ordered it but then the person I ordered from said there were issues and then blah, blah.

Anyway on point! I've never had this before. It's an almost completely black substance, very oily (wet, stays on your fingers if you rub a bit) and at most 3g (was about 3600mg, I'm just estimating the packing is like 600mg).

I've no pipe / bong although I could maybe get one or make one. Can this be chased in this form? Can it be eaten raw? Can I make it into tea?
If so how much should I measure out, how long between doses?

If there's a megathread or something that'd be appreciated, I couldn't see one immediately and erowid is lacking a "Dosage" section as it usually carrier - I guess perhaps the variety between strains or something?

As you can tell I know nothing but I would like to get something out of it while also not killing myself so pointers in that direction much appreciated!

I've had other opiates (OC, H, bupe) before and not died, doubt I have much in the way of tolerance though.

Thanks!

 

[justbecause]

Foil and a straw. Smoke it like H. (90% sure).

 

[majorigpa]

^ this. just treat it like smoking tar heroin, theres many threads on here that will show you the way. i've also enjoyed it pinched off like a piece of hash and sandwiched in a bowl of grass, though i see you don't currently have a pipe. if you can get ahold of some green and a piece, this is a nice way kill a couple hours.

 

[x89]

Can you just eat the buggery?

I'll go hunting for straws, whisky and a lighter tomorrow (quit smoking so don't have the lighter available to my horror!).

Should be a calm hogmanay!

 

[bingey]

This thread reeks of sourcing

anyway raw opium can't be smoked.

refining it is pretty easy though

 

[justbecause]

Read some threads on how to smoke H. It's a bit like cooking, takes technique. Don't use a Zippo or Butane lighter (too hot).

 

[bingey]

^

Seriously man , for correctly smoking H you need to cut it with caffeine or be prepared to lose a lot which doesn't matter if you have no tolerance.

Anyway now that we are not discussing the smoking of h but the smoking of RAW opium which contains excessive amounts of water and plant fats smoking is in fact not a viable route of adminstration.

purifying it is if memory serves me correctly a question of boiling down , filtering and good drying (might be wrong here though)

 

[x89]

This thread reeks of sourcing

anyway raw opium can't be smoked.

refining it is pretty easy though

I have it in my possession, there's no sourcing at all. I know the BL rules.

Read some threads on how to smoke H. It's a bit like cooking, takes technique. Don't use a Zippo or Butane lighter (too hot).Read some threads on how to smoke H. It's a bit like cooking, takes technique. Don't use a Zippo or Butane lighter (too hot).

I've chased the dragon before with H and it was all fine, I can't see that happening with this solid substance though? Does it liquidize?

 

[bingey]

I have it in my possession, there's no sourcing at all. I know the BL rules

Yes I'm sorry I have to get with the times, guess an internet dealer is as good as any.

oh and lots of water will come off and then it will burn probably

 

[x89]

Yes I'm sorry I have to get with the times, guess an internet dealer is as good as any.

oh and lots of water will come off and then it will burn probably

Yeah see that's what I'd expect unless you very - as in *very* - slowly heated it. It's certainly not going to give anything to "chase" is it? (like H if you do it right).

Edit: Seems as is vaping it would be better in that circumstance. Or obtaining a pipe of some sort!

Edit 2: Yeah should probably have not even mentioned where I got it but I think "internet" is vague enough to not count as sourcing. It'd be akin to saying "I got H in Scotland" only more vague as the internet is quite large!

 

[bingey]

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Perhaps a lightbulb would do the trick but overall I doubt it , btw have you ever looked into the way the chinese smoke purified opium? very refined process, but why not take it orally man , a lot of substances are more euphoric when taken orally , obviously you have to take a lot more especially with morphine but that's only a portion of the opium high. Smoking it will waste the codeine among others.

 

[x89]

If that 1st sentence wasn't directed at me then I apologize. If it was then what's your problem? WTF?

You mean

Yeah see that's what I'd expect unless you very - as in *very* - slowly heated it. It's certainly not going to give anything to "chase" is it? (like H if you do it right).

Well chasing the dragon tends to end up actually chasing something around foil, I can't see me chasing a solid piece of opium around the foil or am I wrong?

I apologies I don't mean to cause any offense, I'm just trying to work out what's what here. I'm entirely ignorant when it comes to opium in this state.

