Question about steriods in general.

Kipo

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Now, i have never done steroids in my life. And I am extremley biased against them. I joined this site in order to expand my mind and educate myself about the reality of these drugs as i have never done anything past dxm. Im shocked to find people casually talking about opiates and phycadelics. So, here come the questions.

How does this affect your body in the long run?
Any Tell tale signs of it? (ex with weed: heart racing, munchies, red eyes)
How does the high feel?
Can it really help you build muscle?
Is it addictive?

Im not planning on doing it more than once, although i do want to try it. Thanks in advance, please exuse any stereotypes i may have hit.
 
You're really searching to get flamed.

Steroids aren't recreational drugs. Steroid use more or less requires a lifestyle change and one should dedicated their life to lifting for a few years before using.

Eat big, lift hard and sleep for 8+ hours a day. You need to have given up on 90% of the things "normal" people do before partaking.

As far as feel I guess testosterone makes one feel confident. Personally that's all I've ever tried.

Wait for others to give you the scientific low down. I'm hungry.
 
There is no high. If there were, people would abuse them, gain a tolerance, overdose, etc.

There's no incentives for over-dosing testosterone or any other steroid for that matter.

It's not addictive because it's not reinforcing.

You're really searching to get flamed.

Steroids aren't recreational drugs. Steroid use more or less requires a lifestyle change and one should dedicated their life to lifting for a few years before using.

Eat big, lift hard and sleep for 8+ hours a day. You need to have given up on 90% of the things "normal" people do before partaking.

As far as feel I guess testosterone makes one feel confident. Personally that's all I've ever tried.

Wait for others to give you the scientific low down. I'm hungry.

These are all great tips. I wouldn't suggest 8+ hours of sleep per day, unless you are still young (adolescent years), in which case, you shouldn't begin steroids at this age to begin with.

Most adults past their adolescent years can function well with just 5 to 7 hours of sleep per night. The author of this psychology book went with only 5 hours of sleep per night and recorded their results. 5 hours is probably on the low-side, and 6 to 7 is probably the best.

This book even analyzed on average, the number of hours an individual will sleep in a night, and found that the people who lived the longest, averaged 5 to 7 hours of sleep per night. Below or above that, and on average, people started dying younger.

Im not planning on doing it more than once, although i do want to try it. Thanks in advance, please exuse any stereotypes i may have hit.

You would either not do steroids, or use them more than once. You wouldn't use it just once, nor would you really want to.
 
Thank you guys for being understanding. I thought there was some sort of high to it. Now i feel stupid.
 
there Now i feel stupid.

Good, because you are if you think roids are something to just "try".


You don't understand how much a lifestyle already has to be in place before you think about running a cycle. They aren't just something to kickstart your gains or give you a reward for working hard. It's the next level. Steroids give you what your genetics cannot. The earlier you use them before your genetic plateau, the sooner you'll burn-out, and the more your potential will be stunted. I'd be willing to bet the majority of users here aren't even close, despite already going that route.

Do not compare roids to anything else on this website. Frankly, putting a steroid section on bluelight is the dumbest shit I have ever seen, but it's here nonetheless. Do more reading on the internet. If you're serious about lifting then you better stay up days, pulling all nighters and reading everything you can.

I'm not giving you the scientific low-down because it's just way too fucking much to explain. To be honest, you don't deserve that kind of time from me, so you're going to have to learn small bits of info, instead of getting a full FAQ. Sorry, but that's just the way it works with these drugs.
 
Hey bro, head over to anabolicfitness.net and tell them fukkenshredded sent you. You'll get the best information you can get anywhere there, I guarantee it. And what the above poster said about doing roids more than once is true. Once you go there, you're not coming back. So think it through. Good luck!
 
Thank you guys for being understanding. I thought there was some sort of high to it. Now i feel stupid.

No, most of the abused drugs would be full agonist opiates, stimulants like methamphetamine or dextroamphetamine or cocaine, psychedelic amphetamines like DO_, 2c-_, MDA/MDMA, other depressants like benzodiazepines, barbiturates, ethanol for some people (worst drug ever alongside tobacco), and then you have many other drugs which just aren't as common.
 
Do not compare roids to anything else on this website. Frankly, putting a steroid section on bluelight is the dumbest shit I have ever seen, but it's here nonetheless.
Well, it was done to remove their discussion from the other forums. Basically because they are serious and they do need a different forum...

Are there much better forums? Of course. But we'd be in a worse situation if we banned all discussion on steroids or had it take place in the recreational drug forums.
 
Well, it was done to remove their discussion from the other forums. Basically because they are serious and they do need a different forum...

Are there much better forums? Of course. But we'd be in a worse situation if we banned all discussion on steroids or had it take place in the recreational drug forums.

I agree completely.

I would also say that while Steroid Discussion has a lot of noobs who come through, it doesn't see many trolls like other sub-forums (by comparison), and there's a great core of very intelligent members - because of this I'm happy it's here.
 
