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Question about xanax+kpins

joshua622

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hello, so i've never done benzos before, and i got 2 1mg xanax, and 30 0.5mg of kpins, today i took .5 of the xanax and it definitely helped my anxiety, was able to do stuff that my anxiety normally would stop me from doing. When i felt it was wearing off i took 1 0.5 klonopin, its been about 2 hours and i honestly barely feel any different since taking it, just more tired. I have a few questions.

1. The xanax defintely seemed to have a higher effect on me, would you suggest taking 1mg or even the 1.5mg to feel a good high?
2. How many klonipins would I need to take to feel a high or want to go out and do something.
3. I may drink this weekend, how long after taking the klonopin or xanax would I be able to drink safely?, or if i do take them recently before drinking, about how many drinks should i limit myself too, ie (1 shot? 2-3 beers?)
4. If i drink on either, what signs should I look for to limit myself. I heard benzos increase alcohol by 3x, so i may feel a buzz after only having 1 beer?
5. any tricks to make either pills work faster?

Once again I have no tolerance to benzos, I used to have a prety high tolerance to alcohol, but haven't drank in a while so its gone down. Don't wanna go overboard. I'm about 6'2 170lbs

Thanks
 
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also whats your opinions on smoking weed on either xanax or kpins? I used to enjoy being high, but now I just get nervous and my heart races (when i smoke alot) would the benzos cancel those effects out so I just feel good from the weed?
 
1. no, stay at the lowest dose that is effective for your purposes. Tolerance skyrockets with benzos.
2. 1mg should do it without a tolerance.
3. for kpins you should wait 2 days, for xanax i'd give it 12 hours at least. Don't mix with alcohol, chance of blackout is too great.
4. IME you won't know the signs until the next day, that is if you remember. Once you can't walk and are slurring your words, you've gone much too far.
5. put them under your tongue and let them dissolve.

for your other question: it will kill the anxiety from your high, you'll be relaxed and care free. If you are going to combine benzos with anything, cannabis is probably your best bet.
 
thank you so much for your reply, so ill try 1mg of kpins tomorow then.

I am not planning on getting stupid drunk just want a slight buzz, like 1 beer only, maybe even half of a normal 12 oz can since its intensified by the benzos. Do you think I would be fine if i did that? and if you had to choose, which one would be 'saffer' of the two - if there is one - to drink with alcohol.

One last thing. I may also smoke weed that night so, .5 xanax, - or - 1mg kpin + 1/2 a beer - 1 beer (12oz) - and maybe a blunt or bong rip? Do you think I would be fine under those circumstances, if so which order should I do them in.

Awesome. glad to hear benzos+cannabis are a good mix, so i dont have to worry about the weed making me all nervous and my heart racing, ill just be chilling? :)
 
For me, weed and alcohol were a horrible mix.
If I were on weed and alcohol taking any xanax would be a knockout.
So it might not be dangerous, but it could still make you feel shitty.
 
i used to drink and smoke (aloot) and it was a great mix for me, but ya id pass the fuck out.

My plan is to only have have half a 12oz beer or 1 12oz beer tho with the xanax, and i do have great self control so after doing so I won't have any problems or urges to have more. Like I said I don't wanna get drunk even just a nice buzz.

With that being said do you think I would be fine if i took .5 xanax (or 1mg kpin), drank a beer, and maybe smoked some weed about an hour-2 later and possibly take another .5 xanax after that?

the reason im asking is cus im seeing an old friend and am very nervous so thats why i wanna take the benzo before, and i don't wanna show up drunk lol
 
Please do not drink on benzos. It's not worth the risks. People often do things like drink way more than they intended. And it can make you black out, pass out and even kill you (and surprisingly easily). We have no idea what a safe amount of alcohol would be for you personally, there are so many variables (like what is your tolerance to alcohol normally?). If you are going to not take this advice and are going to drink anyway, then yes of course a small amount of alcohol is going to be safer than a larger one. But effects like memory loss and doing/saying stupid shit are common, so if you're trying to make a good impression on your friend it's not a good idea. If you're set on drinking with your benzo, take half the suggested amount of benzo and drink less than half the amount that would normally get you slightly buzzed, and drink it slowly and only after the benzo has taken complete effect (so that you can - hopefully - judge the effects you are experiencing from the benzo, although benzos are tricky in that you often don't realize how much they're affecting you). And I definitely wouldn't mix benzos + alcohol + cannabis.

It is an especially bad idea to mix CNS depressants such as alcohol and benzos when you are not familiar with them - in your case this will only be your second time ever taking benzos. Someone on Bluelight just died 2 days ago from taking a new CNS depressant after taking another CNS depressant. It happens all the time.
 
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thanks for your reply, i may just go there, take 1mg klonopin, smoke some weed, and have like half a beer or a regular 12oz beer later on. might not even have the beer depending on how im feeling.

also how long does the anti-anxiety/high last on klonopin? would i be able to smoke more then usual since i wont have to worry about getting the anxiety, panic attacks, and fast heart beat when i smoke alot
 
Well it varies from person to person, but generally the main effects last around 8 hrs then gradually taper off. But clonazepam (Klonipin) stays in your system for a lot longer, so please be aware that even if you can't feel it anymore you are still at increased risk if you take more benzos, drink alcohol, or take other CNS depressants for about 2 days.

I would not recommend smoking more weed than usual, I would start out with smoking less weed than usual and see how it affects you.
 
I am partial to k-pins, I eat 1 mg, subligual 1 and snort one... I love the minty feeling in my nose and drip! And yea, it helps with the variables that come from smoking pot.... I have to have a balanced "chemical" feel not to freak out on some of this crazy shit my son gets a hold of. He's a pro, I just dabble once in a while.
 
