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Questions about tripping for the first time (LSA) knowing you are to young.

Gottakeepitrolling said:
Thank you i'll just stick to the HBWR. You make it sounds like that HBWR is a better "starter" choose because it's a lighter trip? Am i right?
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Hmm, not really. I have seen freak outs on woodrose seeds and I do not think there is any inherent property that makes them 'lighter.' What I am trying to say is the experience between woodrose seed and morning glory seed is qualitatively different...woodrose seed being more somatic/body oriented and mgseed being more visionary (I do not use the word 'visionary' in the same way I use the word 'visual.') Woodrose seeds are still psychedelic, they are still going to produce an intense experience....just one that is different from the MGseed experience.

As I said before...words will really mean nothing to you at the end of the day because there is no way words can adequately describe the psychedelic experience.
 
Well, again thank you alot! Not only have your informations been usefull, also you have learned me at least 10 new English Words (English is not my mothers tongue) ;)
 
You sound like me when I was your age. I tried everything to escape this harsh world of reality. I hated school, so I'd stay home and I actually got real LSD, so I was lucky. Be careful, there were lots of things I did that tripped me out fucking stupid stupid - drinking cough syrup pure was horrible, taking any Rx that I didn't read the DOCTORS instructions on the side effects like I took haldol accadently once and got ataxia, (which makes your muscles do whatever they want like having tourrettes all day and it was terrible!) plus I crashed a car blacked out on a can of dust off when i was 17. That was all terrible. Stick to buying like salvia (good one) weed, and stay away from the 2 evils: opiates and amphetamines (those will make you look in a mirror and see a different person.) Good luck. I wouldn't do any drug that lasts more than a few hours unless I'd tried it before. I'm sorry your need to escape and have adventure cannot be solved by bungie jumping or rock climbing snowboarding: my fam was poor - the cool thing to do was drugs, and if you're loosing friends prepare to loose more if you're doing this and bragging. they won't relate to you anymore. I've lost many a friend after trying meth because I thought it would be like MDMA (WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!). Good luck. Read some Hunter S. Thompson.... there's good ideas in there. There's also a cactus you can grow in your backyard that will get you high. Basically you can order these things. Hang on.
 
You sound like me when I was your age. I tried everything to escape this harsh world of reality. I hated school, so I'd stay home and I actually got real LSD, so I was lucky. Be careful, there were lots of things I did that tripped me out fucking stupid stupid - drinking cough syrup pure was horrible, taking any Rx that I didn't read the DOCTORS instructions on the side effects like I took haldol accadently once and got ataxia, (which makes your muscles do whatever they want like having tourrettes all day and it was terrible!) plus I crashed a car blacked out on a can of dust off when i was 17. That was all terrible. Stick to buying like salvia (good one) weed, and stay away from the 2 evils: opiates and amphetamines (those will make you look in a mirror and see a different person.) Good luck. I wouldn't do any drug that lasts more than a few hours unless I'd tried it before. I'm sorry your need to escape and have adventure cannot be solved by bungie jumping or rock climbing snowboarding: my fam was poor - the cool thing to do was drugs, and if you're loosing friends prepare to loose more if you're doing this and bragging. they won't relate to you anymore. I've lost many a friend after trying meth because I thought it would be like MDMA (WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!). Good luck. Read some Hunter S. Thompson.... there's good ideas in there. There's also a cactus you can grow in your backyard that will get you high. Basically you can order these things. Hang on.
 
LSA is hit or miss. I'm one of the lucky people who get strong effects. my suggestion is this. I've been experimenting with DXM + LSA. I've never done ketamine so I feel like I've unlocked some interesting perceptions after reading about NDMA or whatevwr
Just chew the seeds. I used to CWE, but u need more and stuff. u can get lopramide for like two dollars too. eh. For age, u will be older than your peers in thought. They wont understand. Then you'll have less fun shit to do later and have a midlife risis at twenty. Think for yourself. Namaste.
 
