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I'm just going to wear it. Judge away, I know I'm not the only one that wonders these kind of things... %)


When I lay down in bed, close my eyes, and concentrate, within a few minutes I start to feel sensations very reminiscent of the onset of MDMA. It's a serotonin rushing feeling, like my brain is being flooded with 'something', and while it's not crazy euphoric, it's definitely enjoyable if you pay attention to it. I try to imagine myself feeling this way if I was standing up and bopping to some music, and I agree with myself (:p) that this would most certainly feel like a full on roll. Unfortunately if I leave bed, the feeling goes away.

For comparison, back in December, I took a ~75mg insufflated hit of mephedrone and immediately layed down on my couch to watch a movie with friends. When the meph hit, my entire brain felt tingly, euphoric, warmed up, almost like someone was gently pouring luke-warm water over the top of my head. It's nearly the same exact feeling....

Anyone else get this? Is serotonin actually being released into a person's brain when they begin to enter the sleep cycle? I'm sure it has something to do with my body and mind getting comfy and settled in, but oh man if I could have this feeling without laying down......well....maybe I can!! Here's where the thread gets really weird:


On New Year's Eve, I dropped 110mg MDA/MDMA mixture, didn't roll very hard but still felt pretty nice. When I went to bed, as usual I was still feeling it, but very faintly. However, after a few minutes of settling into bed, the same serotonin flood feeling stated above started to come over me, but with MDMA in my system, it felt A LOT more pronounced, and I started to feel AMAZING, involuntarily moaining in euphoria. While in a hyper-sensative state like this, with absolutely no external stimulation, light, sound or anything, I felt like I could literally feel the chemicals being released from the top of my brain, and literally felt like I could feel a certain spot in my brain tensing to push out the neurotransmitters to the synapses.

Even further, I felt like I could voluntarily tense this muscle/area on my brain and trigger the release on command!! I know, you're about to click the back button, but listen!! The serotonin rush feeling I keep mentioning above, I would feel a very intense tingle and washing over feeling every time I would tense this spot up in my head. I couldn't imagine how I could possibly explain how to tense it, but then again, can you explain to someone in words how to make a fist? Anyway, I felt like I could voluntarily do this and it would consistently keep rushing my brain with tingles that felt absolutely fantastic.

Intrigued by this experience, I occasionally try to do the same thing when I'm sober. Call me crazy, but it still works. Obviously not as intense as if I'm on MDMA, but still, I feel like if I concentrate enough, I can tense this spot in my head up, and then a few seconds later, I feel that warmth and tingle wash over my brain. If I do this when I lay down in bed, it triggers nearly a full on rolling feeling that I actually can enjoy! :)

I also did the same thing after taking MDMA again twice after NYE, and still the exact result.

I promise I'm not high right now, I'm not crazy nor am I looking for attention. This is simply something I observe about myself, and can't think of anyone else better to discuss it with.

If no one can take this seriously, I suppose I understand. :\
 
Interesting...I don't see any reason to doubt that you can experience this. But I would be skeptical that it is actually the feeling of neurotransmitters being pushed out :)

I think if we focus on any specific area of our body we can become much more aware of subtle sensations, which can lead to various interpretations.

That said, I wouldn't mind being able to feel serotonin do its thing :)
 
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Interesting...I don't see any reason to doubt that you can experience this. But I would be skeptical that it is actually the feeling of neurotransmitters being pushed out :)

I think if we focus on any specific area of our body we can become much more aware of subtle sensations, which can lead to various interpretations.

That said, I wouldn't mind being able to feel serotonin do it's thing :)

Thanks. :)

I agree, it's quite possibly a placebo effect, however it's consistent which is what makes me wonder. It's also a very similar feeling to the comeup of meph/MDMA, it even sends tingles up and down my spine. It's not so much a feeling of 'hyper-awareness' of a certain area of my body, it's honestly a chemical feeling. I feel tingling/warmth sensations actually moving and travelling from the top of my brain, down and outward, eventually reaching my extremities. It's quite nice, and worth giving a try when you lay down this evening. :)

Placebo is the strongest drug out there though, we can all agree on that.
 
i doubt its releasing serotonin into your brain when you do what your doing, you'd probably start getting depressed if you did that on command. but as long as what ever your doing feels good keep doing it haha. i'm jealous.
 
i doubt its releasing serotonin into your brain when you do what your doing, you'd probably start getting depressed if you did that on command. but as long as what ever your doing feels good keep doing it haha. i'm jealous.

