Questions on the first cyclemy train

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Hello again

Ouch! Typing error on the title of thread. Posting here again a bit sooner than I thought I would. I obtained an electronic copy of the William Llewelyn's Anabolics (as suggested) from a guy that goes to my gym. First thing to advise is that it was the 6th edition and not the 10th, so some of the information may have been revised. I read all the introductory parts, about PCT, the steroids I intend to take, and the PCT drugs. The first thing I would like to ask about the recommended first cycle in the sticky is about the dosage of Dianabol. In the profile it says amazing results can be obtained from this steroid, but says this can be obtained from a dosage of 20-25mg, and that dosages over this are likely only to increase the side affects. The sticky recommends dosage of 50mg. Does the Armidex largely stop the side effects or is there a reason the larger dosage is recommended?

The second question is about the PCT which is a continued intake of the Armidex, plus Nolva and Clomid. My understanding is that these are all estrogenic drugs and the book says that estrogenic drugs alone are growing to be ineffective and suggests taking HCG. It talks about the PotWell PCT program which he considers an ideal PCT. This includes taking HCG for the first 11 days. He said this stimulates the the family jewels back into action. Has this been updated as I have seen a lot of talk about HCG before?

Thanks heaps again. That's about it fro the moment. Cheers.
 
DO not keep taking the Adex into the PCT, it will just lead to a rebound effect with your Estro levels,. Read the PCT section of the your first cycle sticky. I would not worry about HCG, unless your cycle is really long or like me you blast and cruise. It can really lead to another type of suppression.

The dosages in Anabolics is for Human Grade gear, so they are lower. from UGLs 50mg seems to be the standard.As long as your Adex is good, and taken at .5mg/EOD you should be seeing a reduction of most of the sides that is of course if your diet and training are on par. You really can not go wrong with the your first cycle sticky Guido really knows his shit mate.
 
Read about the difference between human grade and what I will be getting but forgot the impact of that. The book was a great read. Bit short sighted and realise it wasn't the PotWell program it is the PoWeR program. Not doubting any advice I get from here. Just a memory screw up with the Adex.

The book used a few different terms to what appears to be used commonly, but has saved me asking a heap of dumb questions here. I still have dumb questions to come as I try and sort out my diet and training program though.

Completely irrelevant, but geeze this site logs you out fast. Have to log in again to submit a post. Thanks again.
 
No dumb questions man. The only dumb question is the one not asked.

From my readings a lot of people suggest trying out 20-30mg/day of dbol to test the waters as some people get incredible painful pumps from it/the lab actually dosed the tabs/caps properly.

During pct a suicidal AI is recommended such as aromasin - exemestane. All your questions, ask away. You're already doing better than half of the newbies who post here. So props to you and welcome to SD.
 
This is true you are ahead of the game mate, and Sero is right, the only question that is dumb is the one you don't ask.
 
I'd agree that 40-50mg is a decent starting dose, even if it wasn't UG lab stuff (and actually UG Dbol is often overdosed, cos raw DBol is cheap as chips, so overdosing makes a certain companies product look superior. This is unlike say Masteron or Tren, where the raw material is very expensive and means they are often not all that they claim).

As for the anastrazole, I would recommend that you actually continue it into PCT for the first 3 of the 4 weeks. This will suppress much of the oestrogen that would result from rising levels of natural testosterone that appear in the later weeks of your PCT, speeding up recovery, and allowing the Nolva/Clomid to get on with its business without competition at the ER. By coming off in the last week, you are still protected from any rebound (which, even so, is pretty unlikely to occur coming off a cycle as your test levels just won't be high enough to cause a flood of test > aromatase > oestrogen).
 
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