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i'll put it to you this way, all the people i know who are permatripping, starting using psychedelics at young age. not to say all will go nucking futs, but i think it greatly increases the probability. and i am not talking about underlaying schizophrenia (i hope not!) i am talking about what i call 'spun out' where they just have had so many psychedelic experiances without giving time for integration while their mind is still developing that they are stuck in the experiance. not that they are all unhappy either. not that they are all happy. and most are still young, and will probably recover to some extent... i'ts probably a double edged sword.

this could also have to do with the [ab]use of said psychedelics though, as opposed to resonsible use, but i think at that age, they are not mature enough to use them responsibly once they find a world inside of it, they are like ' i gotta learn more ', and continue to use psychedelics too often and too recklessly. i am lucky to be alive. and i know others like me. same as kids who drive around literally drinking and driving in groups, while smoking pot. bad idea for so many reasons.
 
Thanks for the the advice, I don't take it for granted, and later I'll sit Down and read it through Again, but right now I'm really bissy and just wanted to ask a few more questions:

Some people say that they feel a strong afterglow the day after tripping, some say they feel great, and others get down. But if I choose to take it before a school day, how will my school day be? Will I be able to read etc.?
 
Not sure with LSA, but most psychs give me an afterglow rather than a hangover. That being said, it's not really recommendable to have anything too important the next day. If you must you're fine, though.

P.s I don't suppose you can still buy San Pedro or other Mescaline cacti at gardening stores anymore right? It's a "proper" psychedelic and a more surefire thing to focus on if these seeds turn out not right for you.

And MGS, Rivea Corymbiosa is "ololiuhqui" right? I suppose those found in smartshops aren't the ones you're looking for right? (E.g they're something else, or degraded, whatever)
 
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never underestimate MG seeds ... i was dumb enough to underestimate because i took the ipomea tricolor from the flower shop and never felt effects ... so being young an all i thought of it as an equivalent to smoking banana peels (which was a myth that was spread by the anarchists cook book) so after eating the wrong seeds and feeling nothing i was convinced that they don't work but i decided to give it another try ... bad setting also ... i bought 5 packs (2g each) of heavenly blue having read that its what most people take. I stupidly decided to eat all of them ... luckly i only had the stomach to eat 4 packs (8 grams) before i got on a bus ride that was supposed to last for 14 hours and ended up being one of the oddest experiences ever ... the seeds kicked in, and fuck did they kick .... at the end of my bus ride that felt like an eternity of claustrophobic madness everyone on that bus was convinced that i was retarded ... i spent most of my money buying various gatorade bottles at a gas stop because the colorful liquid intrigued me ... the whole process of opening these bottles became a mission and i started asking people in the bus to help me out ... after some guy helped me out i opened and drank all of them (like 5 bottles) .... this was unfortunate since the next bathroom break was in 4 hours ... i remember feeling like going through hell, filled with urine and not being able to piss and when we did finally arrive at our next gas station / bathroom break i just got out of the bus and started pissing... i remember people trying to tell me that the bathroom was in a near building but i could not care less, i felt like i have waited enough .... plus everything looked like i was on the moon and the view was overwhelming ... later we had to go through customs and i could not stop laughing when i realized how serious and agitated people became at the sight of the officers that were controlling the passports ... they came to me and for some reason i remember a strong impulse to answer there questions in Ialian (I dont even fucking speak Italian) ... i have no idea what i said to them but i just showed my passport and bursted out into laughter, they had a quick look inside my bag and went to check the remaining people ... if i look back i would of probably gotten paranoid with my current mindset but back then it was actually a very interesting experience ..... don't underestimate ... and don't re-dose... it might take a while to kick in but it will kick in
 
kidklmx said:
And MGS, Rivea Corymbiosa is "ololiuhqui" right?
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That's it. I've never tried to order any...but I would snap some fresh seed up in a heart beat if I knew a source. The alkaloid mixture in ololiuhqui is different from tlitlizen (aka the species the 'heavenly blue' commercial flower seed is derived from), depending on what you read.....they may even be much stronger than 'store bought Tlitlizen" seed....certainly the reports I have read suggest that subjectively...ololiuhqui is the most desirable of all the MGseed family.
 
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