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Quick Question about a Methamphetamine Users -(Sleeping Habits)

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TheStarOnIR

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I don’t use this drug, nor would I ever consider doing so. However, I am curious about something. I take Adderall here and there, essentially whenever I am able to obtain it to be fair. I have instances on occasion where I tend to stay up for 2-3 days rarely but this has happened, typically I stay up 1-2 until my body calibrates itself and becomes a bit more tolerable. Shit, even then still I find myself pulling all nighters two or three times per week on average.

So, assuming that Methamphetamine is a much more potent, yet containing similar characteristics and side-effects how do these hardcore users ever sleep? I mean I'll answer a portion of my own question here in the obviousness that they too will adequately build up a tolerance as well. In the meantime though, do these frequent users stay up weeks on end? I mean, I just can’t imagine sleeping in the beginning. A 30mg Adderall will have me sleeping every other night when I am using it. That’s after I adjust.

Can any of you reference yourself or someone you may know that has stayed up for a considerable amount of time consecutively with no stop? Lastly, when they do build up a tolerance to the drug what is the consistency of the users sleeping schedules, or sleeping habits rather?

Just curious
Thanks
 
Well my buddy said he stayed up for 2 weeks on meth and felt fine, but he is kinda a crazy mother flickers
I personally could only go 4 day's on meth.

You say you will never try meth? But you take adderall whenever you can? Well I say never say never. I once thought the same way, thought I would only do pills and never the Crystal. My friend, you are on the same track I was. Not saying it's going to ruin your life or anything.

Btw, I found adderall a lot more harsher in terms of unpleasant side effects it gave me.


I'll post a more detailed description later. My kindle is about to die.

I can't stress this enough. I have met countless people who said they would never do meth, only pills, and end up doing it sooner or later.

Most of them never end up addicted though. I
 
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Only did meth a few times, but the last time was the largest amount of doses. I took two trazodone to sleep that night and it worked, but I'd been up for a day and a half. Usually after not sleeping that long, speed aids would keep me KO'd for at least half a day. I slept for only seven hours and ate practically nothing the entire day. That day I also went to the gym because I was getting psychosis symptoms and pushed myself way to hard. Not a great idea to work out while high on stimulants. The next day after only seven hours it hurt everywhere. I lost my legs walking up the stairs one time even. Point being I put my body though so much it couldn't properly move itself. It had to be dead tired. But still I only slept for seven hours in a situation where I'd always go at least 12. Stayed up to practically 5:00AM the next day until I could finally fall asleep and it was then that I finally got my big chunk of sleep.

So once again, I don't have meth abuse-level experience as far as the effects on your sleep patterns but it did rough me up pretty hard those few days. I can absolutely understand how chronic use could lead to weeks of not sleeping. I knew a guy once who was probably twice my age and everyone thought he was a narc so no one would sell him weed. I middle manned for him from time because I enjoyed the company and we liked a lot of the same music. Anyway that guy took a lot of meth when he was younger and one time told me a story about how he went on a 19 day binge that ended with him getting taken in for a psychiatric evaluation because he was caught trying to resist a UFO abduction in public in one of the busiest areas of downtown. He passed away a few years ago so I felt obliged to share what he would have told you as well.
 
@SDforever420

When you say found Adderall’s side-effects to be much harsher- What do you mean by that exactly, please elaborate. I too find that Adderall tends to make me feel dirty if you will. Like my skin is really unhealthy feeling, I guess overall I just don’t feel nourished or adequately in good health.

However, on the other hand while I am peeking. I literally couldn't be more intuitive I am like the most perspicacious individual to date all of which I literally convey inadvertently. I am ahead of all things around me at that time. I often times amaze people when I am on it. It's almost like it opens up these untouched avenues of my brain.

For instance, I know things that I didn’t know I knew. People will make comments insinuating that I am brilliant. I become Bradley Cooper in Limitless or something; the pharmacokinetics behind these psychostimulants are truly unbelievable. Bro, in reality I am just another self-loathing negligent SOB with literally nothing to offer other than some half-ass advice on life.

It's almost a joke to me. I will surprise myself sometimes but in the grand scheme of things I know the real deal and it's all just part of the euphoria. I do believe they have some "good values" to offer if taken correctly. That’s just my opinion, which in all honesty is worth nothing at all.

I would really like to hear about some of these harsh side-effects you experienced. I have been coming down for like an hour and I feel like shit. I haven’t slept in two days. I just got them last night so I am still adjusting to the transition I guess.

At this point I can’t go to sleep, I am debating if I should take another 30 now and muscle through this day, and sleep it off starting tonight.

