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RCs Pyrazolam Megathread

It's always a dilemma re honesty: you get some real hard case docs out there, it all depends on your past experience with him. Why not make the switch to pyraz, and just not use the diazepam but cash the scripts? (Probably terrible advice, I know). It's funny you mention Librium; I believe it actualy contains amitryptaline, funnily enough, at least according to wiki.

It's drug buying day for me, and I might go for pyraz instead of etiz. (Found etiz a bit depressing if im honest).
 
Librium was the 1st ever Benzodiazepine (Chlordiazproxide) Alcholics are given it for the shakes it has the exact same half life as Diazepam , Diazepam is one of it's metabolites and that's how benzos began, I really like Librium and Valium together, 2 classics, and can't forget the old Temazepam I'd love a few of them right about now, DOPEMEGENTLY empty ur inbox so I can pm u back mate ;)
 
I tell you what those librium are perfect for alcohol withdrawals. When I did my detox a while back they eliminated almost all dt's. I was on a 7 day taper, starting on very high doses. It's funny-I noticed not a single effect from the librium whatsoever......none at all.

Benzoman, I'll empty up my inbox now (they stack up fast).
 
I think because Diazepam is a metabolite of Librium it potentiates it so you get the full effect , I would swap a valium for Librium any day of the week , both 2gether are a much better combination for me anyway, I've actually thought of just trying a high dose of Librium it's the stomach nerves that it kills just pure relief for me , I could go some right now lol
 
It seems to be very hard to obtain. By the sound of it, it's only used for alcoholism the se days (although I could be wrong). It's interesting that it was the very first type of benzo and it's still used. I have to be careful; I'm using these rc benzos too much lately, I'm quite worried actualy.

BTW U may need to re-send your pm benzoman, as my inbox isn't showin any new 'uns.
 
I'll do that now, yeah mate u obv like benzos for whatever reasons but if u aint got a script to back it up when u run out ur fucked, if Etiz if ur favourite use it twice a week , or Pyraz , that would be ok, not sure about the half life on the Diclaz its defoe longer tho Etiz is short and Pyraz is about 8 hours with no metabolites, do u smoke weed ?

Pmed u again mate;)
 
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Yeah, got your pm. I havn't smoked for a few months, but I have a deal with a mate: he grows high grade misty (you've never seen so many crystals
Its proper). The deal is he keeps the good stuff- the bud etc, and I get everything else for free! I'll get shopping bags full of leaf at a time. Obviously leaf is usualy shite, but this stuff...it's far, far superior to soapbar. (I think a lof of the crystals fall onto it or something). I'm not a big fan myself, I'll smoke a few times a month with a beer maybe.

Anyways, I'm gonna go 2 days without a benzo, see what happens.

Edit: did 10 etiz monday, 8 tuesday, 6 tonight.(I'm all out till my powder arrives) From what I gather a taper is still important even for short term use.
 
Ok here's my 2 cents worth on Pyrazolam and benzos, but first some background..

I suffer with chronic social anxiety and have taken Diazepam and Xanax on prescription (and my fair share of generic versions of these which can have variable effects), plus I use Etizolam regularly for sleep. So I know my benzo's and the dosage, the effects they have, both for anxiety relief and for sedation/sleep..

I obtained Pyrazolam (yellow pills scored from a well known RC vendor) as it looked like a cheaper and possibly good alternative to Xanax (my favourite benzo of choice for social anxiety and the most effective for me). I had high hopes for it, because of the longer half-life (9-11 hrs compared to Xanax < 6 hrs) and it's supposed to be less sedating than Xanax at higher doses..

Some have described Pyrazolam as "Xanax-lite". I would position it somewhere between Xanax and Diazepam in terms of effects, which are quite subtle and creep up on you. It does seem to have typical onset time if taken orally (40mins-1hr), despite claims of a fast onset.

It's quite weird actually how Pyrazolam works and difficult to put into words.. the only way I can describe it is like imagine a steep curve... at the bottom flat part (on 0.5mg) you have mild anxiety relief akin to 5-10mg diazepam (but without any sedation)... then suddenly, bam, if you up the dose of Pyrazolam (1.5mg-2mg) expecting more anxiety-relief, you're knocked out and sleeping.

So, for me, it is nowhere near as effective as Xanax for anxiety. Simply no comparison. If you're suffering bad social anxiety and expecting this to do for you what Xanax does, save your money and buy Xanax instead.

Yes, it has some type of benzo effect and you feel less anxiety (and sedated/sleep inclined at higher doses) but it's definitely not as precise and effective as Xanax is at targeting anxiety for me.. Xanax has a much faster onset too for me (especially if taken sublingually, i.e. dissolved under tongue)

Compared to Pyrazolam, Xanax not only removes anxiety totally for me but even makes me social. It doesn't sedate either at low to mid dosage (0.5mg-1mg), whereas Pyrazolam just takes the edge off anxiety, so I have to re-dose and end up crashing and sleeping on 1-1.5mg.

