pyschedelics that cause or allow you to fall asleep

[Ondine]

So this question might be totally pointless, but it's something I've wondered about for a while.

Often times when I'm by myself at night, I'll find myself wanting to trip, but not wanting to give up a night of sleep. Obviously, and I've done this before, you can drop acid and then load up on benzos, dph, alcohol; enough to knock you out, but doing that obviously ruins the psychedelic experience.

I've heard about 2c-c being a more 'relaxing' psychedelic, but is it easy to fall asleep while you're on it?

Are there any psychedelics out there that won't keep you awake, or does anyone have a fairly safe and effective method of falling to sleep while tripping?

 

[IamMe90]

2c-c is the only psychedelic where I felt almost close to passing out from how tired I was.

edit: I'm not sure why post loading with benzos or other downers "ruins" the psychedelic experience though. I mean, obviously you're only going to start on the downers when your trip is pretty much over and you want to go to bed. In this respect, I don't see anything wrong with using benzos to get to sleep during the shitty and uneventful residual trip that follows the plateau.

 

[supbrehh]

ketamine isnt to hard to fall asleep on. at the same time it only last like 2 hours and idk if id go as far as to say its a psychedelic

 

[SirTophamHat]

Go with smoked DMT, friend.

Often times I have smoked it with intention of having an easier transition into sleep space. It really does work. As soon as I come out of the visionary state, if it's night time, sleep comes easily. It's immensely pleasurable and unique in that regard, when comparing to other 5ht2a antagonists.

 

[azgaza]

Smoking DMT is probably your best option if you want to sleep and do psychedelics in the evening. Mushrooms /4-aco-dmt don't last very long so if you start early enough that might be an option, for example start at 7-8 pm and then fall asleep a bit after midnight, maybe taking a downer in the comedown. Can't really think of anything else.

 

[It's a baby!]

I've seen people fall asleep on the peaks of hard mushroom trips. They both tripped very hard in their sleep, one friend described it as swimming through a fractal lattice, but he was definitely asleep, full-on snoring. Waking him up was hilarious, he was so disoriented. I find it pretty easy to fall asleep once the peak is over, even if there are still some visuals it's like falling asleep stoned.

So mushrooms for one, I think.

 

[jobe28]

A nice relaxing dose of DMT does it for me.

LOL I actually said that trying to be an idiot but people above actually said it was a good idea...

 

[Cyanoide]

As already mentioned, DMT and 5-MeO-DMT. I think I could fall asleep on 4-AcO-DMT sometimes. Sometimes I seem to be in a state of being half awake and half asleep on 4-AcO-DMT.

 

[bluedolphin]

I can't fall asleep on any psychedelic I've ever tried. Good luck

 

[mr.buffnstuff]

i used to smoke a nice bong of 60x salvia n get straight to bed before it kicked in... i used to trip n drift off to sleep all in one...
you could even use it on the tail end of a better trip like acid maybe?

 

[SirTophamHat]

I can't fall asleep on any psychedelic I've ever tried. Good luck

Yep. Falling asleep while tripping is next to impossible, and I think what It's A Baby was referencing is more like blacking out, really (I could be wrong).

I have tried to go to sleep while coming down from psychs many a time. The earliest I can go to bed after taking LSD is maybe 9 hours after dosing. With 4-ACO-DMT I have real trouble falling asleep until after the full trip passes, and for me that's around 6 hours.

 

[TheAppleCore]

I can't fall asleep on any psychedelic I've ever tried. Good luck

Yep. It seems like 5-HT2a agonism and sleep are two completely incompatible phenomena.


I'm often in the same position as the OP -- my solution is to trip first thing in the morning. By bedtime, the psyches have worn off, and I'm ready for a nice, refreshing night's sleep.

Sleep is, IMO, *the* most important thing you can do for your body. I place it slightly above good diet and exercise. Sacrificing sleep to get high is probably almost never a good idea.

 

[corky2]

I seem to be an oddball here, but I use to be able to sleep after the peak of high-dose, really really clean lsd...really crazy dreams thou...I use to wake up and go "were the hell was I?! that stuff was real!" In the fun-house.

Also amanita mushrooms, which I consider pychadelic, are ez to sleep on...tend to put you to sleep in high doses...also crazy crazy dreams

 

[Cyanoide]

Yep. Falling asleep while tripping is next to impossible, and I think what It's A Baby was referencing is more like blacking out, really (I could be wrong).
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I understood it the same way, or rather psychedelics that let you sleep very soon after the trip has weared off or starting to wear off. While tripping I don't think I actually could sleep, but 4-AcO-DMT can sometimes be so sedating it feels like I could fall asleep. I definitely can sleep when the trip starts to wear off, even if there still are visuals.

 

[TheAppleCore]

^ Yes, many psychedelics are quite sedating IME, including 4-AcO-DMT, DPT, and 2C-E. I always feel like I could easily fall into a deep sleep, but then when I lie down and close my eyes, sleeping proves totally impossible.

 

[slownerveaction]

a mixture of mxe and weed puts me to sleep - or does it? I don't remember laying awake last night, but this morning i felt like i hadn't slept at all. Maybe i was just zoned out for hours.

i haven't tried, but i can't imagine sleeping on any 2c including 2c-c. On 2c-c i feel sedated but also very awake.

The Good Book (PIHKAL):

(with 40 mg) “there were a lot of visuals—something that i had noted at lower levels. There seems to be less stimulation than with 2c-b, and in some ways it is actually sedating. And yet i was up all night. It was like a very intense form of relaxation.”

 

[Solipsis]

aMT, strangely enough. I don't think that's normal.
I've only gone up to about 35 mg IIRC.

 

[mecaib]

The come up on San Pedro was very sedating... lots of shifting surfaces and a strong desire to fall asleep. But when things started picking up I was anything but tired. Honestly, I don't I've ever been that wired on anything.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

I have been able to fall asleep on LSD and mushrooms before, but before the trip I was already extremely exhausted.
I doubt you'd be able to sleep much easier on 2c-c since it still is a phenethylamine, and I found 2c-e to be pretty stimulating.
I can sleep on ketamine until I get to shwacked, then I'm wide awake ahaha

 

[Jesusgreen]

aMT, strangely enough. I don't think that's normal.
I've only gone up to about 35 mg IIRC.

Actually I was still feeling the stimulating and psychedelic effects when I slept on aMT. No troubles whatsoever, just as easy to get to sleep as normal - so it's possible with a little effort I could have gone to sleep earlier in the trip too.

Unlike most people I actually find it very easy to sleep on the 2C-*s. I've actually fallen asleep just after the peak on 2C-E before.