It doesn't take a huge amount of serotonin to feel pretty happy.... your happy without drugs right? hopefully you are but that is a normal serotonin level or at least to a level where you aren't depressed. Releasing a small amount (remember he said it wasn't crazy euphoric), could be manageable.

The mind is capable of experiencing some very powerful things, even without drugs. Meditation can take you to some wonderful states.

I am a smoker that has held their breath for 3 minutes 30 seconds. Normal individuals with an unfocused mind and body will usually be unconscious before that amount of time.

Honestly though, i think your brain has just sort of remembered the feeling of the rush, and through the power of your own mind you can experience it at will.
 
Possibly you have stumbled across away to control your alpha waves.
People spend years meditating to do this.
I suggest you keep at it on the use or lose it principle.
Anyway if it's true you'll never have to pay for drugs again!
 
funny to read this post today...

i've been experiencing something very similar lately. i've been on a break for 3 months, and for the past month or so, whenever i'm busting out on the dancefloor, i totally feel the e-rush, i get that euphoria from the music, and the tingles in my belly. it's something that i've been trying to cultivate since, but only when i'm dancing.

last night, laying in bed, it hits me; i got the rush and the tingles and i just felt so. fucking. good. i figured it must be my seretonin kicking into overdrive for some reason, and just rolled with it (ha!).

neato to hear about someone else experiencing this as well! :-D
 
Possibly you have stumbled across away to control your alpha waves.
People spend years meditating to do this.
I suggest you keep at it on the use or lose it principle.
Anyway if it's true you'll never have to pay for drugs again!

This is an insanely interesting point. I think you just started a life-long self-exploration journey. 8o Now, I can only wonder what this would do if I was on a psychedelic like mushrooms......it could potentially be spiritual!!!

i doubt its releasing serotonin into your brain when you do what your doing, you'd probably start getting depressed if you did that on command.

Funny, I thought this exact same thing, and actually stopped doing it when I was rolling in fear of this possibly being true. I haven't felt any kind of definite rebound effect from it. :p It's really hard for me to tell when I'm depressed or anxious as a result from a drug because I generally seem to be an emotional roller coaster to begin with.

It doesn't take a huge amount of serotonin to feel pretty happy.... your happy without drugs right? hopefully you are but that is a normal serotonin level or at least to a level where you aren't depressed. Releasing a small amount (remember he said it wasn't crazy euphoric), could be manageable.

One thing I'm learning as I experiment more and more with drugs, the term 'euphoria' can have many different meanings to different people. Also, I'm learning that different drugs all cause completely different effects that all get classified as 'euphoria'. To me, euphoria is a completely mental effect that starts as a complete anxiety relief, which grows into a overly-comfortable "Ohh, I feel so good" feeling. I always rate the euphoria of drugs I take in comparison to the opiates I am familiar with.

Having said that, I bet if I do this brain wiggle thing (let's call it meditate) for a while, I absolutely could achieve an anxiety-relieved drug-like euphoric state. Maybe not quite an opiate euphoria, but a unique euphoria in itself.


When I go to bed, you bet your ass I'm going to wiggle the crap out of my brain tonight!! :!
 
We can all make ourselves feel happy - if your snuggled up in bed and relaxed then you can focus more on this feel good vibe.

By thinking 'happy thoughts' then your going to feel happy, if your thinking rolling thoughts your going to feel 'rolly'?
 