Now, i have never done steroids in my life. And I am extremley biased against them. I joined this site in order to expand my mind and educate myself about the reality of these drugs as i have never done anything past dxm. Im shocked to find people casually talking about opiates and phycadelics. So, here come the questions.

How does this affect your body in the long run?Steroids will do anything from nothing to enhancing your body to destroying your body. Remember there are a SHIT-TON of different steroids with widely varying profiles. I can tell you that *you* won't enhance your body even if you have a box of gear in your possession, unlike most "recreational" drugs, steroids aren't something you just pop and wait for results. You reallly need to know what you're doing
Any Tell tale signs of it? (ex with weed: heart racing, munchies, red eyes)Depends which kind.
How does the high feel?Steroids don't really get you "high" in any sense of the word. Some people act like clowns when they're on a cycle, but I think most vets here would say they can say who most of these people are *before* the people take their gear. (ie "placebo effect". I think many here know people who start acting different like 5min after taking a shot - and to Kipo, a 'shot' of steroids is not an intravenous(vein) shot like w/ many/most other drugs, a shot of steroids isn't meant to hit you asap.
Can it really help you build muscle?Yes - but *help* is the most important word there. If you don't know what you're doing, you will find the situation 'neutral' at best, but 'regrettable' is almost guaranteed.
Is it addictive?Depends on the person - addiction can be psychological, physical, or both. People get psychologically addicted to gear, but it doesn't have a physical addiction profile like many recreational drugs.

Im not planning on doing it more than once,Steroids are occasionally done for *very* long/infinite periods of time, but most commonly are done in "cycles", where one uses for a pre-determined period of time, say 8-12wks. Taking them once is not how it works, steroids are not like recreational drugs. You could take a triple shot of test in the locker room, and you wouldn't hit bigger #'s in the gym that day. although i do want to try it.Don't. You're not remotely knowledgable enough, you will only hurt yourself. Generally speaking, one should already be *quite* far along in their training (as newer lifters don't need gear in any sense, they can already make great gains w/o it), and once they're considering anabolics, they should learn what the choices are so they know exactly which one(s) are for them (there are many). Then once that person is absolutely sure on which one(s) they'll use, how to use them, at the point in their training to use, they would actually go and acquire what they needed to run their cycle (it's not just gear - if you ran a successful cycle (again, you would not, I promise you), you'd still end up fuct because you were unaware of pct<post-cycle therapy>). Once you had everything in line, only then would you do a cycle. You don't just take steroids and see what happens, you take them already knowing what will happen. A completely different category than most 'recreational' drugs, although I wouldn't consider steroids a recreational drug in the 1st place. Thanks in advance, please exuse any stereotypes i may have hit.
You hit most of them ;P It's okay though, just DON'T use things you're unfamiliar with, and if you want to become familiar, know that you have a lot of reading/learning/preparation to do first, and that's the case w/ steroids more than most anything.

Good, because you are if you think roids are something to just "try".


You don't understand how much a lifestyle already has to be in place before you think about running a cycle.

Cuz being ignorant about a subject and trying to learn really makes someone dumb..

That lifestyle doesn't *have* to be in place, but I'll give you that you're wasting time, money, and hurting yourself if it's not. I've seen people do cycles that were pointless and they were fine (and thought steroids "weren't effective" LOL).
Most "stronger" drugs, whether steroids or crack, can really fuck you up if you don't know what you're doing though, so take people's advice and be (very) informed b4 making any decisions.




And having steroid-subby here is definitely worthwhile, I know the board is generally recreational-drug oriented, but we have places where we talk about everything from aspirin to nootropics to antidepressants to vitamins, it seems odd (and a disservice to bl) to omit steroids, and steroids almost necessitate their own subby (imagine trying to mix it in w/ HL ;PP)
 
Well a little advice for you from a youngster.

I started cycling at the age of 17. With my first cycle being 500mg of test-e evey week for 12 weeks. I have done 6 cycles now and im currently 19.

I just recently went to my GP to get a full blood check and im perfectly fine in that department. Liver functioning good, blood cell counts are all good etc. I believe steroids are the reason for my severe depression and anxiety. I also have problems having sex, i have slight gyno, i've had some pretty bad infections from injecting because of "dirty oils" and i am now alot more agressive than i used to be.

Yeah sure im big and ripped (6'5", 120kg's, 12% bf) but it really wasnt worth it in the long run.

Just my 2c
 
Well a little advice for you from a youngster.

I started cycling at the age of 17. With my first cycle being 500mg of test-e evey week for 12 weeks. I have done 6 cycles now and im currently 19.

I just recently went to my GP to get a full blood check and im perfectly fine in that department. Liver functioning good, blood cell counts are all good etc. I believe steroids are the reason for my severe depression and anxiety. I also have problems having sex, i have slight gyno, i've had some pretty bad infections from injecting because of "dirty oils" and i am now alot more agressive than i used to be.

Yeah sure im big and ripped (6'5", 120kg's, 12% bf) but it really wasnt worth it in the long run.

