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Quitting/Tapering Thread.

You gave me a flashback of when I was on day three of getting off opiates, I decided I had to go for a walk, and ended up walking 5/6ks, some of it uphill, and being in so much pain and sweating like a mofo, but at the same time it definitely helped the wd's.

15k's is really impressive, I thought I was pretty strong going 7-10 every now and then...

I've never been a stim-head but the few times I have give me a pretty strong picture of what you must have felt like to want to stop.

Good on ya.

And for people quitting anything... exercise! It works, trust us.
 
Yeah I've taken up martial arts since I started tapering subs/vals and it's helped a ton. I don't get in as much as I'd like because the sub taper really kills my energy levels, but the once or twice a week I can force myself to go in for a few hours I feel amazing afterwards. Well, all my muscles hurt, but otherwise I feel amazing :p
 
Feeling amazing is what we really want in the end, it's maybe why we started doing drugs, and if not amazing then at least at peace...we sometimes forget the many ways that exist to feel at peace outside of that "hit".

Myself included, of course.
 
infectedmushroom said:
Feeling amazing is what we really want in the end, it's maybe why we started doing drugs, and if not amazing then at least at peace...we sometimes forget the many ways that exist to feel at peace outside of that "hit".

Myself included, of course.
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Yeah, the problem is the drugs are easy, a shortcut. And I mean recreationally they're a lot of fun - I wouldn't give up the nights I spent dancing on MDMA or snorting K on a friends couch or wandering a park on acid - but the other ways of feeling amazing or peaceful require long, hard, painful work, and we live in a culture of instant gratification. And of course the drugs turn on you if you abuse them, and you generally don't realize you've abused them until after they've turned on you :/
 
Crankinit said:
Yeah, the problem is the drugs are easy, a shortcut. And I mean recreationally they're a lot of fun - I wouldn't give up the nights I spent dancing on MDMA or snorting K on a friends couch or wandering a park on acid - but the other ways of feeling amazing or peaceful require long, hard, painful work, and we live in a culture of instant gratification. And of course the drugs turn on you if you abuse them, and you generally don't realize you've abused them until after they've turned on you :/
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True, I agree. Interest turns to obsession almost without noticing, control to compulsion as well. Sometimes I want to give up all substances because I don't mind if I don't have those crazy or enlightening or fun or whatever experiences anymore borne from drug use...I just want peace. I think without a clear mind one can't find the true peace within themselves. 2c
 
Yep I too will never regret great experiences on MDMA, acid etc. In the earlier days I also 'felt' great on meth.. But eventually I was just smoking for the ritual of the inhale, exhale, twirling, melting etc. Festivals and concerts were rare and I generally used alone. Productivity decreased.

My home/financial situation is now that I just cant spend hundreds a week just for the hell of it.

I may use again, who knows. But Im enjoying not right now and seeing the all round benefits of me not.

Stay Safe over Easter everyone ��
 
Yeah as fucked up a drug as it is, I had a lot of fun nights out on meth at first (combined with booze or occasionally juice), especially back in the day before the MDMA drought when it was much cheaper and hadn't completely fucked up the scene yet. I remember the first time I took it by itself in a higher dose (as opposed to just small lines to perk me up so I didn't waste my MDMA high on the couch), added a few drinks on top to mellow it out - it was almost like the first time I dropped pills, except I didn't have to worry about spacing it out, or losing the magic.

But the scene went downhill and around the same time my meth comedowns started turning into paranoid wrecks - I'd smoke way too much while on short acting downers, then run out of those and suddenly have three times as much meth as I should pumping through my system for the next 6 - 8 hours so I'd sit there with my heart racing 180bpm convinced I was about to carc it. Eventually I finally figured out I shouldn't touch meth unless I had benzos on hand to crash with.

Guess the moral of the story is that if you combine disinhibiting downers with incredibly fiendish uppers of disparate durations you're gonna have a bad time.

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^I've always found a small dose of a longer acting benzo like diazepam to take the edge off any ampthet high. I save a couple for the comedown, plus some codeine, but there's a nice synergy which can be achieved if dosed correctly.

Short acting beznos like alprazolam (if I could bloody get some) are great for comedowns off any stimulant. It seems to almost entirely diminish negative side-effects.
 
Benzos are good for crashing, but I've never found them to work well for balancing out the meth high. There doesn't seem to be a dose in the middle ground between 'too weak to kill the anxiety' and 'strong enough to kill the meth high entirely,' not that I've found anyway, and I've experimented occasionally. A low dose of benzos combined with the booze/juice does work well to allow me to get high on meth while consuming less of the alcohol/G, but of course that comes with it's own massive host of dangers (I once lost a brand new pipe and $500+ worth of drugs because I took too much valium with my vodka before heading out into town. Also lost my phone, not my proudest moment, and it wasn't the first time I'd blacked out and done stupid shit attempting to combine benzos/booze so I could take meth without getting edgy, there's another fucked up story I've told here somewhere before).
 
I have noticed since i took oxy 20's for an adjustment surgery I had. took them for a week. then went back to my usual hydros. I noticed that they didn't work anymore. I starting taking my hyds until I found what amount it took to feel anything. it takes 20 hydro 10's to feel them now. This is unacceptable.I want to taper back down to my original dose of 40mg a day.What is the best way to do this? Where do I start? i've been taking hydros for more then a year along with 15 mg morphine e.r. twice a day.I have access to Kratom (It's so far still legal here).Please help me set up a taper plan. I have 100 hydros left.Also how long until my tolerence goes back down to where 40mg a day still works?... Thank you...
 
