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quick advice for purchasing test kit please?

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i poasted this in pill testing q&a but it seems like nobody goes in there so im posting it here also seeing as i need some quick advice. i need some quick advice on buying a test kit, im ready to purchase one but im not sure where the best place to do so would be. dancesafe or ez test? or maybe somewhere else? I want e very reliable test kit that will test for mdxx, meth, and pipes, preferably the most elaberate test kit. also does anybody know how long it takes for dancesafe to ship and are they the oly ones that sale the full jars of testing liquid? thanks a lot bl peeps, im finally stepping up to testing grounds. ill post good test results on pillreports!!
 
Nice thread my friend a great HR discussion.

but im not sure where the best place to do so would be. dancesafe or ez test?
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Of the two I would say dance safe as they are better value for money. The EZ kits are individual test doses. The company are poor communicators and their website sucks. The dance safe test has several uses from one reagent bottle.

The only thing is you have to be careful about the DS kit as if you spill it you could trash what ever you spill it on or burn someone. It contains very high strength Sulphuric Acid.

I want e very reliable test kit that will test for mdxx, meth, and pipes, preferably the most elaberate test kit.
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Only EZ have a specific pipe test. However, I am told if you read your reactions right you can sniff out a pipe.

Depends how elaborate you want to go? marquis is the best all rounder.

Mecke, marquis and Simons will sniff out more.

DS dont do mandalin for some reason.

Check out this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pill_testing

or maybe somewhere else?
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an australian dude

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ecstasy-P...28?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item27cb2e2760

also does anybody know how long it takes for dancesafe to ship and are they the oly ones that sale the full jars of testing liquid?
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they are from usa so depends on your location.

are they the only ones that sale the full jars of testing liquid?
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no the ebay dude posted above. Please update this thread if you find other sources.


On the topic of reagents I find the whole market a bit limited. I think EZ truly suck. I am currently researching other reagents to sniff out piperazines as I had my life destroyed by them.

Hope this helps you out.

Here is my research folder on the topic:

http://www.4shared.com/folder/L8WEYTGv/MDMA_Testing.html

Please update your thread if you find more info you can share.

Good luck thank you for contributing to the community with your test results.
 
futura thank you very very much for such a prompt and informative respnce! i will upadate with any useful info i come across.
 
the australian dude sounds like a great deal, you get simons a and b with the kit also, and its $20 cheaper than ds. hmmm
 
thanks folley, does dancesafe ship quickly? did you see the australian guys site? it looks legit, but i live in the US. i wonder if it'll get stuck in customs or something like it says on the site.
 
futura thank you very very much for such a prompt and informative respnce!
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Your welcome my friend. Anything I can do to help people from suffering as I have.

Finally you said you wanted some detail. In my research I found this comprehensive post info. Check it out.


Drug Reagents

Reagents are used to test drugs before you use them. A reagent usually can't prove a drug is the correct drug, and it can never prove how pure it is. But it can prove that something you have is NOT the drug you think it is, and give you a fairly good idea of what it could be.

It is VERY important for people using chemicals and MDMA tabs to test them. I know one dude who was supposed to get methylone from a vendor and he got DOI. He would have easily died if he could not tell the difference. A few vendors have also sent bunk and who knows what the hell that is. Another mix up I know of was PCP and Novocaine. Some MDMA tabs (none online I have heard of) contain PMA instead of MDMA, and PMA is really dangerous shit.


Reagent Name: Marquis Test

REAGENT PREPARATION


Reagent 1: Add 8-10 drops (approx. 0.25 ml) of 37% formaldehyde solution to 10 ml of glacial acetic acid.

Reagent 2: Concentrated sulphuric acid.

PROCEDURE

- Place a small amount (1-2 mg of powder, or 1-2 drops of a liquid) of the suspected material in a depression on a spot plate.

- Add one drop of Reagent 1, then one drop of Reagent 2, and stir.

- Observe the color of the mixture.



