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Question regarding potency of poppy seed tea

^ I wasn't really saying anything about pods or seeds in particular. I was just saying that heat does not "kill" opiods as easily as some may believe.
 
All I'm saying is that you're going to yield less by boiling your tea, and soaking them for too long will have the sees leak that oil. It's pretty hard to mess up the extraction, so it's not really something to be taken into account. That's all I'm saying, I'm sure you know more about all opiates than I do.
 
yeah that oil is fuckin gross. I never let the water/seeds sit for long because yeah Ive noticed that they start to absorb the water. But occasionally if I do a 2nd wash I always notice that oily look to the water. Tastes different too. Pretty disgusting. The first wash is always cleaner and tastes ok IMO.
 
Its so hard to find black seeds online, all that I find is the dutch variety. All faded and grey. I work at a restaurant that has poppy seed buns and those seeds are jet black. I think there must be some kind of regulations set up on bulk seeds when it comes to selling online to private individuals. I don't know. The big bakery Distributors must not be restricted. All I see are the blue/grey/faded black, booty seeds. Nothing good. I read the older threads from like 2000-2005 and it seems as though the bagels back then were just better.
 
fluent_c said:
Its so hard to find black seeds online, all that I find is the dutch variety. All faded and grey. I work at a restaurant that has poppy seed buns and those seeds are jet black. I think there must be some kind of regulations set up on bulk seeds when it comes to selling online to private individuals. I don't know. The big bakery Distributors must not be restricted. All I see are the blue/grey/faded black, booty seeds. Nothing good. I read the older threads from like 2000-2005 and it seems as though the bagels back then were just better.
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I've always found the grey/blue seeds to work better than black ones. It doesn't make sense, I know, and maybe I was just unlucky, but after a few attempts with black seeds that did nothing, I've stuck to the blue ones since...
 
I know nothing of poppy seed tea. Roughly ow many doses would 400grams produce.
 
One. Approx 80ml of water per 100g of seeds is what i use give or take. Throw it all in a bottle, shake it around for a couple minutes, turn it upside down loosen the lid and squeeze. Down it all in one go too
 
footscrazy said:
I think this. I use seeds every day but in particular, pst is so long lasting that it's difficult for me to even begin to compare it with other opioids I've used, which have usually had relatively short half lives. I don't know how to compare the slow burning, long lasting 'milder' high of pst with something like smack, which may be more intense but lasts a quarter as long. Which is 'stronger' in that case? It completely depends on the time frame you're talking about, so for me, it's impossible to tell. Pst is a completely unique opioid feeling for me too.
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Yeah it's very difficult to even roughly come up with some figures.

500 grams, for the seeds I get is a strong dose.

20mg of Methadone is a strong dose for me.

20-30mg of methadone would be comparable to half a kilo of seed for me I guess. It's the only thing I can compare because they both last a really long time.

Seeds I get from the supermarket are probably around half as potent.

I know you're looking for Australian info but some tea that got anaylized in the US came up as 259µg per/ml - this would be on the stronger potency of seeds available.

http://poppyseedtea.com/Poppy_Tea_Analysis.html
 
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fluent_c said:
Its so hard to find black seeds online, all that I find is the dutch variety. All faded and grey. I work at a restaurant that has poppy seed buns and those seeds are jet black. I think there must be some kind of regulations set up on bulk seeds when it comes to selling online to private individuals. I don't know. The big bakery Distributors must not be restricted. All I see are the blue/grey/faded black, booty seeds. Nothing good. I read the older threads from like 2000-2005 and it seems as though the bagels back then were just better.
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So which are the ones to look for?
 
fluent_c said:
I work at a restaurant that has poppy seed buns and those seeds are jet black.
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Probably because they were baked in the oven? ;)

You don't need jet black seeds.

IME the very best seeds were black, a bit oily and stuck together into clumps when pouring them. Plenty of other dark-blue, grey etc. have been very good though.
 
to me similar to maybe a crushed MSContin 100mg. Maybe a bit less....like 80mgs and a bit different of a feel.

That's for the brand you can buy at most supermarkets....not to be named!

I should also mention that 100mg of MsContin will feel 'cleaner' than PST. I put this down to the absence of other alkaloids, especially codeine. If I do the tea I know I'm in for a lot of nose, testical and head scratching.....not so with morphine. I use both regularly and alternate, so I think the guide you gave was quite accurate (60-100mg). In my experience, I would say that for the batches of seeds I have had, it NEVER felt stronger than 150mgs of oral crushed MSContin. I know I will get an ear-bashing from the mods but for me the range is not that wide (as I use the same, most-commonly available seeds each time). I'd give a mean value of 90mgs if I had to for all my experiences. (many many of 'em) with some outliers to the lower side and virtually none to the upper side.

I have had various forms of opium in Laos, too, and somewhat 'pride' myself on being an expert in this field :) Opium feels cleaner a high than PST, too, which kind of doesn't make much sense. The range of potency has clearly been far larger for opium in my experience as I procurred it from different sources (as opposed to the same seeds here in Oz every other week) Pitch black, reeking opium is the best. If it's quite moldable like play-dough then it is cut with a lot of fats and quite weak in my experience. When offered I started declining that variety on my trips.

I did come across seeds in Laos, too, and I would have to say they were sticky, reeked, and were quite black. I would assume they are a lot more potent compared to what comes through to our shores. In my experience I have NEVER seen seeds here in Oz that looked like them - completely unwashed, with bits and pieces of straw mixed in, sticky.... even at Indian grocers etc. Perhaps customs has some form of mandatory processing for seeds...who knows.
 
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Crankinit said:
I find it fascinating that poppy tea was such a big thing in NZ at one time (if it isn't to this day).

Just goes to show that drug users will always find a way.
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Its still big over here, on on topic to this thread I have to say the variance of seeds is ridiculous. A kg from one shop will give me a pleasent high but Maybe wanting a little more and a kg from another one with no tolerance will cause me to vomit because of how strong it is.
 
gimpan said:
Does adding citric acid help?
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Definitely - anybody who says else is full of shit. The best way is to use warmish water and half a bottle of lemon juice from Coles. The taste is full-on but it definitely makes the infusion stronger.
 
footscrazy said:
I've always found the grey/blue seeds to work better than black ones. It doesn't make sense, I know, and maybe I was just unlucky, but after a few attempts with black seeds that did nothing, I've stuck to the blue ones since...
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Agree - I once got really excited about pitch black seeds I bought at and Indian store and they were much weaker than the ones at the local supermarket when I downed them..... (we all know what brand I mean...)
 
I find the ones that have little bits of white/grey on most of the seeds to be best

I think that may be the opium latex? Because when i do the wash i always get a white milky substance at the bottom which tastes the worse and i think be what contains the goodies...
 
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