^^That has always been my thinking :)

I can get this feeling in the mornings sometimes(after my coffee of course)....when I am sitting there drinking my coffee and waiting to start the day I get these rushy feelings of goodness...and then i get to work and it f a d e s away :(
 
It's meditation.. try taking a yoga class- the meditation you do after an hour and a half of yoga exercises has felt as euphoric, if not more, than MDMA.
 
yes i get this too. ive candyflipped a few times, and i notice if i lay down on my bed or if i (sorry :D) take a crap and stare at the rough marks on tiles or stare at abundant spaces (walls, tiles etc) of the same colour, i begin to get the patterns that i recieved with my candyflip trips.

all it takes is some concentration and my colours slightly fuck out, with colours and contrast getting all messed up, i receive open eye patterns and i start to feel a slight warmth grow within me that i recall having from my experiences.

and undoubtedly if i smoke a bunch of weed, then the lack of though process enables my concentration of whatever im looking at to go through the roof, so every sesh is now a controlled flashback...

:) thanks for bringing this up...
 
I can honestly say I feel like I get randomly e-happy throughout my day. Doesn't matter if i'm sitting, standing, walking, or dancing, I just occasionally get a real strong rush of euphoria and just smile and dance around and talk a lot. Maybe I'm lucky or maybe I've applied enough rolling morals to my every day life that I experience the majic sober..
 
All good points.

The feeling I'm describing is a physical feeling moreso than a thought pattern. It's not an anxiety relief or a true 'euphoria', but it's more of a brain massage than anything.

I too get random feelings and rushes throughout the day, some euphoric, some dysphoric. I think it's not because of the drugs we've taken, it's simply that we're now more aware of these feelings because we've used drugs that induce them.
 
yes i get this too. ive candyflipped a few times, and i notice if i lay down on my bed or if i (sorry :D) take a crap and stare at the rough marks on tiles or stare at abundant spaces (walls, tiles etc) of the same colour, i begin to get the patterns that i recieved with my candyflip trips.

all it takes is some concentration and my colours slightly fuck out, with colours and contrast getting all messed up, i receive open eye patterns and i start to feel a slight warmth grow within me that i recall having from my experiences.

and undoubtedly if i smoke a bunch of weed, then the lack of though process enables my concentration of whatever im looking at to go through the roof, so every sesh is now a controlled flashback...

:) thanks for bringing this up...

This too! It happens quite severely for me, and if I smoke weed it happens A LOT. I can see pretty much anything wiggling, moving, melting and even colors go in and out of being deeper, all exactly like the early stages of a mushroom trip. Also, walls seem to breathe permanently for me. I've been this way since my first psych experience with 2C-E.
 
Flashbacks me thinks, I love them. "FREE ROLLZZZZ"

Seriously though, when I get hammered even off MDxx, I get massive rushes, sooooo weird
 
As I read up more on meditation, it's seeming more and more like that's what I'm doing. I just tried laying down, relatively quiet environment (some noise from the other room), completely dark, me nice and stoned, and a close concentration on this intra-cranial sensation.

This time, I reached a level I've only gotten to with psychedelics. I could feel my entire brain buzzing, tingles flowing up and down the back of my neck, and actually quite impressive CEV's! I drank 5g of kratom earlier in the day, about 12 hours ago, and during this meditation experience I felt the peak of the kratom euphoria return in full swing, or at least that's how it felt. All I know is I started feeling really, really good, not a worry or anxious feeling in the world, and sort of felt an out-of-body sensation for lack of a better word.

I also feel like there was some sort of lasting euphoric mood lift effect after I finished that was not present earlier. It stuck with me for a good while after getting up out of bed.

Before anyone goes on blaming the kratom and weed, 5g is NOTHING, I normally dose at 15g+, plus I took it 12 hours earlier so it was mostly gone anyway. Secondly I smoke weed all day, everyday, so being stoned is pretty normal for me. Neither of these drugs have ever caused the sensations I was having and the intense CEV's I was seeing, or anything close. It's also hard to call it a flashback because it honestly feels like something all of it's own. The more I experiment with this, the less it starts to feel like ecstasy. What I just experienced most closely resembles the mind-leaving-body upward-spinning euphoria I would get with 2C-E, but even so, not the same.

This is interesting as all hell. I feel like I'm discovering things about myself through meditation... :)
 
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