Reagent Name: Mecke Test

REAGENT PREPARATION

Reagent: Dissolve 1 g selenious acid in 100 ml conc. sulfuric acid.

PROCEDURE

- Place a small amount (1-2 mg of powder, or 1-2 drops of a liquid) of the suspected material in a small test tube.

- Add one drop of Mecke Reagent.

- Observe the color of the mixture.


Reagent Name: Simon’s Test

REAGENT PREPARATION

reagent 1: Dissolve 2 g of sodium carbonate in 100 ml of water
(=2% aqueous sodium carbonate solution).

Reagent 2: Dissolve 0.9 g of sodium nitroprusside in 90 ml of water (=1% aqueous sodium nitroprusside solution).

Reagent 3: Mix 10 ml of acetaldehyde solution and 10 ml of ethanol (=50% (v/v) ethanolic acetaldehyde solution).

PROCEDURE

- Place a small amount (1-2 mg of powder, or 1-2 drops of a liquid) of the suspected material in a depression on a spot plate.

- Add one drop of Reagent 1 and stir.

- Add one drop of Reagent 2, and then one drop of Reagent 3.

- Observe the color of the mixture.


Reagent Name: Gallic Acid Test

REAGENT PREPARATION

Reagent: Dissolve 0.1 g of gallic acid in 20 ml of concentrated sulphuric acid (=0.5% (w/v) solution)

PROCEDURE

- Place a small amount (1-2 mg of powder, or 1-2 drops of a liquid) of the suspected material in a small test tube.

- Add one drop of Gallic Acid Reagent.

- Observe the color of the mixture.


Reagent Name: Erlich's Test (aka PDMAB Test)

REAGENT PREPARATION

Reagent: Dissolve 0.5 g p-dimethylaminobenzaledehyde (p-DMAB) in 50 ml ethanol and 50 ml conc. hydrochloric acid.

PROCEDURE

- Place a small amount (1-2 mg of powder, or 1-2 drops of a liquid) of the suspected material in a small test tube.

- Add one drop of Erlich's Reagent.

- Observe the color of the mixture.

Reagent Name: Chen's Test

REAGENT PREPARATION

Reagent 1: Add 1 ml of glacial acetic acid to 100 ml of water (=1% (v/v) aqueous acetic acid solution).

Reagent 2: Dissolve 1 g of copper (II) sulphate in 100 ml of water (=1% (w/v) aqueous CuSO4 solution).

Reagent 3: Dissolve 8 g of sodium hydroxide in 100 ml of water (=2N aqueous sodium hydroxide solution).

PROCEDURE

- Place a small amount (1-2 mg of powder, or 1-2 drops of a liquid) of the suspected material in a depression on a spot plate.

- Add 2 drops of Reagent 1.

- Add 2 drops of Reagent 2, then add 2 drops of Reagent 3 and stir.

- Observe the color of the mixture.


Reagent Name: Mandelin Test

REAGENT PREPARATION


Reagent: Suspend 1 g of finely powdered ammonium vanadate in 100 ml of concentrated sulfuric acid (relative density 1.86).


PROCEDURE

- Place a small amount (1-2 mg of powder, or 1-2 drops of a liquid) of the suspected material in a small test tube.

- Add one drop of Mandelin Reagent.

- Observe the color of the mixture.


Reagent Name: Sodium Nitroprusside Test


REAGENT PREPARATION

Reagent 1: Mix 25 ml of a 1% sodium nitroprusside solution with 1 ml acetaldehyde.

Reagent 2: 2% sodium carbonate solution.

PROCEDURE

- Place a small amount (1-2 mg of powder, or 1-2 drops of a liquid) of the suspected material in a depression on a spot plate.

- Add one drop of Reagent 1 and stir.

- Add one drop of Reagent 2.

- The color is formed immediately after Reagent 2 is added.






