Questions for users of IV tar heroin

[Hendrix Haze15]

I'm amazed that with so many people on here who are from southern cali, no one has been able to get ahold of any brown powder. I live in so cal as well, orange county to be exact and have a few connects in Los Angeles (downtown and south central LA) who only deal with brown powder heroin. It's usually a lighter brown to beige color. Gives a very good rush(better than any tar I'v had) and dissolves very easy. It's sold in $5 balloons. I'm really surprised no one on here as come across these. Pretty much all the junkies I know in LA get this stuff as it kicks the shit out of tar.

 

[johanneschimpo]

Santa Barbara area here.

never seen powder.
See tar every day.
Thats all I have to say regarding that. You have some mean hookups I guess.

 

[djtamperfree]

i am hooked

wow,
this is a perfect find for me at this time in my life. ive been IV black tar for the last 5 weeks daily. i have had one day off in the entire 5 weeks. i try to use with some moderation trying to limit myself to 1/4-1/3 of a gram each day; spread over 4-5 shots at this point im doing it to not be sick, being sick is the worse thing in the world, each shot is a maintence shot keeping me on the leel thru the day. ive recently got in significant trouble due to my heroin addiction and am at a personal crossroads with what i should do. ive never been a bad junkie. i always pay for my own shit, ive got enough money, i share, ive never stole or ripped anyone off, im a good persona and i dont diserve to be in so much trouble just for being a drug addict, anyway.
i shoot a chunk about the size as a tick tack, like the guy aabove me said. i use bottled water cause im too lazy to use distilled. i use a new needle every two shots, 31 gauge 8mm 1cc needles, i use about half a cc of water, let it dissolve under heat, bring it to a quick boil, throw in qtip cotton, draw, then add a few drops of water back to the spoon, get remainder of tar disssolved back in water, quick boil, draw thru cotton, alcohol pad, belt wrapped around either arm, and blast! when i was forcebly removed from the junk i missed the blood being pulled back in to the rig, watching the stream of red stream thru the brown liquid is such a beatuiful sight. im sick. its a sight followed by immense pleasure.
ive been to chicago and have used china white, really beige and off white and it is better quality than the tar we get here in the SW. however i had a good connect and on our last deal he gave me 2.7g for 100$ thats the best deal ive ever seen. so im trying to make it last. i want to come clean of the dope soon. i need to be more alert and cant afford to be sloppy. much respect and love...

 

[Cerp]

I'm amazed that with so many people on here who are from southern cali, no one has been able to get ahold of any brown powder. I live in so cal as well, orange county to be exact and have a few connects in Los Angeles (downtown and south central LA) who only deal with brown powder heroin. It's usually a lighter brown to beige color. Gives a very good rush(better than any tar I'v had) and dissolves very easy. It's sold in $5 balloons. I'm really surprised no one on here as come across these. Pretty much all the junkies I know in LA get this stuff as it kicks the shit out of tar.

Where do you score, off the bums in the streets? I think I know what stuff you are talking about, as I have had it myself. The stuff in the balloons are in a "powder" form, but aren't really powder heroin; it's simply a piece of tar that has been crushed up into a powder. Pdx already explained it, but in a nutshell the difference of powder and tar types of heroin aren't based on physical appearance, it's based on how the heroin was made; basically tar heroin is not put through a cleaning process.

The cleaning process is the final step in the manufacturing process which is done after the morphine is converted into heroin. Cleaning the heroin removes undesirables such as other opium alkaloids like noscapine, papaverine, (acetyl?)codeine, and thebaine (could be wrong) as well as other junk that may be in it. The result of cleaning the heroin is yielding a less however much more potent amount, which is why "powder" is typically stronger than tar (without factoring cuts) mg per mg.

 

[djtamperfree]

i just use cotton from a q-tip to filter directly to the rig i use. should i be using a micron filter? i dont know where to obtain one. where could i get one? im a daily IV user of tar, that has plenty of cut rising in the water, since i have an reletively unpure product do i need to be using better filtration than just a cotton filter??? please let me know soon

 

[johanneschimpo]

^ yeah. as we all know, IVing isnt 'safe' but you can make it 'safer' by using a micron filter rather than cotton. Its a good idea and I use them every time I hit it up (minus the first few times before I knew what they were)

plenty of places online sell them, filter needles are much easier to use and less wasteful than the disk (ufo-shaped) filters. somebody here should be able to give you a link to a site to buy some.

shoot safely!

 

[twgburst]

www.getpinz.com

I think the reason they only make tar in Mexico is because of lack of chemicals, I don't think it has anything to do with lack of knowledge, as making powder heroin is very easy, and you would think at least some people would be doing it. Though you never know, maybe it is lack of info. Either way, those Mexicans need to get their shit together and stop making garbage. Also, this thread was bumped 3 times from the dead, how the hell isn't this archieved?

 

[silverfucked]

im in nashville and a 10 is about as strong as OC40...

I cooked, and if you did not use a cotton then the shit would not pull up in the barrel. It reeks of vinegar, esp. when cooking and looks like what comes out of my ass detoxing once its in the barrel.. brown water that you cannot see thru.. if you can, you got a weak shot.. even a full cc and the shit is muddy.