What do you suggest?

Thanks
 
@Brobi-Wan Kenobi

Oh yeah, it’s interesting to me. I too have heard similar stories of bizarre off the charts hallucinations due to long term sleep deprivation. I guess I am just generally interested in the pharmacokinetics of certain power drugs. It’s remarkable to me how much potential underlies with responsible use.

I believe that medicinal mitigation holds some validity in certain situations to effectively assist an individual productively. I have found recently that ADD/ADHD meds equip me with the essential elements required to have a lucrative career, and in a word "happy" lifestyle overall. In my youth when I was forced to use these types of medications I hated every aspect of its purpose. Now I guess I can appreciate the potential value it can offer.
Thanks for sharing
 
I suggest you hydrate yourself, try and eat whatever is palatable right now that will nourish you, to shower, crash, and start fresh tonight (or later ;) ).


EDIT: Just checked the time; you obviously have continued your bender. Still, the above applies.
 
TheStarOnIR said:
So, assuming that Methamphetamine is a much more potent drug, yet still containing similar characteristics and side-effects how do these hardcore users ever sleep?
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What happens to amphetamine users on binges is they're forced to microsleep:

Wikipedia said:
A microsleep is an episode of sleep which may last for a fraction of a second or up to thirty seconds.[1] Often, it is the result of sleep deprivation, mental fatigue, depression, sleep apnea, hypoxia, narcolepsy, or hypersomnia. For the sleep-deprived, microsleeping can occur at any time, typically without substantial warning.
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I remember... I was on a bender of oral methamphetamine, and a week in to it i was playing Conker's Bad Fur Day on N64 (I know, I'm getting old.) with a couple friends and I actually just passed out. I woke four hours later, alone, completely confused as I didn't remember falling asleep. After contacting my friends and asking what the hell had transpired, they told me I had just fallen unconscious and that even after slaps to the face and sternal rubs(wow) I was not waking up, so they left :|

Your body just forces you to sleep eventually. Even if you are still high.

This doesn't mean that when it happens all is gravy. When it happens, you should have been asleep days ago.
 
I find it almost impossible to sleep or eat on Adderall. I can do both much easier on meth if I don't do a large amount. Adderall made me paranoid on the first day, I have only gotten extremely paranoid off meth once, but that wasn't even the drug that did it. The house I was in was being watched. Adderall seemed to take a bigger toll on my body every time I did it. I find if the meth is good(not cut to shit) it's A LOT easier on your body.

The reason you feel so much more alert and focused on Adderall is because of the L-amp in it. It's also what causes the harsh comedown. Real meth is just D-amp, which is a lot more calm and relaxing imo.

If you enjoy that focus you get I would stick with addy. Meth is a work drug, adderall is a study drug.

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Ahhh.....micronaps :) I was playing black ops with my buddy, ZOMBIES!!!, randomly I would catch him just staring off into space then snap back out of it and continue playing. He would also say something that had nothing to do with what we were talking about or doing. I think he was dreaming and thinking out loud lol.
 
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YES-
I did continue, I did this by default really. Truthfully, it is absolutely miserable. My roommate asked me when he got up for work if I had stayed up once again. (3 days total) all of which he has gotten up to see me casually walking around, taking smoke breaks on the balcony, brewing coffee at 3:15am, all the indications of one whom would have been. Therefore, I responded yes, I asked why and he proceeded to tell me that he was a little worried about me. I don’t feel as if he should be.
So after further consideration, I thought more into it. My mind hasn't exactly changed as to whether not I feel he should be. In fact I guess I am questioning it myself. Should he in fact be worried about me, but much more importantly than that should I be worried about me?
I'd love to get you guy’s opinion on this whole worrisome deal. I am beyond delirious, I am actually shocked by myself, that, and a little bit impressed with the fact I am still able to make any sense whatsoever. I am re-reading them; I have noticed I am off a bit, not significantly noticeable in my opinion. I have caught several simple errors in punctuation. I know that sounds ridiculous to even consider but I am not one to make mistakes in that respect.
So in conclusion- When should one be worried?
#1- When should one worry about the duration of the bender in regard to becoming at high-risk for serious health effects?
#2- When should one worry about frequency. What would indicate that of an individual perhaps developing an addiction or dependency to this realm of medication?
Harsh and polite answers/ opinions are more than welcome I can’t be bothered. I never take things personal whether they are or aren’t.
Thank You
 
This type of question more truly belongs in Basic Drug Discussion; as such, I will move it there for you :)

TDS >>> BDD

~ Vaya
 
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