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Question for people with some/alot of tripping experience

There is a difference between 'MDMA magic' and 'being moderately drunk and very stoned', there is even a LARGE difference between this and a low dose of MDMA.
 
that's my whole point. perhaps he just doesn't get the MDMA magic that you get. his MDMA lacks magic.
 
greenmeanies said:
that's my whole point. perhaps he just doesn't get the MDMA magic that you get. his MDMA lacks magic.
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Oh, I thought you were referring to the whole 'MDMA Magic' feeling, or basically people's first few times wiped out. Then that would still go back to my point, if whether or not he's tried MDMA or at least decent quality MDMA.
 
mydeepestblue said:
I am curious as to what is the difference tripping on shrooms vs. acid vs. tripping on rolls vs. research chemicals? I want to know about the difference concerning the metal states, as well as the physical feeling and visuals.
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Here, read these:

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal38.shtml

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal043.shtml

http://isomerdesign.com/PiHKAL/read.php?domain=pk&id=109

...there will be a quiz later.
 
SpecialK_ said:
Oh, I thought you were referring to the whole 'MDMA Magic' feeling, or basically people's first few times wiped out. Then that would still go back to my point, if whether or not he's tried MDMA or at least decent quality MDMA.
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I think... you might have just missed the point again.
 
SpecialK_ said:
You had a great post up until here and now I can't take you seriously. Have you ever tried MDMA? This makes me question whether you have, it's completely different to being stoned or drunk, not like either whatsoever.
The crash isn't bad at all for most people, many stimulants have a much worse comedown than MDMA. I wouldn't even call it a comedown with MDMA unless I was dosing high repeatedly. 8)

Just remember that setting, just like with psychedelics, is important with MDMA.
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Yeah, I tried molly twice. Once orally and once bumped. I really wasn't impressed. I got high, but it wasn't like tripping and I didn't find the body load to be particularly enjoyable. The euphoria was alright, but not as good as I was expecting, no better than booze and weed at any rate. The second (and last) time I had some kinda back spasm or something and threw out my back. My shit was fucked for about a week after. I do have chronic back pain already, though.

Sorry I don't share your view on MDMA. I would definitely rather enjoy it than hate it, but shit. Its a stupid fucking drug. Totally pointless and without substance, and wicked harsh comedown and hangover to boot. I just calls 'em as I sees 'em.
 
Yeah, then I would definitely reconsider your sources. Work on your MDMA dosing too, I recall the first few times I took crystal I underdosed and completely missed it and actually thought MDMA was fairly overhyped, but once I began getting some decent quality pills I understood the reputation behind it. There is a real big difference, between booze and weed and MDMA - that's the only thing that makes me think it might be worth giving it another go.

I don't recommend ever bumping solely MDMA by the way, it's good to dose oral and maybe bump up. But to be honest, eating laid out doses is the way to go. Much more practical and conservative.
 
Yeah, I heard later that the stuff I bumped was cut with salt (burned like a MOTHERFUCKER), but I don't think that it should have affected the trip much. By all accounts the first dose was clean and high quality. With the come down and hang-over as bad as it was for me, I have little incentive to increase my dosage.
 
You might be one of the unlucky few then! I never found MDMA carrying a comedown until I used large amounts of it. I found the likes of a mephedrone or most other stimulant comedown about 10x worse - although they don't last as long, lets not forget the term Suicide Tuesdays. ;)

How are you with other stimulants? Do you like them or do you tend to have a similar reaction to them all? It's unfortunate, everyone deserves a few good go's at pills before they start hitting comedowns. :(
 
mydeepestblue said:
Okay reading all the reviews I've come to the conclusion that mushrooms are more peaceful than LSD, while research chemicals can kinda have the best/worst of both worlds.

Which of the psychedelics would you say is closest to the very happy, peaceful, floaty feeling of MDMA? I'm looking for something more peaceful in mind and body, yet that has STRONG visuals. Mostly looking to trip for the visuals here. So far sounds like shrooms is the answer.
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I wouldn't be so hasty to draw those conclusions just by what people have said here. In contrast, some of my most profound experiences have been with "research chemicals". There is no difference in the quality or authenticity of the experience between these and the organic or classic psychedelics.

I'm thinking mescaline may be the kind of thing you have in mind. It can be very visual - in a stunning way - but the experience provides an emotional connection to your world that may have you in tears of joy or agape with awe. It's phenthylamine friends - the 2Cs - can provide this kind of experience too. 2C--T-2 and 2C-E are particularly fond of the mescaline high. Some comparisons are made often between the emotional opening on mescaline/san pedro and that on MDMA. There are some parallels. Although the 5-HT psychedelics do this in a way which seems perhaps more wholistcally meaningful because of the other psychedelic elements and enhanced cognition. .
 
^^Yeah, RC's are the best and the worst because there are a metric fuck ton of them. Some of them are great, and some suck. Its kind of what you would expect to find from a sample size of thousands, with possibly endless molecular variations. I also agree that san pedro might be to your liking.

SpecialK_ said:
You might be one of the unlucky few then! I never found MDMA carrying a comedown until I used large amounts of it. I found the likes of a mephedrone or most other stimulant comedown about 10x worse - although they don't last as long, lets not forget the term Suicide Tuesdays. ;)

How are you with other stimulants? Do you like them or do you tend to have a similar reaction to them all? It's unfortunate, everyone deserves a few good go's at pills before they start hitting comedowns. :(
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I've been good on other phenethylamines in the past (mescaline, 2c-e, 2c-i, etc.)

I tend to stay away from stims, though. Caffeine is where I draw the line. I feel pretty intense most of the time already, and adding ups tends to make me twitchy.

I honestly don't feel like I'm missing out on much. I always found people on MDMA to be kind of annoying, but then again I was usually on acid in those days. Shrooms tended to mesh a bit better with the candy crowd, I found.
 
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