Question about 1st 4-AcO-DMT experience

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Hi
Today i bought 4-AcO-DMT in 12.5mg capsules with the intention of taking one alone when everyone is sleeping, having some candles and incense, music of various types ready to play and trying to make my room the most comfortable place.

I’m not having the best days of my life lately and I thought this was a good opportunity for me to (try to) think about everything and see things from another perspective.

Would you recommend me another occasion (like outside with another person), or there isn’t a big deal with that?
Every experience I had before (shrooms, mdma) I was never alone, and I could manage really well to be calm and get the best of the trips. But now I’m a little afraid of feeling uncomfortable or anxious for being at home and…well maybe I’m just being stupid by getting nervous with nothing.

Would you do it this way?? There is something you would do to have a better trip by yourself?
Thank you*

 

[auriuman78]

This sounds dangerously close to a "should I take xxx" question... but I just read and re-read it like 4 times to make sure and it seems to me you're not asking a should I but more of a "is this a good setting" type of question. Having said this:

I just did this exact thing. I watched reruns of Looney Toons and Tom & Jerry on cartoon network. It was a great afternoon, although I'd have to say I overdid my dose a little. It was a bit intense at the peak but all in all it was still wonderfully enjoyable. I played with my kitten for a little while during the really intense part.

It always goes to say that set and setting are very important things before any psychedelic experience. Everyone reacts differently to things. This particular psychedelic, which I've got quite a bit of experience with, is especially forgiving unless you grossly overdose on it. The dose you've described is nowhere near that and in my opinion should be a wonderful time.

 

[TheAzo]

That sounds reasonable to me - I wouldn't hesitate to take that dose in that sort of setting, nor would I have when I had more limited experience tripping. Be sure to take it as soon as people are asleep, so you won't be up in the morning when they wake up (expect to not sleep for 6-8 hrs after dropping). But of course, only you can decide what you're comfortable with.

 

[Termino]

I've tripped by myself quite a few times. I try not to plan things too tightly... just have a few ideas in mind then go with the flow. Pull out a few CDs or setup a playlist, be sure there's tasty things to eat & drink; stuff like that. I try to do something during comeup so I'm not sitting there obsessing about it... maybe watch TV, go on Bluelight or just general websurfing, or even something like pull weeds or clean the bathroom... just something to take my mind off the trip until it happens.

I find 4-AcO-DMT to have a fairly mild comeup as compared to 'shrooms or 2C-E, but I still be sure I haven't eaten for several hours prior to dropping.

Sounds like you've thought this out pretty well and you're on the right track. Have a great trip!

 

[SpecialK_]

I think they are asking more about mentality as opposed to 'what should I take'.

Tripping at home I find puts you at a much easier mindset than outside. You have a lot less to think about, even the instinctal (is that even a word?) things; a friend put this in words for me really well one time. When your outside you instinctually (but still think) think about things such as looking left and right before crossing a road, not zoning out at things, etc. While at home you don't worry about these things, there is nothing to think about the world around you in order to maintain your safety (within reason), this for many people makes a much more comfortable mindset.

As for trying to solve your problems, I wouldn't take a psychedelic to do this as 9/10 times it makes the things worse. The actual problem may come into your head when thinking about things on psychedelics, but I wouldn't dwell on it too long or expect to find out an answer. It doesn't really work like that I find - although some people do!

Tripping alone is an interesting experience and I'd recommend it even once. Have a good trip and let us know how it goes!

 

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I’m happy you answered feeling less nervous now with all your positivism
I will wait like 1h until I take it (it’s only 23.30h here and my family is hypnotized by the TV lol)
Have been reading good reports on the internet as well (some bad too, but I think people sometimes forget to stay calm and enjoy...and take too much of it too --')
Thank you, seriously

 

[Flickering]

With most psychedelics, taking it for problem-solving works best with a quite low dose so you remain clear-headed enough but get that boost of creative-mindedness. Thanks for asking this question, I was interested to read what everyone thought, since I might be doing something similar in a few months.

 

[Axed]

At this dose, I think you'll be quite alright by yourself. 4-aco definitely gets crazy in higher doses though.
I've never done a full 4-aco trip by myself, but I have separated from my tripmates for some alone time, and it's really great. In those instances, I enjoyed just quietly sitting in a room (often it ends up being a bathroom for some reason haha), admiring the visuals, and thinking a lot.

 

[Korn3x]

personally i think you could handle 12.5 mg in front of your parents. i think you'd have a much better time riding a bike through your neighborhood. just make sure to wear sunglasses cuz sometimes your pupils get dilated. mine get dilated sometimes on a huge dose (like over 60mg), but usually they're not too bad around the 20mg range. 12.5mg would be underwhelming to me personally. 20mg was perfect for my first time, but each time after that i at least feel i need 40mg in order to have a decent time. being outside for a 4-aco trip is definitely a must for me. i would never constrict myself to being trapped in my room unless the purpose of my trip was to just focus on the closed eyed visuals for a few hours.

 

[Axed]

^Actually, yeah. Being outside on 4-aco is amazing, where you have the opportunity to immerse yourself in nature. Might I recommend going to a nearby park where you can spend some alone time?

 

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Hi! Just wanted to say it was the most wtf night I’ve ever had alone. Scared me a little mostly at the beginning, but it was kind of funny, this drug is so mindfuck! Sensations in waves, closed and open eye visuals, lots of confusion talking with my head, all to the point of exhaustion… The trip lasted about 2 hours. And now some residual paranoia and confusion lol. Yea it was nice in a really weird way. I'll need some time to assimilate what happened

Have anyone tried 4-AcO-DMT with some MDMA? How was it?
I remember thinking that maybe MDMA could make the 4-AcO-DMT trip less "tense"...am I wrong? :S

Thank you again!

 

[Korn3x]

^^
sometimes on lower doses i find the trip almost somewhat uncomfortable. if you don't take enough to really have a profound experience on it then i find the trip to be a disappointment and my thoughts don't flow as freely as they should. i recommend upping your dosage to close to 20mg or higher next time, and definitely try to get out in nature or visit a park or somewhere scenic. it makes a HUGE difference in how I enjoy the trip. trees, plants, grass, clouds, etc. look absolutely amazing on higher doses of 4-aco. if you do it outside i'm sure you won't have as much of the "wtf" moments. i like tripping by myself, but tripping with a close friend is a lot of fun too. next time try to see if one of your good friends will join you on your experience and maybe find some places to go exploring (look for some nice parks/nature trails in your area that are close, there's probably more than you think).