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railed big dose of mdma, maybe too much

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coastalguy

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Hey guys, dog and his girlfriend decided to get some mdma the other night and started off railing about .12. Waited about 1.5-2 hrs and railed another .10-.12. Everything was good, first one came on strong but good, got a little ansy at one point but nothing bad. After the second dose, they waited longer and decided to do their last doses, being two .1 doses. Railed one, waited 30 min or less and did the last one. After that everything got overbearing. was drinking plenty of water but had to sit/lay down for a bit. Got jaw chatter when nornally dog has only had jaw clenching. Was seeing hues of colors (yellow and pink) then at a few points the carpet had glowing blue/green dots tracing the threads of the carpet. Dog was uncomfortable for a bit and seriously was unsure about what he had gotten. The mdma looked pretty normal to what ive seen which normally is tan-amber crystal with usually a tiny bit of powder from the chunks moving. This was a lighter tan, little powder in the bottom. Dog sweat pretty damn prefusely for awhile. Dog has only just started railing mdma, as they have never railed anything. Dog switched nostrils throughout.

There is a lot of meth where dog lives but trusts a handful of people who arent any bit into meth, just mdma acid mushrooms coke.

Too big of a dose too fast or maybe not all mdma?
 
Also At the overbearing part I also had a hard time seeing, tryed looking at girlfriend but vision would glitch side to side fast and repeatedly for a few seconds.
 
We cant tell you for sure what it was but what you describe can definitely happen from too much MDMA and it sounds like you did too much. Try to limit yourself to one redose.
 
Yeah thats definetly the plan, I think railing all of it might have contributed. Eating one then waiting a couple hours then railing one, waiting another 2-3 hours and railing one more has been the dosage used so far, And has been great.
 
One Thousand Words said:
400mg is way too much.
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Which is metabolized into a significant dose of MDA at 400mg (some persons may metabolize up to 30% of the dose to MDA) -- which will cause you to see open eyed visuals.

MDMA has non-linear pharmocokinetics --

in oral doses between 25 and 40 mg (yes you get effects from such doses of pure MDMA) -- the elimination half life is actually between 2-3 hours

At 100 mg -- the half-life (time to eliminate 1/2 the initial dose from the body is closer to 7

At 150 mg it's between 9 and 11

a 400 mg dose would likely have a half life of longer than 24 hours.


Insufflation (snorting) -- not enough studies that I have seen to figure half life.

However -- staging it causes the liver enzyme that metabolizes it to get "clogged" -- meaning all the extra rails after the first are going to hang around in your brain and body -- A LOT longer than if you dropped 400 mg oral in one dose.

The psychedelic activity is caused by the action on the 5HT2A receptor -- mainly by the r-ENTANTIOMER
 
I would probably throw up... I typically dont get as good of effects from snorting mdma as i do from eating it. But still , thats definitely a huge dose... Not suprised you felt uncomfortable.

Next time maybe try half as much.. You can always do more if you dont feel satisfied but you can never un do it
 
shugenja said:
Which is metabolized into a significant dose of MDA at 400mg (some persons may metabolize up to 30% of the dose to MDA) -- which will cause you to see open eyed visuals.

MDMA has non-linear pharmocokinetics --

in oral doses between 25 and 40 mg (yes you get effects from such doses of pure MDMA) -- the elimination half life is actually between 2-3 hours

At 100 mg -- the half-life (time to eliminate 1/2 the initial dose from the body is closer to 7

At 150 mg it's between 9 and 11

a 400 mg dose would likely have a half life of longer than 24 hours.


Insufflation (snorting) -- not enough studies that I have seen to figure half life.

However -- staging it causes the liver enzyme that metabolizes it to get "clogged" -- meaning all the extra rails after the first are going to hang around in your brain and body -- A LOT longer than if you dropped 400 mg oral in one dose.

The psychedelic activity is caused by the action on the 5HT2A receptor -- mainly by the r-ENTANTIOMER
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thats interesting does that mean one could use low doses like 25 mg in occasionally inbetween rolls without causing too much tolerance build up?
 
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