After shooting it puts a liquor like taste in your mouth/nose before the rush..

It will dissolve in water without heat if you feel like waiting 10 minutes. When cooked there are black chunks that do not dissolve... It also leaves a permanent residue on the spoon that does not dissolve, or scrape up.. Ive always had to use most of the barrels worth of water to get the full shot to dissolve, making it hard to register if you're in a vein.

I also have a missed shot sitting in my arm that you can feel.. Like a knot... Just sitting there... IM guess all the H dissolved, but whatever cuts manage to get thru just wont dissappear.

 

[hunterrose]

I'm in Orange County and I haven't seen ANYthing lately. Am I doing something wrong is OC totally clean? We're not that far from Mexico so I'd be surprised if it wasn't around in some form, but nobody seems to have anything but marijuana these days.

 

[smackem]

dea website tests tar and they average to around 60% some as high as 75% PURE HEROIN. when not properly stored much degrades in 6-mar. Look in the microbulliten when they tested a 10yr old tar sample that was stored properly, vs wasn't store properly.

 

[twgburst]

That seems a little high, I always thought tar was usually in the 20-30% range.

 

[djtamperfree]

i believe that a lot of tar out there is 50% to 70% pure. ive had china in chicago that was out of this world, we scorded a few times and every time we scored it was incredible. however a lot of this tar that ive been shooting every day had to be in a higher up percentile. i cant make an educated guess, so it would be strupid to throw up a number that i thought it could be. ive used 5 different types of tar within the past 6 weeks, the stuff i have now is the second best. there is some cut left in the spoon, i'd say 1-2% of the chunk of tar, this is a little more cut than i'd like. anyway, some of this tar that ive scored is almost as good as the stuff i got in chicago. although its hard to come across really really good tar when you do it is just as good as china. good tar is the best thing since sliced bread;

 

[djtamperfree]

silverfucked,
sounds like you got a bad batch. with my potent tar i try and keep my oversized dangerously large shots to under 6 tenths of a cc of water, total liquid. if it is that difficult to cook, to dissolve, and smells that bad i dont recomend shooting it up. dont risk shooting somthing that is very potentially dirty, cut and unpure.
also practice taking IV shots. u dont want to be missing with chemicals, it could lead to certain complications. go in at a angle that is almaost parallel to your arm, use a turniqute, rubbing alcohol, and make sure to pul back the plunger just a little bit to make sure that the blood pulls back into the rig, watch the blood stream into the rig stating that the needle is inside the vien.
careful silverfucked

 

[silverfucked]

dude the shot registered and i had managed to dissolve a 20 in 20 units of water and by the time i felt the sting of it going into my muscle it was gone. left a big lump in my arm that has reduced about 90% in size, but there is still something sitting there... it looks like i broke pencil lead off in my arm... its not infected though..

i spent a few throughly washing my arms after that...

as for a bad batch, it may have bad cuts, but IMO the best dope always smells like vinegar.. at least in TN. I was scoring white in knoxville and it blew... cut to shit. its much harder to cut tar.. and when it is, you can see it... random off color spots.

the taste off of this guys dope is strong and a 20 will still give me a ringer in my ears(sucks walking out of a public bathroom while thats happening) and unable to walk till the "dope settles in". The cuts suck, but its def. got a high %.

I'm off though, cuz it was actually making my methadone detoxes worse! I'd get high and all the detoxing I had done would start from the very beggining the next day, and i realised that shooting dope was drawing out my detoxes. Im on house arrest and kicking. Ive managed to split 100mg of methadone over 6 days, and though im sick, im functionable.

 

[silverfucked]

I've also found that the harder the tar the better... the gooey shit is usually weaker than the stuck that literally breaks apart... hard and sticky like and old jolly rancher.

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

OK, I'm not a tar user, or even a heroin user, but I have something to add. I believe tar heroin is acetylated crude morphine base, not acetylated opium.

To make tar heroin opium is dissolved in warm water and calcium hydroxide is added. Solution is filtered then ammonium chloride is added and crude morphine base precipitates, this product is then refluxed with acetic anhydride somehow.

However, to make powder heroin you have to dissolve this crude morphine base in to hydrochloric acid then clean it with activated charcol. Solution is then evaporated leaving morphine hydrochloride. This can then be refluxed with acetic anhydride and sodium carbonate is added to make heroin base (number three) precipitate from solution. To make number four this is then dissolved in hydrochloric acid and the water evaporated off.

Obviously I'm dealing with second hand information, but hopefully this is accurate and I have provided a bit of an insight.

 

[twgburst]

I know that there is tar thats 70%, I was talking about the average tar being less than 30%. Maybe you ment in your state, which still seems on the high side. I know that tar can be pretty pure, but its got too many other chemicals in it to have that high of a % of heroin, including 3-mono-actylmorphine and actyly-codeine and all sorts of other impurities cause of a shit job cooking.

 

[Hendrix Haze15]

I'm in Orange County and I haven't seen ANYthing lately. Am I doing something wrong is OC totally clean? We're not that far from Mexico so I'd be surprised if it wasn't around in some form, but nobody seems to have anything but marijuana these days.

I hope this isn't against guidelines, as I'm not giving any sources, but trust me hunterrose, Santa Ana and Anaheim are full of dope.