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Purposely Going through precipitated withdrawal To stop Heroin addiction?

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ShaunB

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I know this seems crazy.. but I swear a couple times I accidently took sub too quick and went through horrible withdrawal. Where I wanted to die... So I found a way to get dope, and when I took dope it took the w/ds away. and I am pretty sure the next morning I woke up fine.. I can't remember though.

I have about 3 bags.. and I am just tired of doing this.. I just started a really good job.. and I dont have time to go to detox and start all over. Im not that addicted.. but addicted enough where i get semi withdrawal symptoms and feel like hell mentally.

Now I work at 9am.. and I used at 700pm because i just wasnt feeling great. I have a little piece of sub.. and I am wondering if I take it in the morning.. (Which i did this recently) It wasn't enough time and I went through a weak precipiated withdrawal. Not super bad, but I still became very panicky and used dope to stop it.

If I wake up, at 8am, do the sub.. start the pre w/d and wait till 830 and take the bags of dope I have, it should make me feel okay, not high , a little buzzed but thats it.

Since it pretty much puts you through an instant w/d.. would I wake up the next morning feeling bad withdrawals again? Also, I've never taken sub, pre w/d and taken heroin soon after. I am scared that if I take sub, and use heroin too soon, the sub will still be ripping heroin off subs and possibly screw up the heroin i shoot.

This is all very stressful.. and I've struggled really hard waiting 24 hours to use sub... If I don't decide to do it.. and do the bags tomorrow.. I will feel like shit by 5pm, and I pray to god I can make it until the morning to take my sub. Also, if by chance I decide to make it 24 hours and take the sub... I want to be done with drugs... How long and how much of sub can I take to eliminate heroin w/d? 4-6 days of taking half a sub? 1 sub? Any suggestions please. I know this is a lot of questions.. but I want the best answer.. I am done with this shit! I want my life back!
 
That won't work because once the sub wears off in a couple days after the PWDs(has long half life of 36+ hours) then you will be sick the reason you woke up fine is because the sub kicked in and you had buprenorphine flowing through you veins which is the opiate in Suboxone which made you get PWDS but after you get sick the from the bupe entering the body and kicking off most of the heroin from all your opiate receptors the bupe then kicks in and activates your opiate receptors again making you feel better. Buprenorphine just takes a long time to cross the blood brain barrier which is why it takes an hour or so to kick in fully when its taken under the tounge and even as much as 20 minutes for IV use which is unheard of in other opiates/opioids. You still feel like crap from the shock for hours or even days in some cases but usually the bupe starts to take effect after the initial most intense PWDs are over with about an hour to 2 hours.

To do what your thinking of you would have to be sedated then shot up with narcan then woken up later supposedly a new man free from withdrawals. This is known as Accelerated Detoxification but this can be a risky process because of the shock to the body its not for everyone.

How long would you have to take sub's for to escape opiate withdrawals??? Well technically the answer to your question is until you die. The reason being is because heroin withdrawal is opiate withdrawal and Suboxone is an opiate too meaning withdrawals from the two of them are similar, some would agrue which is the worst to withdrawal from out of the two but it all depends. Suboxone withdrawal lasts longer than heroin withdrawal but is usually not nearly as intense as heroin. The reason being is because Suboxone is a long lasting opiate which causes more drawn out symptoms and heroin is a strong very short acting drug which carries with it intense withdrawals. The thing with Suboxone is it is a lot easier to taper down to a low dose to detox off of rather than just cold turkeying and dropping off a high dose of heroin. Tapering heroin just isn't practical and you would need more will power than 90 percent of the world has in order to do so.

If you want to make it as painless as possible then start at say 2 mgs or 4 mgs whatever holds you over, then each day take a quarter mg (0.25mg) or even a half mg(0.5mg) off of each daily dose until your down to taking nothing you would be best doing it like this because the withdrawal at the end is nothing compared to heroin withdrawal because this way your doing it properly and tapering your use down slowly. I've done this many times in detox to come off heroin I would start at 8mg since I had a 8ball + habit of China white a day, then i would work my way down to 1mg over a week then down to 0.25mgs then jump off completely with little to no withdrawal symptoms. The hardest part is staying away from temptation and staying clean from heroin after detoxing. The mind only remembers the good parts of heroin and kind of forgets the bad you can start to glamorise it in a way but you need to try to pick up hobbies and make new relationships cutting off ones in active addiction.

Gooduck any more questions?
 
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