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Questions for a first time Shroomer :D

RichardMooner

RichardMooner

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Hi everyone! This is my first post/thread on Bluelight and I have a few or really just a couple questions about tripping on the o' so magical mushroom. For starters, I'm growing my own shrooms to ensure not only good quality and potency, but you cannot pick them wild where I live and because the only 'drug dealers' in my shit hole town are tweakers I don't really feel comfortable buying them from an unknown source. I'm also into breeding reptiles and growing exotic plants so I think it'll be a cool experience. It's pretty cold here in the month of January, but should be warming up here around March and that's when I plan doing them since I expect it to be at least two months before the mushrooms have fully fruited. Anyway, I'm fourteen and plan on doing them with my bestfriend who is fifteen. I obviously don't want to do them at home, not because of my parents, I live in a completely separate part of the house as my Mom and her Boyfriend, but because I'm not big on the whole 'get high and watch cartoons' thing. Even when I smoke weed I like going to a park, or walking on a trail. Just makes the whole thing more enjoyable. I know that weed and mushrooms are two completely different drugs, but as far as I understand, surroundings, and the people you're with are really what make a shroom trip. I plan on going down to a local nature trail and setting up a nice comfortable spot close enough to the river to hear the running water. My problem is that there are commonly people walking on the trail, and even though we will be down in the woods a ways, I don't want to be like screaming and naked or something and get the police called on me. Haha. I also don't plan on staying there the whole time and would like to walk some more of the trail during the comedown and possibly go to an old Victorian house to examine the architecture that I'm so deeply in love with. So I'm basically wondering whether 1. It is a good idea to be so close to a river, 2. If there are the occasional peoples walking 100-200ft above me will it be a problem, and 3. If that isn't a problem, will walking to the house (Which is not too far away from the spot I have in mind) be a problem? Oh, and will taking some anti-nausea liquid help for the stomach issues? I have gastroparethis and any increase in stomach acid could really fuck me over for the day, so should I just take some extra gastro intestinal medicine as well? Thanks in advance to anyone that will so kindly answer my questions. :)
 
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I'd say let yourself peak in a comfortable setting, then go for a walk once you're sure how you feel on them.
Shrooms can make you feel very strange and more susceptible to give into panicked mindsets, moreso than other psychedelics imo.
However your attitude towards drug use and even harm reduction through growing them yourself is remarkably mature for someone of 14, although I'm not here to start debate on whether you're too young to begin dabbling in psychedelics

Being close to a river or near people is perfectly fine as long as you can handle your trip. Don't take too high of a dosage and you'll be fine, shrooms do fuck you up but not quite like you think.
I also see not problem with taking an extra dosage of your gastro meds, I don't believe shrooms cause an increase in acid production. Although nausea is common it is likely through stimulation of 5-HT receptors in the stomach
 
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Thank you for your answers.(: The "Naked and yelling" thing was mainly a joke. I plan on taking about a gram at first and then increasing the dosage if needed or wanted after I know how I feel. I don't think I will exceed 1.5 grams for my first time though. At first I was very wary of my age and the use of psychedelics (shrooms in particular) due to their nature and ability to alter ones reality. I honestly don't know what my friend wants to try them for, but he's intelligent enough to make his own decisions so I will not decide for him, but I am hoping to get some insight into my under-lying anxiety issues, and what is causing them. Along with the experience of the trip and fun of course. I'm hoping that maybe meditation and a good mind set going into the trip will prevent a bad trip. I have frequent panic attacks and have had several bad 'trips' smoking cannabis and have managed to handle them quite well I believe. While I understand that there is not much of a comparison I think that my ability to snap back 'into it' when having a panic attack will help if I do ended up having a bad trip.
 
Again you do have a mature outlook on drug usage, and your bad trips on cannabis may not transfer over to how you react to psychedelics, they have entirely different mechanisms of action.
Very smart as well not wanting to exceed 1.5g, that may be low for some, personally at your age I would never recommend exceeding 2g at once.
Remember that home grown mushrooms tend to be very powerful, the home grown ones I've tried fucking blew me away.
One more point I'd like to add is although attempting to use psychedelics to solve personal issues such as anxiety could be effective, personality changes and mood swings are unbelievably common at 14.
Don't go giving yourself a diagnosis when your body and mind still have very crucial development to undergo.
Your personality will not be the same when you're 15, 16, 17 or any other year, so I would not worry so much about minor anxiety issues.
 
Hi,

I think most of the important advice has already been given, I'd just like to add that even if shrooms are for whatever reason a negative experience for you, other psys might still be very enjoyable to you.
 
Definitely go outside when you take the mushrooms. IMO far too many people waste trips staying indoors watching TV, or at a concert venue or dance club instead of going outside into nature. The nausea from the mushrooms isn't that bad. Some people make themselves puke after the peak, others just avoid eating for 3-4 hours before taking them, and some people just drink a ginger tea or take a ginger supplement if their stomach gets queasy. You won't be screaming naked. Just relax and wear sun-glasses.

OK I read your other post about how you have anxiety, DP/DR, and are on medications.

If you have those issues like anxiety, Depersonalization, Derealization, etc. and are on SSRIs and the other medication I would not take mushrooms or any illegal drugs. Also 14 is way too young to be taking mushrooms. Try waiting at least two years or more, and safely go off of the medications with the supervision of your doctor that prescribed them, and then see if you still want to take mushrooms. You have the rest of your life to take drugs if that's what you want to do. Good luck.
 