That said, experiences and effects tend to vary a lot with benzos. People use them for different reasons and have different tolerance levels of expectations in terms of the effects. I wouldn't dismiss Pyrazolam as benzo, but I also wouldn't say it's a great alternative to Xanax (or Diazepam for that matter) due to it being unlicensed, RC status and safety questions..

Here's how I use benzos:

1. Extreme Social Anxiety = Xanax (0.5 - 2mg)
2. Combat re-bound anxiety/withdrawals when not taking Xanax = Diazepam (5mg)
3. Sleep = Etizolam (0.5mg)

Two comments/warnings I would like to make for those new to benzo's..

1. Xanax - not really a daily/long-term solution for social anxiety due to its short half-life, tolerance develops, dependency and withdrawal risks.
2. Etizolam - if used daily for sleep, serious risk of Blepharospasms (eyelid spasms leading to droopy eyelids).

I have experienced both the above:

1. I now need repeated dosing of Xanax to get the same effects (I started on 0.5mg and now need 2mg, years on) and experience severe re-bound anxiety sometimes if I don't take it.
2. After using Etizolam nightly for 12 months, I have begun experiencing eyelid spasms that come and go, which is worrying.
 
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randomness said:
Ok here's my 2 cents worth on Pyrazolam and benzos, but first some background..

I suffer with chronic social anxiety and have taken Diazepam and Xanax on prescription (and my fair share of generic versions of these which can have variable effects), plus I use Etizolam regularly for sleep. So I know my benzo's and the dosage, the effects they have, both for anxiety relief and for sedation/sleep..

I obtained Pyrazolam (yellow pills scored from a well known RC vendor) as it looked like a cheaper and possibly good alternative to Xanax (my favourite benzo of choice for social anxiety and the most effective for me). I had high hopes for it, because of the longer half-life (9-11 hrs compared to Xanax < 6 hrs) and it's supposed to be less sedating than Xanax at higher doses..

Some have described Pyrazolam as "Xanax-lite". I would position it somewhere between Xanax and Diazepam in terms of effects, which are quite subtle and creep up on you. It does seem to have typical onset time if taken orally (40mins-1hr), despite claims of a fast onset.

It's quite weird actually how Pyrazolam works and difficult to put into words.. the only way I can describe it is like imagine a steep curve... at the bottom flat part (on 0.5mg) you have mild anxiety relief akin to 5-10mg diazepam (but without any sedation)... then suddenly, bam, if you up the dose of Pyrazolam (1.5mg-2mg) expecting more anxiety-relief, you're knocked out and sleeping.

So, for me, it is nowhere near as effective as Xanax for anxiety. Simply no comparison. If you're suffering bad social anxiety and expecting this to do for you what Xanax does, save your money and buy Xanax instead.

Yes, it has some type of benzo effect and you feel less anxiety (and sedated/sleep inclined at higher doses) but it's definitely not as precise and effective as Xanax is at targeting anxiety for me.. Xanax has a much faster onset too for me (especially if taken sublingually, i.e. dissolved under tongue)

Compared to Pyrazolam, Xanax not only removes anxiety totally for me but even makes me social. It doesn't sedate either at low to mid dosage (0.5mg-1mg), whereas Pyrazolam just takes the edge off anxiety, so I have to re-dose and end up crashing and sleeping on 1-1.5mg.

That said, experiences and effects tend to vary a lot with benzos. People use them for different reasons and have different tolerance levels of expectations in terms of the effects. I wouldn't dismiss Pyrazolam as benzo, but I also wouldn't say it's a great alternative to Xanax (or Diazepam for that matter) due to it being unlicensed, RC status and safety questions..

Here's how I use benzos:

1. Extreme Social Anxiety = Xanax (0.5 - 2mg)
2. Combat re-bound anxiety/withdrawals when not taking Xanax = Diazepam (5mg)
3. Sleep = Etizolam (0.5mg)

Two comments/warnings I would like to make for those new to benzo's..

1. Xanax - not really a daily/long-term solution for social anxiety due to its short half-life, tolerance develops, dependency and withdrawal risks.
2. Etizolam - if used daily for sleep, serious risk of Blepharospasms (eyelid spasms leading to droopy eyelids).

