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Question regarding my cat's use of a rig to take his pain med...

painenduser

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LOL Hey guys,

I created that subject kind of as a joke because I get a kick out of people who create the "swim" posts, which I guess is to prevent self incrimination which I don't think would actually really work anyway, but when they create those posts they sometimes use their pets, a pet rock, their car, some really fun and funny ways of not using swim since we don't even use that here.

Anyway, my question is simple. As you guys already know, when I am in serious pain, I will sometime shoot my morphine so that I don't have to wait the hour for it to take affect. On occasion though a weird thing happens (well weird too me). I know that I am in a vein, and I know that I'm not tied off too tight, but as soon as I spike the vein, there seems to be so much pressure that the spike alone caused blood to cause a bubble that looks like I'm skin popping. I haven't even pushed the plunger any, infact, I am drawing back a little when I go in to cause a vacuum to insure that I am in the right place.... So technically the blood should have a place to go which is right up the barrel rather then creating a bubble under the skin.

It's a weird thing to watch because I will be right under the skin, then I spike the vein and POP there goes the bubble (as I call it) yet I am still able to draw back and then slider 'er down and push it in. I can tell when it's gone in because I feel flush and hot. I can't push it too fast because I get extreme histamine release and for about two minutes my body will itch all over and it is a damn deep, nothing I can due to relax the itch even a tiny bit but wash down with a cold wash cloth and wait until it passes. I brought that up to show that I am not causing the bubble by pushing too hard and bursting the vein or anything.

I normally use a 25G or 27G depending on what is in stock at the place I order them from and unfortunately I can't use insulin rigs because the syringe's are too small like no more then a 1cc and when your doing a 60mg pill, you don't have enough water mixed in otherwise it would be like syrup and clog the rig, plus I don't think I would be able to go slow enough to prevent the itch with anything that small.

Does anyone have any ideas what I could be doing wrong or anything I could do to prevent this? Once this happens, that vein is shot for days upwards of a week or too because it has to heal and it tender for a long time. I always put pressure on it immediately after, I'm done, I put a piece of gauze over it to stop the bleeding, and message the area for a few minutes while my heating pack heats up, then I put a heating pad on it for 20 minutes or so, to allow my body to reclaim all the blood in the bubble. It doesn't usually bruise that bad because I treat it right away, but it does stay sore and unusable for a long time.

Just curious if this happens to anyone else and if anyone has some ideas.

Thanks a bunch, I trust everyone had a Happy Holiday and has a very Happy New Year!

-Pain
 
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Are you releasing the tourniquet prior to pushing the plunger? If you are not I'd try that. Register, and when you see blood loosen the tie so blood can flow freer. Check to make sure you are still in vein before pushing though. I had some veins I absolutely could not remove the tie before pushing, cause I would lose the vein n not be able to get in again but that was cause I have small hard to hit veins. You are supposed to loosen/remove tourniquet before you push

The pressure from that is the only thing I can think of that might be causing your issue. If you already loosen then i dont know what could be the cause.
 
Hey there crzydiamond!,Yes basically what I do is when I register, I usually take the tourniquet off completely because unfortunately I have bad veins all together as is evident when I am in the hospital. My veins are always collapsing or bursting when they push meds in fast or even sometimes just a small flush will cause the veins to burst. So, I take it all the way off to insure I have a little pressure as possible when I push the plunger.

I didn't think that anyone would really be able to help as I am sure it is just the make up of my body. My veins are probably ultra thin and more then likely even more so where I'm spiking them at the time they bubble.

There is just such an amazing wealth of knowledge here in regards to harm reduction and everything drug related. (I hate to say drug related as it almost seems to negative over tones, yet we are good people). I know that certain vitamins, plenty of rest, and hydration are all good ways to help your veins heal and probably make them a but more robust.

The thing that freaks me out the most about this though is that my father passed very young from an aneurysm which as you probably know is a blowing of an artery at a point where there is a very thin wall where the pressure causes that wall or bubble and or burst. The bubbling of my veins remind me everytime it happens and I think, wow, this must be what an aneurysm looks like but thankfully it's happening in a vein and we don't shoot into arteries. Pretty freaky.

Well, thanks my friend, maybe someone else may have another thought / suggestion. Happy New Year to you!

-Pain
 
Are you able to get into the vein ok without a tourniquet? If you can, that might help.
 
I can suggest using an antihistamine such as Benadryl to help with the itching and the histamine release.

The closest I've ever had happen to what you describe is on occasion I would try and not get in and a little bubble would form without me pushing or anything. Like I would take out the syringe and there would be a small bubble there. No idea why other thana reaction. I got the reaction welts up and down the vein alot too.

I don't know, sorry I can't be of more help. If you are still in and still able to feel your shot then you aren't missing so if its a reaction maybe the antihistamine would help. Have you tried taking Benadryl like 45 min prior to dosing?
 
Are you able to get into the vein ok without a tourniquet? If you can, that might help.

Hey BlueIV! Happy Holidays! No, I have never tried without a tourniquet because how terrible my veins are. It's a darn good thing I only do this a few times a month as opposed to daily or multiple times a day as I have heard some people do. If I did I am sure my veins wouldn't last more then 1 week, and then I would be out of places to try. Plus I am a scared cat... I refuse to try in area in which I can't see or feel the vein such as the groin, thigh, or anywhere else you have to pretty much blind fire! No way! No thank you!lol

crzdiamond, Benadryl does help me when I get the smaller histamine releases such as when I'm pushing slow and a little leaks out under the skin a bit. WHOA DOGGIE does that ever itch, lol I can't get a heating pad on the spot fast enough! lol

Well anyway, I don't want to take up much more of anyone's time on this as this isn't exactly my favorite ROA and I need to preserve what few veins I have left in case of an emergency and I have to goto the hospital again which is inevitable.

Ya'll have a Happy, Happy, Happy!

Warm Wishes!

-Pain
 
Have you ever tried plugging your morphine? A lot of people swear by it, and it has a much shorter onset than oral use, with no risk of you blowing veins or developing an abscess. There's at least a few threads on BL about this technique, just a search away.
 
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