Q about san pedro

[bighooter]

I tried 12.5 g of san pedro about 2months ago when I was on Mirtazapine and felt hardly anything other than a little intoxicated.
Definatly no psychedelic visuals though.

I put 12.5g of chopped up bits of san pedro (brought from a headshop) in a saucepan with water and boiled then simmered for about 4 hours stirring every now n again then drank the juice aswell as eating the cati (horrid I know).

I am wondering did I do anything wrong or was the mirtazapine blocking the effects like it does with LSD?

Your help would be much appreciated as the dealer who I get LSD doesnt have any and I was planning on tripping this weekend, so hopefully this time i'll feel something from san pedro.

 

[TheAzo]

Yeah, that stuff will block mescaline. Acts as an antagonist at HT2A, where typical psychedelics work their magic.

 

[bighooter]

nice one bro,

Also can you just grind it up in a coffee blender and parachute/bomb it?

or does it need to be boiled?

 

[Survived Abortion]

TheAzo is correct. I thought you were coming off that stuff?:

Anyhow, I would recommend you take a larger dose. 12.5 grams of pedro is not really enough, I'm not sure why they sell it in those sizes but I know the ones you mean; they sell them in Camden where they used to sell shrooms. I'd recommend at least 25g for a good trip. Try that before going higher to judge the potency of the pedro. The math on the alkaloids goes as follows:

According to Erowid, dry San Pedro yields anywhere from 0.33% to 2.375% mescaline. Commonly reported yields of total alkaloids are usually rougly 1%, maybe a little higher.

A normal dose of mescaline is ~400mg (but you can go much higher).

Yields at lowest and highest reported potencies of San Pedro:
(0.33% mescaline) 12.5g San Pedro will yield 41.25mgs mescaline.
(2.375% mescaline) 12.5g will yield 296.875mgs mescaline.

Probably not enough for the kind of experience you're looking for. Erowid say that 300mg mescaline freebase is anywhere between 15 and 100 grams of dried T. Pachanoi (San Pedro)material. It's more likely around 30 grams (ish).

People are most often reporting a minimum of ~1% alkaloid yield from extractions. At 12.5 grams of pedro, this would be 125mg or more of alkaloid which is a threshlod dose, which is maybe why you only felt threshold effects. You might find yourself going up to 37.5 grams or even 50g for a strong trip. It's good if you are eating the cactus as well, it means you are sure to get all the alkaloids you can out of it.

 

[bighooter]

cheers mate nice one

i'm off mirtazapine now, typical though i come off mirtazapine and now i cant get any acid... just my luck.

So can I just put it in a coffee grinder and eat the powder?
I have no problem with the taste, but does it need to be boiled in water or you can just eat the powder raw?

 

[Survived Abortion]

Yes, you can eat the powder raw. I've heard of some people doing this, just washing it down with juice or wotnot, and I don't think I could stomach it that way, but if you've got a strong constitution then by all means. I've heard of people grinding it up and putting it in to gel caps as well, but you would have to swallow a lot of them obviously.

 

[bighooter]

sound as a pound mate

I used to chug like 40grams of poppy pod powder and believe me that is what you call harsh, san pedro is quite tastey compared to poppy pod powder believe me.