About mixing alcohol with clonazepam. A doctor will recommend you don't drink but also tell you that a lot of people will experiment to find what their limit is. From a personal experience, I have mixed alcohol with 0.5 mg clonazepam on several occasions. The first was a very uptight testing phase where I just had one beer about. I was nervous about it but it was fine. The next time I mixed it with about two beers - still fine. The next time I had about four beers. I have been on 0.5 mg clonazepam 2x daily for about 5 months and the last time I drank alcohol I had two pitchers of Pabst blue ribbon beer which would be about the equivalent of 7 or 8 beers. I was not wasted but I was pretty buzzed. My recommendation is that if you want to experiment start very low and work your way up. Also, if you are craving alcohol then don't do it as you might go overboard (however, i think cautious people will keep in mind that they are on a benzo). I have a predisposition to alcohol so I am more prone to get addicted to it. Keep in mind that everyone has a different body chemistry - one thing may get a person high may not get the next person high - this also fits in with tolerance.
 
after a couple of months w/o xanax i feel pretty relaxed from 2mg but it takes 6mg of klonopin to do the (almost) same thing
 
About mixing alcohol with clonazepam. A doctor will recommend you don't drink but also tell you that a lot of people will experiment to find what their limit is.

This is true but not recommended when someone is using benzos recreationally and/or just starting on them. So that is one of the reasons my answer was very cautious (the OP is both using recreationally and it's only their 2nd time taking it). You also made a good point about remembering that everyone is different and tolerance plays a big role as well. What might be fine for one person could make another black out.
 
I actually stated, more then once, i am not using them recreationally. I also already said that 0.5mg of clonazepam didn't do anything for my anxiety, just made me feel a little more tired, which is why I asked how much I should take to get anxiety relief. Someone suggested 1mg. I can tell you that I took 0.5 of a xanax yesterday, and it worked wonders for my anxiety, but like I said the clonazepam didn't. Since I had no anxiety, i felt a 'high' alone, which is the high i was referring to.

With that being said, I am going to try 1mg of kpin today to see if it helps out my anxiety. and i am definitely not going to have more then 1 can of beer, probably even less, if I do decide to drink ( may just take a benzo and smoke weed).

I should also mention that when I was 18 I had a few shots of tequila, and then my friend brought out some xanax I think the 1mg ones. He was crushing them up and snorting them, and told me to try it, being 18 and dumb I snorted 2-3 lines without knowing what they do to you. I blacked out a little bit but was fine obviously.

Also should I talk to my doctor telling him that 0.5mg of the clonazepam didn't work (he suggested i take half of one o.O) I think he doesn't know how bad my anxiety is ha.

edit: Going to take 1mg of clonazepam under the tongue today, supposedly works better*
 
Ok, fair enough, I just considered it "recreational" use since you had used words like "to feel a good high", didn't mention they were prescribed, and have a desire to mix them with other drugs/alcohol. Either way, I'd still be extra careful with alcohol (and other drugs) since you just started taking them and don't really know how your brain/body will react yet, plus you are taking more than prescribed, so your plan to just take 1mg of klonipin, and either have only a small amount of alcohol or smoke some weed sounds like a good idea.

I would give the prescribed doses some more tries. If your true goal is to just take them therapeutically to relieve anxiety your aim should be to feel nothing except less anxious. If you give a good shot at taking them as prescribed and you truly still feel very anxious (sporadic anxiety in situations which would make anyone anxious is not something that needs to be eliminated, just lasting anxiety for no reason or debilitating panic attacks) then definitely talk to your doctor about it. If you are taking more than prescribed you will run out early and your doctor needs to know why before it gets to that point. Please also bear in mind that benzos only mask anxiety temporarily and do nothing to get at the route causes, and create a serious dependence if you take them every day (instead of only when absolutely needed). Even while medicating anxiety people should also be working on decreasing their anxiety through non-drug options.
 
Thanks for your reply, I am prescribed the clonazepam, and my bro was prescribed xanax, he had 2 left which he gave to me. So the 0.5 of the xanax eliminated my anxiety, but the 0.5 of the clonazepam didn't really come into effect in my opinion. With that being said I know that xanax is stronger, but about how much clonazepam = 0.5 of xanax? I looked online, but honestly I saw so many different answers, even that 0.5 = 0.5 in effectiveness, which it clearly doesn't.

Also I love smoking weed, but now half the time I get bad anxiety and panic attacks. Depends on what I smoke really, the other day I smoked a hybrid sativa dominant and had 0 anxiety and was feeling great. I was also in a good worry free environment so that was probably a factor as well. I am going to try to smoke a little bit of weed today after taking the clonazepam to see how it feels. Do they make each other stronger in any way? or is it just a really good high with 0 worries. thanks.
 
thank you so much i did take it sublingually about 30 minutes ago. I will wait to smoke some of my amazing top shelf cali bud yum
 
haha wow. i felt the benzo kick in cus i wasn't tense about something that i usually get tense about. So i decided to smoke, and holy shit. I feel amazing with 0 anxiety, just enojying my high. I feel like I can talk to a police officer right now (even though I have my medical marijuana card)

btw i took 0.75 of a klonopin. If i start getting tired can i drink some coffee or like half a redbull or will that take away the anxiety relief?

also, as far as mixing benzos and liqour, how do they affect each other, as in do I just get drunker faster, or what

and last question. is there anything really thats bad about mixing benzos + marijuana? as in can you die for some reason compared to alcohol and benzos.
 
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