COLOR TEST CHARTS

2c-b

Marquis: Yellow/green
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

2c-c

Marquis: Yellow/Green
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

2c-e

Marquis: Yellow/brown
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

2c-i

Marquis: Dark Green
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

2c-n

Marquis: Dark Brown, gas evolution and green ring forms around brown center
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

2c-t-2

Marquis: Orange
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR
Mecke: Purple

2c-t-21

Marquis: Pink
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR
Mecke: Purple

DOB

Marquis: Yellow/Green
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

DOC

Marquis: Dark Green
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

DOI

Marquis: Dark Green
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

DOM

Marquis: Yellow
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

DOET

Marquis: Yellow/Brown
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

DMA

Marquis: Dark Green
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

n,n-DimethylA

Marquis: Orange/Brown
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

MDA

Marquis: Dark Blue/Black
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: Green

MDMA

Marquis: Dark blue / Black
Simons: Deep Blue
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: Green

MMDA

Marquis: Purple
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: Green

PMA

Marquis: NR to light green
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

TMA

Marquis: Orange/Red
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

Amphetamine

Marquis: Orange brown
Simons: NR
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

Meth

Marquis: Orange/Brown
Simons: Deep Blue
Chens: NR
Gallic Acid: NR

Cathinone

Marquis: NR
Simons: NR
Chens: Yellow/Orange
Gallic Acid: NR

Methcathinone

Marquis: NR
Simons: Light Blue
Chens: Orange
Gallic Acid: NR

Ephedrine

Marquis: NR
Simons: NR
Chens: Purple
Gallic Acid: NR

Pseudoephedrine

Marquis: NR
Simons: NR
Chens: Purple
Gallic Acid: NR

DXM

Marquis: Grey w/gas
Mecke: Yellow

Ketamine

Mandelin: Light Brown

n,n-DPT HCL

Marquis: Yellow
Erlichs: Violet

5-Meo-DMT

Marquis: Yellow to Black
Erlichs: Purple to Blue

5-Meo-Mipt

Marquis: Yellow to black
Erlichs: Purple to light blue

5-meo-dipt HCL

Marquis: Yellow To black
Erlichs: Purple to Blue

5-Meo-AMT HCL

Marquis: Yellow to Black
Erlichs: Purple to Blue
Sodium Nitroprusside: Cherry Red

n-Methyltryptamine

Sodium Nitroprusside: Purple

AMT

Sodium Nitroprusside: Cherry Red
 
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ok futura i tried to order from dancesafe but the site was having problems and wouldnt let me finish creating an account, a message kept popping up suggesting that i try again later, anyways i need to get this kit ordered asap so i went with the australian dude. the kit comes with all five reagents for $54.00 US dollars shipped so wth, ill let you all know how well it works as soon as it comes in, i have a bunk pill to test which i infortunately consumed recently, also i should be able to test some legit pressies soon, so fingers crossed this kit is a good reliable one.

oh and thanks again for all the in depth info futura, would you mind sharing your bad pill experience with us in the sake of harm reduction? stay safe friends!!
 
Don't bother trying to make your own reagent... it's be more reliable to just buy them.
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Some users have reported worries about legality ordering reagents. Possible rave or drug parophanalia.

I think making reagents is interesting info.

Ordering sulphuric acid and formaldehyde would certainly not be drug parophanalia and would for sure be a lot cheaper. You can buy both chemicals easily off ebay with no legality issues.

For the $25 fee on DS you could have 1 litre of marquis for approx the same price. This would last you a life time. Or at least I would hope so :D

Why would buying a test kit be any more reliable? You only have to mix two chemicals.

plus also DS have a very limited range only three available tests. Some of the tests listed above you would have to make otherwise there is no other way of getting it.

The idea of this thread is to explore a bit lets not limit ourselves to DS and EZ. The reagents have way more scope than either of the info posted on their sites.

Once you venture away from DS and EZ the topic is vast. There are literally hundreds of possible tests.

There are likely reagents out there that no one has even discovered. Imagine a reagent that could reliabley test for pipes.

Imagine a reagent that could colour id certain coctails.