I have experienced both the above:

1. I now need repeated dosing of Xanax to get the same effects (I started on 0.5mg and now need 2mg, years on) and experience severe re-bound anxiety sometimes if I don't take it.
2. After using Etizolam nightly for 12 months, I have begun experiencing eyelid spasms that come and go, which is worrying.
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I am a big fan of Xanax , sever anxiety like yourself, 2mg is my sweet spot , iI have been taking 4mg Pyraz every morning as soon as I wake up for the last wee while, and my tolerance has risen but I am not going over 4 (learned to respect these drugs) , I think you maybe had a bad day , maybe worth another go especially if your a Xanax man, either that or it just does something different to you as we are all different,

As far as Etiz is concerned I got facial muscle spasms the SECOND TIME I used it, sketchy as fuck, that was on 5mg tho, people may see that as a high dose, I think 1mg Etiz mixed with 4mg Pyraz would make a nice Xanax Alternative :)

Edit: Just thought I'd mention Etiz makes me behave foolishly and brave at high doses, I think all the Etiz lovers are gna have horror story's in a couple of years, with that eye twitching shit , already read a couple.
 
HEyy all..my rhesus monkey just heard that his O'l uncle Bill the Rhesus monkey had sent off a package of 10 1mg Pyrazolam & 10 2mg diclazepam . Rhes is quite happy to hear that these benzo treats are on the way as they should serve to go well with the other batch of treats on the way..which is consisting of sum mephedrone and sum o-acetylpsilocin Alll of these substances will be completely new for monkey, he has not touched RC's since 0'10 when sum etizolam and aMT fell his way.

But Rhes is super pumped for this Pyrazolam he hopes for good things..with the same hoped for diclazapam ..rhes hasn't had much benzos as of late..as he has been staying relatively clean since rejoining the methadone program.
my monkey knows all the dangers associated with methadon+benzo cocktails and what can happen..and he assures me that the utmost care and vigilance.
 
Your pet monkey and your goldfish taking drugs talk doesn't happen on here mate , we know it's you lol :)
 
etizolam is so much better and you can get it in pharmaceutical form unlike pyrazolam which only has a mild anxiolytic effect. etizolam hits much harder and recreational wise has the nice muscle relaxation and sedation.
 
^^ exactly what i came here to ask. does pyraz have any of the muscle relaxation that say klonopin does for example. sounds like pyraz sucks for benzo tolerant peeps. except for certain cases i suppose.

i wonder now which is more muscle relaxing: diclazepam or etizolam

btw F the usa and their stupid wishy washy laws. making it hard for me :(
 
I've known benzo tolerant people who've had a great time on pyraz, it's all in the dosage; those standard 0.5 doses are miniscule, even for somebody without a tolerance. So just expect to need to buy larger amounts of tablets. I have a minor tolerance, and it takes me at least 3mgs to get positive effects from them.

Oh yeah SlumSurvivor, I missed your last pm 'cause my inbox was full; I have room in there now.
 
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^^ exactly what i came here to ask. does pyraz have any of the muscle relaxation that say klonopin does for example. sounds like pyraz sucks for benzo tolerant peeps. except for certain cases i suppose.

i wonder now which is more muscle relaxing: diclazepam or etizolam

btw F the usa and their stupid wishy washy laws. making it hard for me :(
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Not at all, just pure anti-anxiety no sedation of any kind, they're not that cheap because I need at least 4mg wich is 8 pellets
 
What are the therapeutical doses?
Does it have good anxiolytic properties? What's the half-life?
How fast is the onset?
What's the black out factor on this substance?
 
Haven't done em for months now. I believe the powder is available from a few UK and EU vendors, but these are only for "advanced customers" whatever the hell that means. I'm presuming its for big spenders only. I'll buy some when it becomes available to me; the purposely low doses being punted mean you need to do a lot of pills-it's not cost efficient. I'm not sure if there are "branded" pyraz or not, I've only had generics. In fact, my vendors entire range of benzos are generic. I've heard a lot of bad reviews on generic pills, but every one I've had has been excellent quality. They're also significantly cheaper than blistered pills. Btw is there any such thing as blistered pyraz, such as intas or etizest for example?

Right now, I've got 250 diclazepam on order, because I'm bored of etizolam. At the right I use them that's a 3 month supply. I really like the sound of these; they last a solid 12 hours, meaning I'd need to dose once, they're supposed to also be good sedatives with muscle-relaxation properties. They haven't had rave reviews, but I'm still optimistic.
 
It's weird the very first two I took gave me strong sedative effects, which I can't explain. But the next time I took it as a person with zero tolerance, it took me 3mg to get those classic pyrazolam effects; superb lack of anxiety with zero sedation. So, I love pyraz, but I need to use too damn many of them. I could try a new vendor I guess, but I trust mine to deliver quality gear.
 
I have to say if I only take 1 tab before work or something similiar, its working like charm. But today I took 2 0.5 Tabs and maaan dat sedation is heavy.
Its Strange cause I allready have a good amount of benzo tolerance.

And in addition to that I took 3 pyras at my last friday and it felt exact like the two I havev eating this morning.

Any one knows a different between the white and he yellow tabs ?
IMO the yellow tabs were way more effectiv as a good anxiolytic.

Sry for poor grammar ^^
 
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