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Heroin Question about cross tolerance and first time good h use

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pantiespending

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I has found a connect for #4 china white heroin and is unsure how much to start off with. I hav used street quality dope before however there was so much variance its hard to tell and naturally this is much better than any swims can find off the street. Normally swims DOC is opana however with opanas prices rising and theyre switch to the new formulation this is no longer an option. So I hav resorted to ordering fentanyl powder pre cut 99% with pharma grade lactose 1% fentanyl and asian #4. Now I has already done the powder fentanyl and its strong as fuck normally swims gta do 80 mg of opana but I snorted a lol over a .1 bump= ~1mg pure fent and im fucked out my mind for an hr or 2. my issue with this is the high is very short lived and doesnt give swim that all day high like opana or for atleast 6-8 hours. So now for why Im really here. The swim found is tested 78% pure(i know i have a police report from a seizure). So then how much H will swim need for a good hit and how long will this high last. I would like to get his answers before his product arrives. Realistically if I wants to continue opiate use he has to make the switch to heroin and fent This makes both of my options a no brainer but swim would like some input before swim does it. Also what if decides to shoot the dope as he as onlyy sniffed things before I will need a much lower dose right? s
 
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Don't use swim, just say 'I' (read the rules). Also, remove price discussion.
 
Still see swiiiim ;)

anyhoo, how much dope can you safely bang is a question we cannot really answer for you. If you are tolerance to opana, try to sniff a little (0.1) dope (or increments there of) and see where it gets you. Once you have established how much dope it takes you to get high you have an estimate of how much you can bang to get off.

unless you have a testing kit the only thing you can really do is start LOW and work you way up.

and yes shooting requires a MUCH lower dose than sniffing. again, it's a matter of starting low and working your way up.
 
^ like thoothpaste said start low just do a tiny bit.. be careful with that shit cuz ive heard that the china can be extremely potent.. so be careful and stay safe
 
Don't shoot it, if you are looking for more bioavailable routes and feel comfortable with it's potency having gauged it prior, look into rectal administration.
 
Thanks for the responses guys I'm still anticipating this china white to get here from nl :(. I tried banging some street dope, it worked not as good as I thought it would feel or did I fuck That up cuz I got high earlier( I sniffed 4 got hela high then banged 3 n not as much). Also, I'm real nervous to shoot the fent cuz I'm lactose intolerant. Is that a reasonable thing to be concerned for
 
TBH I have no idea, but no reason to think it would be (unless it's cut with baby formula or something with lactose in it or something). have you ever had problems with lactose in your dope's cut? Just wondering.
 
tricomb said:
Don't shoot it, if you are looking for more bioavailable routes and feel comfortable with it's potency having gauged it prior, look into rectal administration.
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*snip*

Don't hate on plugging, yet then encourage IV use. Get over your stigma of adminstering drugs rectally. It's infinitely more justifiable than putting needles in your veins - JSPete
 
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Actually what tricomb is trying to do, though somewhat hillarious, is very VERY well intended and well thought out. What better way to promote harm reduction than advising a user to try a different, almost comparable (even if it's still not nearly the same) but much safer ROA. Sooo yea, easy as it is to make fun of the guy, I think we should give him a break. Rectal administration is almost certainly the safest and most efficient ways to use most drugs for most people. So please, lets not give tricomb a hard time...
 
mr.scagnattie said:
For real dude..not every answer is to just shove something up your ass. You're pushing that angle hard, huh? Don't know what that says about you..every post I read from you is basically a suggestion to plug something.. most of us aren't so quick to just say, "Hey.. how about I start shoving shit up my ass?"
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If you have beef with me, you can send me a private message. Don't break the rules and recommend IV drug use. What is your answer to the OP? Jump to IV? What do you have against rectal administration? Gauging by the tone of your post, you associate plugging with something sexual, so perhaps you aren't confident with your sexuality or are homophobic? Either way, I don't see what your problem is! If you can explain yourself in a level-headed mature way, feel free to do so.
 
toothpastedog said:
Actually what tricomb is trying to do, though somewhat hillarious, is very VERY well intended and well thought out. What better way to promote harm reduction than advising a user to try a different, almost comparable (even if it's still not nearly the same) but much safer ROA. Sooo yea, easy as it is to make fun of the guy, I think we should give him a break. Rectal administration is almost certainly the safest and most efficient ways to use most drugs for most people. So please, lets not give tricomb a hard time...
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Hah, whatever brother. All I know is that where I'm from, you come into a dope house or walk into the park and tell everyone to start shoving their rigs up their ass..you'll probably get shot..

That being said, it is safer..so by all means, plug away. Plug away.
 
Where you're from has nothing to do with it.

There are certain rules and standard you as member of this website have already agreed to adhere to. Although I don't think you were really encouraging IV use (as the OP seemed intent on such), you have no business trying to marginalize or insult someone for making a suggestion that promotes the values of our little online community here.

This is not the dope house. This is not the park.

This is BLUELIGHT...
 
So then how much H will swim need for a good hit and how long will this high last. I would like to get his answers before his product arrives. Realistically if I wants to continue opiate use he has to make the switch to heroin and fent This makes both of my options a no brainer but swim would like some input before swim does it. Also what if decides to shoot the dope as he as onlyy sniffed things before I will need a much lower dose right? s
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Could have gone either way I guess, but to me that looks more like intent to shoot than not. But regardless, it doesn't make you posts any less valuable in terms of trying to get someone to do something safer than what they might have been thinking about.

Well, and I guess because the OP reponded that he tried shooting up, so knowing that makes it seem more like he/she was intending to to begin with, but as they say everything can seem like it is 20:20 in hindsight.
 
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toothpastedog said:
Where you're from has nothing to do with it.

There are certain rules and standard you as member of this website have already agreed to adhere to. Although I don't think you were really encouraging IV use (as the OP seemed intent on such), you have no business trying to marginalize or insult someone for making a suggestion that promotes the values of our little online community here.

This is not the dope house. This is not the park.




This is BLUELIGHT...
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Yeah, and who do you think makes up bluelight? It's the users from the dope houses and the parks, etc. That's whose on this site, brother. Users who have lived out in the real world and dealt with some of the crazy people that live in it. Talking about things with this rosy film on them doesn't help anybody. The real world of drugs and addiction is hard and brutal and if this site wants to help anybody, it can't forget that. Sure there are the young people on here, experimenting and seeing this world for the first time, but a lot of us aren't and it's our duty to prepare them for the real world and all of its harshness, not string them along.
 
Tricomb: No, totally. You know I don't think you did anything improper here. (Assuming your briefs are on and you haven't been masturbating to all this the whole time.)

;)

For the record, not all opioid users or heroin junkies live in parks and dope houses. I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of them did not... I know just was many who don't as who do at least, and I've been in both positions, no thanks to anyone but myself. Then again, the lifestyle certainly doesn't so much lend itself moving up the social ladder.

Wait, this all started with someone's latent homophobia... why am I even encouraging this?!

But anyways, as someone much wiser than me once said. Why don't we all just

Cut. The. Shit.
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And let it go until we have something productive to discussion. I think we've all made our points as much as can be.
 
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