It's a long road isn't it!

My last decent large binge on meth was very early March and then only smoked 1 point on 5/6th April.. Nothing since.. but if it wasn't for my long term dealer no longer using (I asked last week) or the fact I only have enough coin for bills, food and family events I'd probably have used as I still think about using a fair bit. I guess I was lucky as I always sorted the priorities first.. But smoked everything that was left.

On a positive, through exercise and good eating Ive lost 10kgs, and I've had really great family focused days that Id just not have done had I been fried or coming down. Attended something recently and realized it was the first time in 2 years I'd attended not feeling like I just wanted to sleep.. Or get home for another twirl of the pipe.

Hope everyone is doing well in what ever it is you are trying to deal with. I never considered myself to have a full blown addiction, but its still bloody VERY hard to put it totally behind me. Each day is just another day of good health at this stage. Just enjoying the odd red wine as my only indulgence.
 
popeyes mate said:
I may use again, who knows.
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Wow.. Posted this early April and the very next day my brother in law told me he was dealing. Scored 1 point and then he actually gave me a couple of extra pts free the next day... Which I handed back!! My partner said he didn't want me doing it so given they are brothers I just gave it back to keep the peace. Tough but glad I did.
 
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Crankinit said:
Yeah, the problem is the drugs are easy, a shortcut. And I mean recreationally they're a lot of fun - I wouldn't give up the nights I spent dancing on MDMA or snorting K on a friends couch or wandering a park on acid - but the other ways of feeling amazing or peaceful require long, hard, painful work, and we live in a culture of instant gratification. And of course the drugs turn on you if you abuse them, and you generally don't realize you've abused them until after they've turned on you :/
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This post is insightful.
Drugs can take you to good places, I admit.
But, it is best to use exercise, meditation, etc. to get to those places.
 
Hi there.

So im in codeine difficulties. I'm going to point form :
. Over a year of daily use
. Now 600mg a dose, 2-4 doses a day
. Only morning dose does anything
. Don't crave it as such
. Obviously fkng expensive
. This week, even after dosing normally, waking up at 3am with restless legs ??
. Need to get off now.
. 99% of doctors and "opiate specialists' are full of shit, dont care and will try to get you on sub or methadone (fuck off)
. If i can't taper down, I'm giving myself one last chance then I'm going to perth to get a naltrexone implant.

In regards to ice, just want to give my little bit of hope. There was a time when i never thought i'd be able to stop thinking about it, that things would never be pleasurable again bla bla.
It's gone, after time, maybe a few years, it gets better and better. I know others that have experienced the same. I suppose i landed on codeine because it didn't intefere with my life that much, and took the edge off a bit.

Not working anymore, time to fuck it off.

I can do this.
 
Hi Only,

Sorry to hear of your dilemma. Can you try cutting out one of the later doses? By that point your enzymes would be well and truly saturated anyway so I doubt you'd notice much difference. If tapering is hard for you (as it was for me) can you taper down as far as possible then try jumping off to minimize the pain of CT?
 
Well, here I am, tapering down off opiates. Milder ones, hydro and perks, very rarely a roxi. I beat this demon before. I beat the meth demon before that. So why am I here again? Just stupid. After cleaning up from 10 years of meth use thru a recovery shelter program that I Inhoused for a whole year on my own will. No courts. Just sick and tired of my life on meth. At the time I swore it was the hardest thing I had ever, or would ever do. But a few years later I met hydros. My doc introduced us for severe cramping pain. He fed me a small amount (started at 30 7.5s a month, then up to 60 10s a month). Those would b gone n 2 wks. After being ripped off twice in one day I went cold turkey. Said screw it I am done being slave to these bitches. I couldn't sleep, couldn't eat. Well, everyone knows the wd symptoms. But I did it. And didn't touch one again for 2 years. Then I stared taking a 10 here and there. And ended up 3 years in with a 80-100mg habit. I know to some people that might not be a lot, but my pocket b
 
Oops, I accidentally hit post lol.

Anyways, I couldn't afford it anymore and I honestly felt like my kidneys and bladder were shutting down. So I have tapered down to 50 a day slowly. No one I. My family nor my friends has a clue. They would be more prone to think I was high if I went WITHOUT the drug n my system lol. I hate this. And I am gonna beat it. I am just wondering tho, when I jumped last time I was taking around what I am now a day. Anywhere from 40-60. It was pure hell. But if I taper this all the way out I am wondering how bad my symptoms will be? What if I slow slow slowly taper? Like I already have been. Just cutting off 5mg a day every few wks. Can I pull this off without the whole family and my boyfriend knowing? I know that sounds like a crazy question so I will follow it with this explanation:

Yes I want to get clean for ME, then my kids and all others I love, but for ME first. I don't want to die. And I don't want to and can't go on like this forever. It's got to stop. But I don't want to lose my boyfriend in the process. He honestly is clueless. We moved in together about 6 months after I started taking them again and if he knew he would be outta here for sure. He saw way to much damage done to his own family over drugs, he will NOT tolerate me being some kind of junkie (in his eyes).

So anybody? Can anybody tell me can I taper so slowly and down so low that I can pull of the withdrawals and still work after coming down from 80-100 mg a day?
 
If you can get your hands on any bupe, rapid tapers with really small doses can be perfect for opiate habits like yours, only.
When i say "small doses", i mean 1mg or less, tapering over a couple of weeks. It will hold you enough to get you through the day, and take a great deal of the physical discomfort out of coming off codeine.
 
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