Or one that could colour ID certain strengths of MD**

Its all about experimentation. Ordering your own chemicals is a great start in the road to self experimentation and I believe should be actively encouraged.
 
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lol.. Well I'm pretty sure the OP just wanted to know what was the best reagent to buy, and in my experience, dancesafe is certainly the best


If you want to use this thread to explore the reagents though, then by all means, go ahead... the Mandelin and Robadope tests are two important ones that Dancesafe doesn't have, but in reality, you probably only need the marquis to make sure your stuff isn't adulterated.

all those other reagents come handy if you're trying to identify RCs or other chemicals though
 
lol.. Well I'm pretty sure the OP just wanted to know what was the best reagent to buy, and in my experience, dancesafe is certainly the best
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Personally I think they suck. The Op has just reported the website doesnt work. there is a chap on ebay who offers the same service.

They bleet on about the dangers of PMMA

http://dancesafe.org/blogs/pmma-linked-5-deaths-calgary-least-1-bc

And then dont sell a kit that will detect it.

This is there published colour test:

MDxA - purple to black
Speed - orange
DXM - grey to black, releases a slight bit of smoke
2C-B - Yellow to green over 30 seconds
2C-T-x - Orange to salmon
MDPV, methylone - Yellow
6-APB - Rusty brown


By the way cheers for the link I never even knew that existed on Bluelight. That is great info to add to the research.

have you ever tried making a reagent test? looks pretty simple. And heaps cheaper than DS.

oh and thanks again for all the in depth info futura, would you mind sharing your bad pill experience with us in the sake of harm reduction? stay safe friends!!
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MDMA and Piperazine. To be avoided at all cost. Unfortunately there isnt really an accurate test for it. EZ do one but some report it isnt so good.
 
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futura2012 said:
have you ever tried making a reagent test? looks pretty simple. And heaps cheaper than DS.
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There's no need... I certainly don't test that many substances, and not to mention I don't have sulfuric acid laying around LOL


and as for the PMMA test, they do actually have one, but I guess it's not available to the public..? I know StaySafe (dancesafe off shoot) uses Mandelin tests at events, and I know they were putting together a reagent to test for PMMA.. but I guess they just never got it out there..?


PMMA isn't that common anyways.. with a Marquis, Mecke and Simons, I don't see how you could go wrong. Again, all those extra tests are just handy when you're trying to identify chemicals that are not MDMA, MDA, 2C-x or meth/amphetamine



Dancesafe is a company based here in Seattle. They ship your kit quick, and the reagents are always new. Since reagents can expire in a year, that's very important. Overall I just know many, many people who are satisfied with Dancesafe, including myself, so I'll continue to recommend their kits over all the others.... I do wish they had more variety, but for the layman, they're perfect.
 
There's no need... I certainly don't test that many substances, and not to mention I don't have sulfuric acid laying around LOL
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Sulphuric acid is dead easy to buy from ebay.

PMMA isn't that common anyways.. with a Marquis, Mecke and Simons, I don't see how you could go wrong. Again, all those extra tests are just handy when you're trying to identify chemicals that are not MDMA, MDA, 2C-x or meth/amphetamine
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I am surprised why they choose Simons over Mandalin. maybe its cheaper I have no idea?

PMMA isnt common but its lethal. Why they have no test for it is a contradiction to what they say on their site.

Dancesafe is a company based here in Seattle. They ship your kit quick, and the reagents are always new. Since reagents can expire in a year, that's very important. Overall I just know many, many people who are satisfied with Dancesafe, including myself, so I'll continue to recommend their kits over all the others.... I do wish they had more variety, but for the layman, they're perfect.
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I dont disagree with your advice as a good source for a test kit. They are clearly a reliable company and offer a good service. The test kit is a sensible fair price.

Why I think they are poor is because the info on the site is seriousley lacking.

They totally understate the colour tests as shown by that awesome link you posted.

They should offer more reagents.

I doubt there is much profit in reagents so I guess this is likely the motive.
 
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