Just my 2c


You were way to young to begin using steroids. I am sure that your issues with sex are related to this.
 
Please don't take offense to this or take it the wrong way, I'm just curious as to why you decided to start at age 17?

I'm not going to be judgmental, I am just interested in what went through your mind. :)

I am sorry to hear you are having issues with anxiety and depression, have you been to a psychiatrist? You may have to go to many medical professionals before finding someone who may have a multifaceted plan which works for you.
 
it really wasnt worth it in the long run.

Tell me about it. 6 cycles and still a mediocre weight for your height.


Whatever though. What's done is done. Definitely see a psych if it's bothering you mentally.

Far as the endocrine department, you done fucked that up good by running a cycle at 17. Very dumb fucking idea, and I hope you know it, too.

I mean it's mostly speculation but I will be surprised, personally, if you don't have any long-term sex drive problems due to hopping on cycle that early. Get that shit checked out. All you can really do now is just be better prepared for the future. It's pretty much the lottery, at this point. Either you're fucked for good and you're gonna need viagra + HRT for the rest of your life, or nothing's wrong. 6 cycles without even finishing puberty, my money is on the former, though. Sorry.

The aggression and depression is all in your head. There are probably 2349 other drugs that are doing that to you, assuming you're a user, whether recreational or otherwise. Gear did not do that to you. You're just pissed because of the harmful effects that you're only starting to see just now, in turn making you bummed out and immediately blaming it on the roids.

In no way am I trying to come off as a dick in this post bro, but I can't exactly say I feel sorry for you, either. You played a stupid game. You won a stupid fucking prize.
 
He was 17, of course he was stupid voxide, we all are. He didn't realise what he was doing. I'm only 18 myself and I was thinking of starting but then I read into it ( I probably wouldn't have if I didn't research my recreationals) and realisesd how much of a stupid fucking idea it was.
At my age I make a lot of stupid fucking decisions, that I regret even the next day or week or whatever, at least I realise it unlike other dumb fucks out there. ( That wasn't aimed at anyone on this thread!!)

Bottom line - kids make mistakes
 
He was 17, of course he was stupid voxide, we all are. He didn't realise what he was doing. I'm only 18 myself and I was thinking of starting but then I read into it ( I probably wouldn't have if I didn't research my recreationals) and realisesd how much of a stupid fucking idea it was.
At my age I make a lot of stupid fucking decisions, that I regret even the next day or week or whatever, at least I realise it unlike other dumb fucks out there. ( That wasn't aimed at anyone on this thread!!)

Bottom line - kids make mistakes

Putting your shoes on before your jeans is stupid. Leaving your keys in the car is stupid. Coming home blazed and pretending to be sober is stupid. Running a cycle at 17 is flat out fucking retarded.

You can speak for yourself if you want, but I sure as hell wasn't going to risk the rest of my life at 17 for some cheap gains, hope you wouldn't either. Big difference between doing stupid shit and doing stupid shit that will take you to the grave.

Like I already told the kid, I don't want to come off as a prick, but there is no way in hell I'm going to feel sorry for him or anyone else who does dumb things without understanding the consequences. Especially when all it takes to understand those consequences is a couple minutes on the internet. It's a 17 year old kid. Not a 2 year old that accidentally draws all over a check book.
 
What I'm saying is that we are immature by nature, we do things without thinking. Its easy for you to dismiss that as you are probably a lot older than me. He probably didn't know the dangers because he wasn't told the dangers. Or thought - well if the media talk bullshit about ecstasy then its probably the same with steroids

I was of that opinion but I was smart enough to do my research. I plan on staying away for at least 5-7 years

Edit - I reread your post and understand better what you mean, its a dumb ass fucking thing to do
 
What I'm saying is that we are immature by nature, we do things without thinking. Its easy for you to dismiss that as you are probably a lot older than me. He probably didn't know the dangers because he wasn't told the dangers. Or thought - well if the media talk bullshit about ecstasy then its probably the same with steroids

I was of that opinion but I was smart enough to do my research. I plan on staying away for at least 5-7 years

That's great and all man, but here's the catch. He was 17 and has a computer. He had the opportunity to learn about the dangers but he did not. I'm glad he's taking a somewhat responsible stance on his very stupid decision. He was ignorant and suffered the consequences. Not like it matters to you or me anyway. He can just play off his ED and say it's all just nature. I'm not posting replies to argue with you, but I want to make sure it's clear that this was his fault and his fault only.

Also, I don't wanna get into it but as far as ecstasy goes, the dangers explained by the media really aren't too far off. Hang around some e-tards who have rolled themselves stupid and you will really see the truth behind what people think is all just scare tactics. Very interesting considering it was just another harmless innocent research chemical a couple decades ago.
 
Most things in moderation are fine. What we need is a better education system, not bans

Oh, I agree wholeheartedly, don't get me wrong, but in that very same respect in that liberal view on substances, the responsibility must be placed on the individual alone if shit hits the fan. Doesn't matter if we're talking about steroids or alcohol or ecstasy.
 
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