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Question on Hydrocodone dosing

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So I thought I was a big expert on hydrocodone and it's many forms...at some point, the dosing seems to have changed and I don't know why / what. I would swear that there used to be doses of 500mg hydrocodone/500mg tylenol called Vicodin and then Norco was 1000mg/325. Did I miss something? Today, everything is dosed in 1, 5 and 10mg of hydrocodone. Was there a major shift in the drug formulation or did I dream the whole 500 - 1000mg of hydrocodone thing?
 
no you just received misinformation. hydrocodone doses are usually 5, 7.5, and 10mg combined with anywhere from 325 to 750mg of APAP. this was a stupid thing I had to deal with in highschool people selling me 10s saying "these are the 1000s" or 500s or 750s. I don't know why people have this issue with hydro and not oxy. i'm glad you cared enough to ask, most people will just eat anything for a buzz and believe anything.
 
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Erowid.org if you've never heard of it. Basic information for a a number of drugs, like dosing, effects, etc.
 
Yes...and just FYI...hydros also come in a 2.5 mg hydrocodone formulation though you don't see it aas often. Also because of the new regulations of APAP (tylenol) soon no mixed medication formula may have more than 325 mg of APAP in it per dose. This is because of all of the liver damage due to OD of ApAP and deaths.

But the larger number in all hydrocodone pills has always been the amount of APAP with the smaller number (2.5, 5, 7.5, 10) being the mg of hydro.
 
Never heard of a 2.5, is it for children or something?

My favorite formulation is hydrocodone + homatropine syrup. I look at the homatropine as a lime for my sizzurp and sprite! Lulz

Sorry it's off topic but his question was answered and I'm curious as to who they prescribe 2.5s to
 
alt 14 said:
Never heard of a 2.5, is it for children or something?

My favorite formulation is hydrocodone + homatropine syrup. I look at the homatropine as a lime for my sizzurp and sprite! Lulz

Sorry it's off topic but his question was answered and I'm curious as to who they prescribe 2.5s to
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they aren't for children I don't think, and you will probably never see one unless you get a job at a pharmacy. they exist, Percocet 2.5s exist too, but don't get scripted. doctors will prescribe half a 5 before the 2.5s
 
Hmm, I actually knew about 2.5mg oxycodone, but its like a time and a half as potent as a hydro so I could see it potentially having medical use in adults. But 2.5mg of hydro, that's like nothing.

Yeah, I was prescribed half-pills in my life. Non-narcotic, but still.

So what do they give children in moderate to severe pain then? Quarter-half pills of narcotics?
 
2.5mg hydrocodones exist IIRC. There's no such thing as 1000mg hydrocodone dosage units. You're probably reading the label incorrectly. Norco is 10mg hydrocodone with 325mg APAP (Tylenol) so 10/325.
 
alt 14 said:
Hmm, I actually knew about 2.5mg oxycodone, but its like a time and a half as potent as a hydro so I could see it potentially having medical use in adults. But 2.5mg of hydro, that's like nothing.

Yeah, I was prescribed half-pills in my life. Non-narcotic, but still.

So what do they give children in moderate to severe pain then? Quarter-half pills of narcotics?
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low low dose codeine or morphine I believe. like those codeine pills you can get OTC in Canada with like 7mg in them
 
OK, but I still have pills that say 500/500 on them and call themselves vicodin and Norco that says 1000/325. Maybe I am too old. These are from the 80's. LOL probably need to throw them out. Obviosuly they aren't 1000mg of todays formulation as that would likely kill a horse, but was just wondering if there was a change in the formula at some point. They figured out how to put the same ummph in a dose ten times smaller??? Anyway, thanks.
 
Dude we answered your question like 7 different times and you just ignore it.

Google simple questions like this next time.

Again, no, hydrocodone is hydrocodone, and that triple digit number is paracetamol or ibuprofen.

P.S. your pills probably still mostly work, I'd eat em if I were you. Maybe not as potent after all that time, but ya never know.
 
The "500/500" Vicodins are more than likely 5/500s and the "1000/325" is 10/325. There have never been 500mg or 1000mg hydrocodone dosage units. 1000mg of hydrocodone would probably kill you. Hydrocodone is hydrocodone. It hasn't changed its potency since it was created in 1920.

