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questions about crystal meth

PriestTheyCalledHim

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If this is better suited for the other drugs forum feel free to move it there.

I am asking these questions since I have never used meth and a person I am acquainted with is getting into it, or now uses it regularly. These person suggested that I try it for myself but I have no desire to do this since it would not help and I have stopped using drugs and been sober for more than a year. This is not someone who I know in person but an online acquaintance who I sometimes chat about with topics such as life, work, drugs, etc.

For the HR (harm reduction) people: I'm not going to use meth since I have no desire to since I am now sober from everything I just have questions about the drug since it's something I never used, do not want to use, and someone who I know is into it, or starting to use it.

How does meth compare to dexedrine? I have met people who claim how they are exactly the same if they're both done orally as the ROA. But ex tweakers have told me how crank/meth is a lot more stronger than even very high doses of Dexedrine say like 100-200mg+ of it. Are the people who claim they're the same just getting really low dose or low quality meth? These people are not getting Desoxyn or pharm grade meth but are getting meth from the streets or people who they PNP with.

Is it possible for someone to use meth recreationally like how people do with herb how they just smoke on weekends or a few times a month? Or does meth quickly make someone addicted and the use of it spirals out of control and you become addicted fast like coke?

Also this person tells me that the high from meth does not keep you awake for days unless you do multiple doses of it, is this true? Or are they just getting really low quality meth? Or just taking it in very low doses? The acquaintance I know who is into meth says how they've done it in all ways including IV, oral, plugging (up the ass), snorting, and how they usually just smoke it.

I know ex-tweakers who got sober who told me how the first time they used meth/crank in the late 70s and 80s even though they just snorted a line or two of it, how they stayed awake for 2-3 days from just a small amount of it.

I once met a guy at a party who told me how he would abuse Adderall but he enjoyed freebasing it or smoking it off foil how people do this with coke or heroin, would that compare to meth? Or not because it's not meth, and it's amphetamine?
 
I'd agree about it being similar to dexedrine. The only real difference is it is longer lasting, has around double to triple the stimulant potency and is more serotonergic. I only do meth up to the 30mg mark, so I can't really comment from experience about doses that high, but 30mg meth is roughly the same as 60mg dexedrine.

I'd say occasional recreational meth use is possible depending on the person, although I don't use recreationally. People prone to addiction should definitely steer clear. Taking high doses is inherently going to be more neurotoxic unless you are specifically taking stuff to counter that (modafinil, antioxidants, etc)

You definitely won't be up more than overnight if you don't redose. The ROA does have a lot to do with the duration and peak blood concentration. Oral is by far the smoothest (although lacking a rush) as far as not having as much of a comedown or redose compulsion for those who are prone.
 
Hey Priest - since you specifically asked me to reply to the post I will gladly.

Yeah - anyone who has a sort of addictive personality should stay away from the stuff - some many people have gotten completely addicted.

I am not familiar with dexedrine so cannot comment on a comparison. Yes, meth is very strong and if you smoke like .25 grams in a few hours you would be way way fucked up.

Yes, it may be possible to be a casual user but it can be addictive especially if one is prone to addiction. Many people have spiraled totally out of control on it.

No - it does not keep you awake for days. If I party with meth I may not sleep much that night but am OK after that.

Also not familiar with Adderall either.
 
It seems that shitty cut meth seems to be what keeps you from sleeping for days, it seems to be the case from what I've seen from probably who didn't binge for days.
Idk meth is pretty potent, a month back I made a point of good shit last me four hours of use, then I had a good 4 more hours of being high after that.
I never found it hard to sleep after either, it seems that about 8-12 hours from your last hit/line and you'll be able to sleep fine.
I'm also not familiar with aderall or dex but I would assume that meth carries a little more euphoria, probably to do with the ROAD people tend to take (smoking over oral dosing)
 
Thanks for the replies everyone.

So if Dexedrine or Dexedrine based amphetamine pills like Adderall and Dexedrine are pretty much equal to meth why do people who are into meth tend to prefer meth over getting pharm amphetamine pills?

Also what can meth be cut with that would keep someone awake for days besides bath salts?

I have no experience taking crystal. I have taken pharm based amphetamines such as Dexedrine and Adderall as a teenager but this was for ADD and they were in very low doses at 5mg, 10mg, and 15mg. I did not take them daily, and I took them as prescribed just for 2 years or 2.5, and the last time I took them was in my very early 20s when I was in college studying for exams or taking an exam. I was told that very low doses of Dexedrine and Adderall don't even compare to meth. The guy that told me this was someone I met a long time ago on a drug site and he would describe taking very high doses of Adderall or Dexedrine combined with a beta-blocker so he did not die or damage his heart and he told me how even at a very large dose of say 240mg or more of pharm amphetamines smoked, taken orally, or railed how that would not compare to meth at all since meth is that strong, how true is that ? Or is it more of something that effects everyone differently?
 
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I take 60 mg of Adderall a day and have used much meth--in the 1990s it was mostly (weak) crank, but then clear (crystal) started coming around, and that was a game changer. 240 mg of Adderall is about 4x or 5x weaker than 240 mg of pure dextro-crystal meth and lasts not as long either.

Amphetamine is like a tee ball player, while meth is like a pro baseball player in comparison. And meth alone has been enough for me to stay awake for 5 or 6 nights in a row before in days past. It is my DOC, although I haven't done any in ages (no hookup and my friends won't let me have any).

I also once had a prescription for Desoxyn (dextro-methamphetamine), and it was inferior to good crystal. It felt really tweaky.
 
I don't know about you guys but i can do various small bumps of meth in the night time, and still sleep that night..
 
I never found much difference between them. Its basically the same drug but more powerfull. The feeling is the same for me.
 
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