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Question about the Actavis Opanas

Stoned Sour

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I got a hold of the 15mg Actavis Opanas & was happy to see how easily they could be crushed.
knowing nothing about these I was curious about the inactive ingredients.
I remember hearing about the dangers of snorting the old formula cause it could coat your lungs with something.
are these anything like that?
 
The Actavis Opana 15mg tablets contain the following "inactive" ingredients: colloidal silicon dioxide, hypromellose, magnesium stearate, microcrystalline cellulose, titanium dioxide and yellow iron oxide [source]. Not stuff you really want to be snorting, especially on a frequent basis, but plenty of people do. The basic idea is that particles can end up in your lungs, potentially causing serious problems. I think the ingredient in Opana that everyone was worried about was silicified microcrystalline cellulose, which is not the same as regular microcrystalline cellulose, but there have been some concerns raised over some of the ingredients in these Opana as well. I can try to do more research on it if you want.
 
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yeah doesn't sound like something I want to be snorting, hell doesn't sound like something I want to be ingesting period lol.
most pills I don't mind taking orally, but opanas seem to be 10x stronger when snorted.
anyways thanks for the info, I wouldn't mind finding out more about it.
I know plenty of people who snort them so I would like to research it more, anything you find out I would love to know.
I should quit snorting them, but the addict in me thinks otherwise.
 
After months of sniffing the old opanas, I developed adult onset asthma. While I do have allergies, and it was always assumed that I would get asthma as a kid, I never did. The fact that I never had it until i was 20 and sniffing opanas said a lot to me. I'm sure as shit glad I stopped.

I am not saying definitively that the opanas are what caused it. Merely that out of left field, a 20 year old dude develops asthma months after sniffing opanas. Sniffing opanas was the only thing I did differently in my life at the time.

Take from this what you will.
 
that's interesting, does seem strange that it happened around the same time.
when I first heard about the potential dangers of snorting opanas I was pretty skeptical,
now that i've heard more about it it seems possible.
I guess there's really no way to tell until it's too late and people start developing something serious.
I don't do opanas that much, but now that someone close to me has a script of these things it could get pretty bad.
hopefully all the warnings will stop me, after I finish off these 2 hopefully I can be done with it.

anyways thanks for the info guys, I need to pass this on to a few people I know.
 
<snip - sorry, no sourcing allowed, even indirectly -SD. >
 
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Just thought Id add in I have been snorting these daily, about 6-7 (90-105mgs) every day. Only thing I have noticed that they leave white clumps in your nose which requires a neti-pot so you can rinse you. I use the Net-Pot 2x daily, Other than that I have had no ill effects. Ive been snorting these for right around 8months now.
 
yeah doesn't sound like something I want to be snorting, hell doesn't sound like something I want to be ingesting period lol.
most pills I don't mind taking orally, but opanas seem to be 10x stronger when snorted.
anyways thanks for the info, I wouldn't mind finding out more about it.
I know plenty of people who snort them so I would like to research it more, anything you find out I would love to know.
I should quit snorting them, but the addict in me thinks otherwise.

More details:

So in general there are warnings about snorting pills, especially on a regular basis, as particles might end up in your lungs and your body can't remove them, potentially causing damage.

I will go through each ingredient for you:

Microcrystalline cellulose + colloidal silicon dioxide

The big scare about the old Opana was that they contained silicified microcrystalline cellulose (SMCC), a "patented combination of microcrystalline cellulose (MCC) and colloidal silicon dioxide (CSD)". These Actavis Opana contain microcrystalline cellulose + colloidal silicon dioxide, so I'm thinking isn't that just the same thing? Or is the "silicified" MCC some weird process of combining the 2 ingredients in a way different from just putting them both in the same pill? I don't know...

Potential for Silicosis - One of the main worries with SMCC is the idea that it could potentially cause silicosis, which is a lung disease that may be fatal. Caused by inhalation of crystalline silica dust, silicosis causes inflammation and scarring in forms of nodular lesions in the upper lobes of the lungs. Silicosis can cause symptoms like shortness of breath (normally exacerbated by exertion), coughing (often persistent), fatigue, rapid or laboured breathing, decreased appetite, chest pains, and fever. It is often misdiagnosed as asthma, pulmonary edema (fluid in the lungs), pneumonia, or tuberculosis. People with silicosis are more likely to develop these lung diseases as well however. Silicosis symptoms can develop anywhere from weeks to many years after exposure. There is some controversy as to how high the risk of silicosis is from snorting pills, with some people being like "ZOMG never snort Opana you will die!!!" and some people being like "I think it's bullshit scaremongering". Personally I think it's somewhere in the middle. There are a number of threads on this topic, for example: OPANA ER insuffalation and Silicosis

Titanium dioxide - Titanium dioxide, when inhaled, has been classified as a carcinogen. Studies found that powdered titanium dioxide caused respiratory tract cancer in rats exposed by inhalation. Particle deposition, impaired lung clearance, cell injury, fibrosis, mutations and cancer have also been seen in people working in environments where they inhale titanium dioxide dust. Studies have also found that titanium dioxide nanoparticles cause inflammatory response and genetic damage in mice.

Other ingredients: *I have no idea how safe these ones are for snorting*

Hypromellose - a "semisynthetic viscoelastic polymer" which gels up in water

Magnesium stearate - this is a filler in almost all pills, is not soluble in water

Yellow iron oxide - a pigment

Conclusions: I really don't think anyone knows the exact level of risk from snorting these pills. Obviously using opioids is an inherently unsafe activity to begin with, and many addicts care more about getting high or saving money than potential health risks, especially long-term health risks that don't develop immediately. It's difficult with Opana because I don't know of any safer ways to use it that get anywhere near the bioavailability. Some people say they have good results with rectal administration, but others say it's way less strong than snorting. Haven't tried it myself so don't have any personal experience to offer. I would say it's worth a try at least. Some people post methods for snorting to try to reduce how much powder ends up in your lungs, I don't really know how well this works. Sorry I can't be of more help :)
 
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Sorry I can't be of more help :)
you helped alot actually, it was very informative.
I'm going to quit snorting them and if I don't get the desired high from taking them orally i'll just use a different opiate.
it's bad enough that I take pills at all no need to add anymore risk.

thanks again
 
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