Heroin Question about smoking heroin...

[QuinnMallory]

I really, really do not want to waste my bag of H by smoking it, but it seems no one can give me a good answer as to getting my "tar" H into snortable form since it's just a compact ball of resin it seems now.

Anyways, I've chased the dragon a few times in the past but it's been awhile so I was just wondering when I put it on a piece of tin foil do I really need to tilt the tin foil so that when the H starts to liquify that it rolls down? Can't I just simply put the lighter underneath the foil and inhale the smoke through a straw without tilting the foil? It doesn't seem like when I tilt the foil that I get very much smoke at a time, where as when I just let it sit in one spot I get a good amount of smoke at one time. I do not see a lot of smoke not going in the straw so it doesn't seem to be a "waste", but perhaps this is not burning it correctly and I am wasting it by doing it this way. Any input from experience and not educated guessing would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 

[RedBaron]

If the flame is consistently heating one place, it will heat up your heroin until it burns up, instead of vaporizing. If you can't tell a difference, though, then go with what you prefer.

 

[DexterMeth]

You're not trying to smoke it, you're supposed to vaporize it. You want to use as little heat as possible, which is why people angle the foil, to keep the flame away (as well as directing the smoke more towards one direction).

You can "snort" tar, but it's far better to smoke it, you just need to practice your technique, or ask for help. There's no shame in not wanting to waste your dope.

As far as "snorting" goes, get a syringe or eye dropper, dissolve your tar in water (with heat under a spoon, etc), and while laying down on a bed or back in a chair or whatever, squirt little amounts of the liquified drug into the back of your nose and immediately plug your nostrils. Hold them closed with your fingers for a few minutes at a time then repeat.
Be very careful when doing this, as I imagine it's a lot easier to overdose this way than chasing because of how slowly it hits in comparison.

 

[Inlakesh]

The "Heroin Helper" web site is one of the best for all info Heroin from honest strait forward experience.

This link is for the index page on administration. It has some links with great info and instructional images for smoking tar and purifying it which should make insufflation easier. Note the purification procedures are potentially very dangerous.

http://www.heroinhelper.com/user/admin/index.shtml


The links for the smoking tar info:

http://www.heroinhelper.com/user/admin/one_person_smoking.shtml

http://www.heroinhelper.com/user/admin/smoke.shtml

 

[QuinnMallory]

Thanks Inlakesh, I actually read that page before asking and the first part didn't mention anything about "vaporizing" it and not "smoking". So if I want to vaporize the heroin and not smoke it, how do I know if I'm getting the vapors if I won't see smoke? I mean, how do I smoke the heroin without heating it up enough to make it smoke?

 

[OEandricearoni]

Thanks Inlakesh, I actually read that page before asking and the first part didn't mention anything about "vaporizing" it and not "smoking". So if I want to vaporize the heroin and not smoke it, how do I know if I'm getting the vapors if I won't see smoke? I mean, how do I smoke the heroin without heating it up enough to make it smoke?

Like an above poster said, you need to try to heat it with as little heat as possible. Try not to torch the foil, keep the flame a decent distance away so it heats up the tar but doesn't burn it. It takes some practice, but after doing it a few times you should get it. the reason why people tilt the foil is because they don't want the tar to burn. Once it starts to heat up and turn to liquid, if you tilt it it will move to a spot on the tin foil that isn't quite as hot, thus not burning it

 

[SkagKush]

i know this is slightly off topic but i have noticed with powder heroin, if you have proper technique. the dope hits the same way if you tilt or dont tilt, so i end up not bothering....just take my favored size straw pile, and take the hoot.....keeping in mind that powder vaporizes very quickly, where as tar can "trail" for along while.....

 

[QuinnMallory]

But my question is how do I know it's heated up enough and I'm inhaling vapors and not burning it to get smoke?

 

[Drench]

It will 'melt' quite quickly, if you have the foil tilted it will start to run leaving a trail and producing smoke and you're doing it correctly

 

[RedBaron]

But my question is how do I know it's heated up enough and I'm inhaling vapors and not burning it to get smoke?

I believe the liquid will make a noticeable sizzling sound if it's being heated to quickly to the point of burning up, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[MLBx503xTAT]

when i first was doing tar, i would cook it up like i was cooking up an IV shot... and then snort what u have in a tiny straw... and tilt your head back with the straw still in your nose, as the liquid will stlil be in there... u should be good after that! lemme know how it works for ya!

 

[MLBx503xTAT]

and if you dont tilt the tar when you're smoking it the tar doesnt have anywhere to go, so it globs up and wastes.... (dont quote me because im not 100% sure of the reason) but i know u need to tilt it for sure

 

[benzico]

Like an above poster said, you need to try to heat it with as little heat as possible. Try not to torch the foil, keep the flame a decent distance away so it heats up the tar but doesn't burn it. It takes some practice, but after doing it a few times you should get it. the reason why people tilt the foil is because they don't want the tar to burn. Once it starts to heat up and turn to liquid, if you tilt it it will move to a spot on the tin foil that isn't quite as hot, thus not burning it

i could not of said it better my self that is the correct way to do !

 

[QuinnMallory]

Whenever I get the heroin heated enough and tilt it so it runs down and doesn't burn up, I am not getting any smoke this way, that's why I don't understand why I'm not supposed to burn it if I'm supposed to be getting smoke.

 

[megamorph]

dude heat it gentley keep flame 3/4 inch away...tilt foil and follow it along so where the beetle goes you follow wiv lighter and your straw keep that slightly behind the beetle

 

[QuinnMallory]

Yes this has been mentioned plenty of times but when I follow it I am supposed to be inhaling smoke yes? In order for me to get it to smoke I have to burn it, which is what you guys are telling me I am not supposed to be doing which is why I am tilting the foil. When I keep the flame far enough away to make it boil and I follow it, there is no smoke that is coming out, therefore I am not inhaling anything so I am not understanding the point to this which is why I wish I could just figure out a way to snort the tar.

 

[caseface99]

I don't live in an area where there is any tar, i have always been accustomed to the hydrochloride (white powder) version, so forgive my ignorance.

Why don't people use something like a meth pipe when smoking heroin? Is there any specific reason?

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

Yes this has been mentioned plenty of times but when I follow it I am supposed to be inhaling smoke yes? In order for me to get it to smoke I have to burn it, which is what you guys are telling me I am not supposed to be doing which is why I am tilting the foil. When I keep the flame far enough away to make it boil and I follow it, there is no smoke that is coming out, therefore I am not inhaling anything so I am not understanding the point to this which is why I wish I could just figure out a way to snort the tar.

I think we've gotten you a little confused.

When you vaporize something you will see it emit vapors. This looks sorts like smoke but its not as thick and is more colorless than smoke. Think of the way a pot of boiling water emits steam vapor... when you properly vaporize a substance it should emit vapors that resemble steam (which is vaporized water afterall).

When you burn a substance it emits smoke. Smoke tends to be thicker and billows out more than vapor. With practice you will learn when you are burning it and when you are vaporizing it and with more practice you will learn how to vaporize it efficiently.

 

[BIGRIG]

can u smoke the non tar H ???

 

[stray cat]

OP, just to reemphasize what pedaltopedal said a couple posts up, when you "smoke" heroin, you are not really trying to smoke it, you are trying vaporize it. theoretically, there should not be any smoke, and you probably shouldn't see much steam or anything like that. in reality, you are going to burn a bit of it, so you'll likely see some smoke, but your goal is not to get it smoking a lot. you want to inhale the vapors. if you were to do it absolutely perfectly, you might not see anything at all. however, you would know you did it correctly because you would feel the effects from it.