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You don't really sound like a fourteen yearold to me.
But.
I wouldn't. too young.
Lifes events are created by people making mistakes as they understand themselves.
Having too many answers will make it harder for peers to relate to you. Then once they understand where you were coming from later, viscous cycle.
Everyones different.
I apologize. I'm nodding and your post struck me as lopsided. but. there is very good advice here.
If you are knowledgable, you will enjoy yourself.
Psycedelic means, mind viewing. If you are intelligent, then this is like jelly to peanut butter.
Thinking is hard when u don't like to.
Just remember it will always end. and that tripping is malleable. You can see what u want. feel how ud like. But don't fight what is happening.


I don't usually see this sort of thing.discussed here, but there are lots of.things you can do if a trip starts to sour.A very simple one, if yer kickin it insidr, is to switch the light source.
 
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Thank you for the advice. I really hope that the anxiety is just a phase. I'm not self diagnosed though, I go through both medication management and a counseling program (Although I think most counselors are full of shit). I have been prescribed several medications with no prevail. Hopefully next time I see my psychiatrist we'll find something that works. The problem with any of my Doctors finding me medications is that I suffer from depersonalization and derealization and so far SSRI's have actually made things worse, and the Amitriptyline they recently put me on has had made me horribly depressed, followed by nightmares, and auditory hallucinations. I had to stop taking it and am not due to see my psych until next month. I have had chronic anxiety since the age of seven, but only in the past year has it turned into a 'disorder' if you want to put a label on it. Anyway, you didn't ask for this information. Haha. Once again, Thank you for the advice. It's greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks for the extra information, we can't ask for details which we don't know exist but often they are instrumental in giving good advice.

Personally I would advise against using any drugs for a few years, especially given your existing conditions and medications. Psychedelics can help with psychiatric conditions but they can also seriously complicate and worsen them. As a result my personal recommendation is to wait until you are living independently which is typically when most young adults gain a lot of responsibility and additional maturity.

If you were 17 and had this attitude I might suggest differently, but I cannot, in good conscience, suggest that you take psychedelics, especially as someone who suffers from excessive anxiety.
 
Great advice has been given but I'd just like to address your age here.

You do indeed sound very mature and seem to really know what you're doing. While all that is good it is important you should know that if you are indeed 14 then you will have a vulnerable mind. These kinds of psychedelics may not be harmful to your body physically but really do take a toll on your psyche. I've witnessed a couple friends really freaking out on acid and they've all done shrooms before and said that it is really easy to fall into a bad trip on shrooms. You'll be in nature without a trip sitter which is a bit risky considering it is your first time but the dose is low. So I feel you should be fine but you should really know that this drug can show you things you may not understand and finding back reality is difficult when you're down the rabbit hole.

IMO you should acquire a fast acting benzo such like Xanax in case shit hits the fan for you or your friend. But I've always felt that 14 was way too young to open up your mind as it is still developing and may be in the early stages in puberty.

Just be careful of your surroundings. And always stay calm.
 
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Thank you for the advice. I really hope that the anxiety is just a phase. I'm not self diagnosed though, I go through both medication management and a counseling program (Although I think most counselors are full of shit). I have been prescribed several medications with no prevail. Hopefully next time I see my psychiatrist we'll find something that works. The problem with any of my Doctors finding me medications is that I suffer from depersonalization and derealization and so far SSRI's have actually made things worse, and the Amitriptyline they recently put me on has had made me horribly depressed, followed by nightmares, and auditory hallucinations. I had to stop taking it and am not due to see my psych until next month. I have had chronic anxiety since the age of seven, but only in the past year has it turned into a 'disorder' if you want to put a label on it. Anyway, you didn't ask for this information. Haha. Once again, Thank you for the advice. It's greatly appreciated.
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I may not be a doctor but I cringe when psychiatrists are prescribing medications, especially TCA's, to 14 year olds.
 
I'm off of all medications currently. None of them have seemed to work and I had adverse reactions to two of them. I stopped smoking a while ago and even when I did smoke it was only on occasion. Depending on how I am in March, I may decide to forfeit the idea. I don't want to, as I really think I'm ready for the experience, but I'm kind of going on the hopes that maybe after this next visit with my psych we can clear some stuff up and my anxiousness won't be as bad. If it is I think I'll sway against it. Maybe I'm not though. I mean, I guess everyone who's done them has thought they knew what they were doing at some point and some people have ended up in a 5 year psychosis. So i don't know. I'll give it some serious thought. I have 2 months to make the decision.
 
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I may not be a doctor but I cringe when psychiatrists are prescribing medications, especially TCA's, to 14 year olds.
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It wasn't my psychiatrist. It was just a pediatric MD and he had no idea what he was doing. The medication made me feel more horrible than my anxiety has ever made me feel (Other then when I have panic attacks of course). After I told him that it was awful and I was having a strange reaction to it he told me to stop taking it immediately. After not taking it for 48 hours I had three panic attacks in a row and the worst dissociative episode I have ever had. I was rushed to urgent care and because it was new years eve they were closed. So after getting home I took another Ami and freaked out for two hours until it turned me into a depressed slug and I was able to go to bed. I went to see another Doctor so that maybe he could prescribe me something to help with the anxiety getting off of the medication and he told me that what happened was just a coincidence and then went on to compare the medication and the association between the panic attacks to cookies. 'If you woke up in the morning and ate two cookies and then had six panic attacks; would you blame it on the cookies?'. Fucking Doctors in my town.
 
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