fallbondler
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Hi, I'm new here and couldn't find a thread with what I was looking for. If there are any rules I'm not following etc let me know.
I'm experienced with drugs of almost all categories except opiates. I've tried oxy twice recently (40mg both times) and had a few questions about it as well as other opiates:
Immediate vs Extended Release
I've used the ER version but I know that the peak effects are much stronger with IR, which seems much more rare. I've heard that some types of ER pills can be crushed into powder which basically turns them into IR, but some can't. I'm only really interested in oral dosing, rather than insufflating etc. My questions are:
1) Are crushed ERs basically the same as IRs?
2) Does crushing IRs increase the intensity even further?
3) How can you tell whether an ER pill can be made into an IR or not? (I saw something about dissolving it in water?)
4) Surely crushing an ER pill will always increase the intensity of the effects regardless?
Combinations
The second time I used oxy I cut up the pill into small pieces, I noticed a faster and stronger onset with a higher peak. I also vaporized some cannabis which seemed to enhance the effects. The first time I was 'nodding' towards the end but fought the urge to sleep for as long as possible. When I went to bed eventually I had terrible insomnia, itching, gurning etc and didn't get anything resembling sleep until about 6am. It was similar to trying to sleep after using a stimulant like amphetamines or MDMA, where I would usually use around 30mg of valium. The second time wasn't as bad but I still didn't get to sleep until around 7am. My questions are:
6) Are there any other pleasant combinations with opiates which aren't dangerous?
7) Is it safe/helpful to take an antihistamine (something like benadryl) to reduce the itching?
8 ) Would it be safe to take 10-30mg of valium to fall asleep?
Sorry for the long post, or if these questions have been answered elsewhere. Any help would be great!
I'm experienced with drugs of almost all categories except opiates. I've tried oxy twice recently (40mg both times) and had a few questions about it as well as other opiates:
Immediate vs Extended Release
I've used the ER version but I know that the peak effects are much stronger with IR, which seems much more rare. I've heard that some types of ER pills can be crushed into powder which basically turns them into IR, but some can't. I'm only really interested in oral dosing, rather than insufflating etc. My questions are:
1) Are crushed ERs basically the same as IRs?
2) Does crushing IRs increase the intensity even further?
3) How can you tell whether an ER pill can be made into an IR or not? (I saw something about dissolving it in water?)
4) Surely crushing an ER pill will always increase the intensity of the effects regardless?
Combinations
The second time I used oxy I cut up the pill into small pieces, I noticed a faster and stronger onset with a higher peak. I also vaporized some cannabis which seemed to enhance the effects. The first time I was 'nodding' towards the end but fought the urge to sleep for as long as possible. When I went to bed eventually I had terrible insomnia, itching, gurning etc and didn't get anything resembling sleep until about 6am. It was similar to trying to sleep after using a stimulant like amphetamines or MDMA, where I would usually use around 30mg of valium. The second time wasn't as bad but I still didn't get to sleep until around 7am. My questions are:
6) Are there any other pleasant combinations with opiates which aren't dangerous?
7) Is it safe/helpful to take an antihistamine (something like benadryl) to reduce the itching?
8 ) Would it be safe to take 10-30mg of valium to fall asleep?
Sorry for the long post, or if these questions have been answered elsewhere. Any help would be great!
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