Questions regarding HCG

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I'm starting week 4 of a Havoc cycle and although Havoc is hardly suppressive, I feel as if my testicles have already atrophied a slight bit...I have no experience with HCG and I want to run some possibly during my cycle and definately after...I have a few ?'s...

I'm only going to order 2000 iu as I feel I don't even really need it, I just want to experiment...

How do I go about mixing and dosing?

What dosages should I take?

I'm going to order it premixed in a vial...So I'm assuming it wont have water....how many mls of water do i put in?
 
During a test cycle, most suggest taking 800-1000iu EW. I think you can get away with lowering it a bit since your not running that hard of a cycle. I'd suggest running at least 600iu EW (split in 2).

Mixing is easy, it usually contains the solution to reconstitute it. You will need more than 2000iu for any effect. I don't suggest ordering a premixed vial as they are usually FAR under-dosed. Look gor Pregnyl HCG, that's what you want. Avoid that pre-made Chinese crap that you have no clue what's in it. Oh, and it always has to be kept in the fridge, mixed or not.

/V
 
^^^^^^^^That Q&A thing says "hcg aromatizes into estrogen in the testes". Does it? I don't see a sterane backbone on hcg.
 
^hCG causes a natural test spike which means there's more natural testosterone converting to oestrogen.

But no hCG does not aromatise, it is a peptide hormone, but hCG can cause oestrogen sides by the mechanism mentioned in my first sentence.
 
^you sir are a fool. Can you tell me the mechanism by which hCG (a glycoprotein) converts to oestrogen (organic molecule)?
A lot of the information on steroid sites, once it has been interpreted and rewritten a second and third time by someone without a scientific background loses a lot of nuance, and they may even have the overall picture correct: hCG can cause an oestrogen spike and the resulting side effects, but the underlying mechanism is comically misunderstood by the layman. A bit like a small child saying that plants grow tall because the sun makes them happy.

From wiki:

High levels of AASs, that mimic the body's natural testosterone, trigger the hypothalamus to shut down its production of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus. Without GnRH, the pituitary gland stops releasing luteinizing hormone (LH). LH normally travels from the pituitary via the blood stream to the testes, where it triggers the production and release of testosterone. Without LH, the testes shut down their production of testosterone. In males, hCG helps restore and maintain testosterone production in the testes by mimicking LH and triggering the production and release of testosterone.

Regarding hCG being able to aromatise via the aromatase enzyme...aromatising is a chemical process in which the outer orbital electrons of a carbon ring become delocalised causing a more secure bond. Can you show me where these bonds are on the metabolite of hCG once it has been processed by aromatase?
 
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