Really! No offense intended. Is not the method of chasing the dragon chasing that delicious line of gold around some tinfoil? If it's not then I've been terribly misguided and my highs have been terrible!

 

[x89]

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Seriously man , for correctly smoking H you need to cut it with caffeine or be prepared to lose a lot which doesn't matter if you have no tolerance.

Anyway now that we are not discussing the smoking of h but the smoking of RAW opium which contains excessive amounts of water and plant fats smoking is in fact not a viable route of adminstration.

purifying it is if memory serves me correctly a question of boiling down , filtering and good drying (might be wrong here though)

What about orally (or anally if I had a ROA other than sticking my fingers up my arse)? Or boiling in tea?

 

[justbecause]

Wow... To much ignorance in here... H comes in many different forms, perhaps you've never seen West Coast tar. If I wanted attitude and ignorance I'd get married again. Seriously dudes... Not even going to there with this. Morons. Later, flame away.

 

[x89]

Wow... To much ignorance in here... H comes in many different forms, perhaps you've never seen West Coast tar. If I wanted attitude and ignorance I'd get married again. Seriously dudes... Not even going to there with this. Morons. Later, flame away.

Okay American! They always seem to claim flame and that's that. The H I get is pure Afghan and I chase it around foil in a gold square. It's quite tricky to keep the lighter far enough from the foil to prevent it burning but I always eventually do.

Not trying to flame, no need to get angry!

And I'm asking about opium anyway. Probably just going to have it orally.

Thanks for the advice so far!

 

[majorigpa]

the opium i've encountered sounds very similar to yours, both of which are closest in consistency to west coast tar, which is way easier to chase than Afghan and not very wasteful at all (compared to all the other types of dope). i have a lot of experience chasing tar, and seing as you have 3 grams to fuck with, would recommend that. get yourself a rectangular strip of foil, an inch wide and 6 inches long. stick about .2 on the dull side, and with a hollowed out bic pen in your teeth and the lighter in your right hand, start applying heat from underneath WITHOUT SCORCHING THE FOIL. tilt the foil towards the floor about 30 degrees, bringing the flame ever closer until the O starts to fizzle and run. as it runs, it will vaporize, and this vapor is what you want to inhale. now hold that shit in!! the taste is sweet and the smoke not harsh at all. the ritual itself seems very spiritual and ancient, and dose is more easily controlled this way. the more you practice the fatter rips you'll get. again, just search the tar chasing threads, theres nothing to it. i see you're from scotland. how about an sacrificing a bit for an opium hookah mixed with shisha and a cool coal? also, i've had success layering my O with weed before and found it very enjoyable. smoked on it for hours. lemme know how it works out for you, i havent had any O in 5 years and would love to hear what you think.

 

[-Guido-]

Okay American! They always seem to claim flame and that's that. The H I get is pure Afghan and I chase it around foil in a gold square. It's quite tricky to keep the lighter far enough from the foil to prevent it burning but I always eventually do.

Not trying to flame, no need to get angry!

And I'm asking about opium anyway. Probably just going to have it orally.

Thanks for the advice so far!

Pure Afghan? There is no such thing as pure heroin unless you are getting ampules of Diamorphone in the UK.

If you take it orally you aren't going feel anything.

 

[bingey]

^

Vietnamese/Laos heroin can come pretty close though. But indeed UK afghan is probably around 30-40 % pure at best with the rest consisting mainly of caffeine to raise the melting point and make for better smoking , did I mention it's in the freebase form?

oh and to the op plugging is a good method , but potentially dangerous due to the good bioavailibility and rapid metabolization for an intolerant user (shorter more intense high) so start out small!

 

[acid_staind]

I've chased the dragon before with H and it was all fine, I can't see that happening with this solid substance though? Does it liquidize?

I've had opium before and it was so thick and gooey there was no way of smoking it off tin foil. My advice is to make a pipe and smoke it on top of some weed or tobacco.

 

[x89]

Pure Afghan? There is no such thing as pure heroin unless you are getting ampules of Diamorphone in the UK.

If you take it orally you aren't going feel anything.

I took it all orally yesterday, did feel mild effects.

Then I couldn't sleep all night and today I'm in cold sweats all day. So yeah that was wrong. I can vaguely still feel it.

@majorigpa: Wish I'd read your post before I went and took it orally. Now I missed out on much of any goodness and just feel like shit. Bah.