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Question for Sustanon - Weigh Loss / Muscle Gain

AyahuascaSeeker13

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Hey!

Sustanon (and any others who know)... I am after a product/s to be used for an intense weight loss stack... Keep in mind, I have moderately high blood pressure, so too much caffeine could be bad...

Anything you recommend would be awesome.

Was looking at Drenbuterol and Clenbuterol, and also all those Thermagenic Fat Burners...

I really need help! Thanks people.
 
^ High blood pressure could be a bit of a worry. Have you had a look in the healthy living forums?

Honestly in my opinion for weight loss you're better off sticking to a strict diet and exercising (especially resistance training) rather than relying on drugs or thermogenic fat burners.

There was one really effective one on the market that was pulled from shelves here about a year ago... one of the key ingredients was 1,3-DMAA and overall it was very similar to a lot of the pre-workout energy supps that are available (e.g. jack3d). All of them will be pretty harsh on your cardiovascular system though.

Proabably not the advice you want to hear but you should drink more water, eat less carbs, more protein, and exercise like motherfucking-conan-the-barbarian would. More lean muscle mass means higher resting metabolic rate so aim to pack on muscle and the fat loss will follow so long as you eat healthily.
 
^ LOL thanks for the info man... It's pretty much what I have been hearing everywhere... I'll try Hydroxy Venom (Redback Nutrition), I think, it has the least stims in it. What do you think?

If no good, I guess I am going to have to just work hard... As if givin up cigs, alcohol, and codeine wasn't enough! LOL
 
You might find more info in to help on 'Steroid Discussion' from the main page.

Sustanon is a good all rounder. You'll still gain a little on that, and won't hold as much water as other testosterone's. You can also try Stanazol (stanazolol/winstrol), which is used a lot when people are trying to cut up but keep some muscle. You won't have any water retention on that either.

Clenbuterol is great when trying to lose weight, I currently have some ready to be used =) Although it does elevate blood pressure, can give you mean pressure headaches and 'clen shakes' when it's in effect during the day.
 
^ LOL thanks for the info man... It's pretty much what I have been hearing everywhere... I'll try Hydroxy Venom (Redback Nutrition), I think, it has the least stims in it. What do you think?

If no good, I guess I am going to have to just work hard... As if givin up cigs, alcohol, and codeine wasn't enough! LOL

Haha man I hear you, alcohol and codeine are pretty big vices of mine and the only things holding me back from being really fit at the moment. :!

Really you're wasting money on fat loss products unless you're a body builder seeking to lose that last 1% body fat before a competition. They're terrible for long-term weight management. Spend that cash on fruit and vegetables instead.
 
Haha man I hear you, alcohol and codeine are pretty big vices of mine and the only things holding me back from being really fit at the moment. :!

Really you're wasting money on fat loss products unless you're a body builder seeking to lose that last 1% body fat before a competition. Spend that cash on fruit and vegetables instead. They're terrible for long-term weight management.

Yeah... Well I ordered it last night... LOL. I think i'll stick to buying fresh fruit and veggies with my cash.
 
Hey AyahuascaSeeker13, sorry i havnt been checkin in on BL recently, been busy as hell. Off to work today again then celebrating my bday after that but will reply when I finish work:)
 
Hey AyahuascaSeeker13, sorry i havnt been checkin in on BL recently, been busy as hell. Off to work today again then celebrating my bday after that but will reply when I finish work:)

Thanks man... Happy birthday...

Just so you know... This is where I'm at

Exercise:

Morning: Mild Cardio and Weights
Evening: 1 Hour Walk

Prescription:

1X Ramipril - Morning
1X Pristiq - Morning
1X Somac - Morning

Supps:

20ml Hydrated Bentonite - Morning
20X Chlorella Tabs (No Name) - Morning
1X Hydroxy Venom (RedBak) - Before ALL Meals
2X Cheaters Relief (BSN) - Before LUNCH and DINNER
2X Cheaters Relief (BSN) - After LUNCH and DINNER
2X CLA (Primordial Performance) - Morning
2X CLA (Primordial Performance) - Morning
1X Mega Men (GNC Multi) - Morning and Evening

Food:

Clean - Vegetables with Fish or Chicken
No wheat, gluten etc...
 
^ If you don't mind my asking, what was your blood pressure the last time you got it checked? And how are you finding Ramipril in terms of side effects? Have you tried any other BP medications?
 
MY BP was 140/90 last time I checked it.

Ramipril, I feel doesn't work. Before, with my old diet, I used to have 1 tab in the morn and 1 at night to keep my BP in a normal range. Side effects were generally mild nausea around 2 hours after taking it, but got rid of that with a small cone.

Since I cut fats and shit like that inc junk food out of my diet, it (my BP) has levelled out. It is the same with or without termogenic fat burners, which is interesting...

Perhaps BP has all to do with diet and excerise?
 
Diet and exercise is definitely a good way to help reduce blood pressure. I believe that in cases where BP is not at a severe level, those options should be exhausted first before resorting to a blood pressure medication. What was your BP when your doctor decided to initiate ACE inhibitor therapy? And what dose of ramipril are you on?

It sounds like you've made a decent effort to improve your health though, which you should be happy about. A lot of people expect the tablets to fix everything for them and don't try to fix their diet or do much exercise. :)
 
How high is your blood pressure? you on any meds for it?

Clenbuterol is a great drug a selective beta-agonist that shreds fats and is anti-catabolic allowing you to retain muscle.

this would be a good stack:
D-aspartic is good boosts test by ~50%
X-factor (arachidonic acid)
AI to reduce estrogen and give that dry look.
ECA (ephedrine/caffeine/asprin)

getting an AI or ephedrine in australia is not OTC.

DNP is dangerous! really dangerous but works very very well. i think it increases your metabolism by 30% while ephedrine is 5% and clen is 10%
 
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140/90 is my BP... On Ramipril for it, but I don't think I need it... Goin to docs this week to see what's up.

I know Clen is the shit, just wondering if it's OK with high BP...

I don't think an ECA stack would be wise just yet? I dunno...

Also, just started 10ml of D-Aspartic acid today... 10ml for 12 days then off for 12 days.
 
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