Do a Google search for the imprint on the pills and it will tell you exactly what's in them. I assure you there is and never has been 500/500s or 1000/325s.
 
Dude, I remember when I was in school, several kids "who knew they shit" would talk about 25mg Fentanyl patches, meaning the 2.5mg 72hr ones. Good thing pure Fent wasn't around, people be droppin like flies. I've actually had someone try to sell me 500mg "hydros", which were 5/500, so it seems to be somewhat common that people refer to the APAP content mistaking it for HC. I have ran CWE (with unknown true yield), and once ate what was the equivalent of 125mg HC...Knocked me on my ass, and I gots tolerance. If ever they made 500mg HC, you'd be talking about an immediate increase in deaths, prolly several hundreds per day.

I use Drugs.co/Pill-Identification-Wizard or something to that effect. Can't say how many hustlers I busted out with that trying off rip off my less-knowledgable bros (Yeah dude, that's a 10, let me type the imprint in the PC, wait, why's it say 5mg HC?) When I use to buy pharms on the street, I found a Physician's Desk Reference to be priceless in moments when internet access was not possible.
 
DJ, no doubt you the others here are correct. This is what I remember as a kid. People would say the 10's were really 1000's, etc. Where did this come from I wonder? That is all I was trying to get to. I knew I didn't dream it, but haven't been able to find the source of the misinfo.
 
I remember having a few friends of mine asking me. "OMGZ DUDEZ WANNA BUY SOME VIKEZ THEY'RE 1000 mgs!!! $XxX PER PILL!!" Naturally I would shut them down and tell them that they're 1000mgs of acetaminophen and had a ridiculous argument on how they were wrong and they would not let up at all. They tried telling me, of all people about drugs. I'm rambling but yes you must've dreamt of 500-1000mgs of hydrocodone, because that would be exactly that, a dream if it existed.
 
To the question about what they prescribe children:

They can pretty much prescribe anything to children (opioid-wise) except for fentanyl patches I believe.

Benzodiazepines are a bit different though - I don't believe benzo's are approved for use in anyone under the age of 18, unless it's for seizures or something really serious (I know Xanax isn't approved for use in anyone under 18 years of age).

Amphetamines - Pretty obvious as this is staple treatment in ADHD.

This is all US policy though.
 
alt 14 said:
Hmm, I actually knew about 2.5mg oxycodone, but its like a time and a half as potent as a hydro so I could see it potentially having medical use in adults. But 2.5mg of hydro, that's like nothing.

Yeah, I was prescribed half-pills in my life. Non-narcotic, but still.

So what do they give children in moderate to severe pain then? Quarter-half pills of narcotics?
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Children, depending on body weight, are usually given narcotics in liquid forms. Older children (larger) can be given partial tablets of adult doses. A hydro 2.5 can be prescribed for children but generally it is reserved for elderly people who do not tolerate narcotics as well. Their bodies, if frail, don't always process them as efficiently so they require a much smaller dose. But no, not just pharmacists see them. They aren't prescribed as frequently but they are prescribed. And yes, children can be prescribed fentanyl for pain, just no where near the same dosages such as come in a patch.

And yes, children can also be given benzos. Valium is frequently given to children among other benzos.

As far as the person talking about the fent patches, there are fent patches that are frequently referred to as "25s" but this is because they release 25 mcgs per hour and they have a total of 4.2 mg of fentanyl in them. There is no such thing as a 2.5 fentanyl patch (in the US anyways).
 
Don't forget, Methamphetamine can legally be prescribed, albeit in severe cases, to kids as young as, IIRC, 8yrs old! But it is Federally "illegal" to prescribe marijuana to adults...But I'm preaching to the choir most likely.
 
I'll take your word for it. I swear, I thought the were 2.5mg...Regardless, I've heard a lot of people claim them to be 25mg, not ug, whether they were talking bout per hour or per patch IDK. I never got into Fen patches. Done them a couple times when I got habitiated to opiates via OC and that was all there was, but I never understood why one would actively seek out such a short-acting opioid.
 
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