Pure molly caused violent/extreme body shaking. Possible seizure.

[YouShallNeverKnow]

Okay, so I took 1 molly to start off with and I eventually started to come down. As this was happening, I popped a second... Waited an hour and popped a third. About an hour or so after that I got the usual eye shakes and other related feelings from taking something so pure. Later in the night I started twitching a LOT then the twitches spread over my whole body. They were like severe bodily tremors, I noticed that I was getting extremely warm everywhere ( My face was especially red from my face shivering so out of control and I know shivering produces heat too) and eventually stopped sweating and the shaking got worse. I had to fall to the ground and pull my self up a wall, I was shaking so hard. No balance what so ever. after about two hours of shaking my friends made me extremely concerned and anxious because I took the coldest shower for like 20 minutes and I was still continuing to over heat. I checked the thermostat and it was 69 degrees in the house. It took me atleast 10 minutes to read the damn thing too. It was extremely difficult to concentrate as my eyes were shaking so violently ( I took rolls atleast twice a month for 3 years until 4 months ago when I stopped until this incident which occurred yesterday, and I've NEVER experienced such an intense feeling). After about an hour of being so confused and sore, I realized that this was causing me to tense up my whole body, so I then laid down and basically meditated relaxing my whole body and taking deep, deep breaths. It was extremely hard to do because I would tense up muscles without even realing it. I did this for about another two fucking hours until I just felt like I had really, really bad tremors and I was calming down then I started walking around and drank some water and chatted with my friends until the tremors slowed down considerably. My friend is 6'2 230lbs and a very large healthy guy in general. He experienced mild spasms when I was shaking so badly. I'm 5'5 and 128lbs female. Could I have been experiencing a seizure? What the fuck happened?

 

[epic11]

buy a god damn test kit!! www.dancesafe.org And you popped WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too much stuff. One dose (and maybe a smaller redose 45mins in) and thats it. Quit poppin! What you need to do now is really put in AT LEAST a 3 month wait. You fucked something up. Youll be fine though. TIME.

mdma dose 100-200mg. Never anymore besides the small redose. never go over 300mg in a night.

 

[flipper87]

i took a gram of MDMA before and hit the deck and took a full blown seizure. I went to the hospital and the doctor said i was fine even though it was an overdose. I completely passed out though I don't know how you were still conscious. Maybe you were just off your face ha

 

[Clocktower]

Three things:

1) You can't know your MDMA is pure unless you test it. Buy a test kit, maybe from eztest or dancesafe.

2) Assuming each of your doses was 100mg, you took 300mg, which is far too much, especially for a 128 lb woman.

3) You should never, ever try to take a second dose of MDMA after coming down from your first, much less a third. By that time, the serotonin in your brain has been exhausted.

Serotonin is the (main) chemical responsible for the positive effects of MDMA. MDMA basically works by telling your brain to release a whole mess of it all at once, making you feel high. By the time you come down, there isn't really any serotonin left, and taking more MDMA will only increase the negative side effects without extending your high- as you've so poignantly discovered.

In fact, you really shouldn't redose any later than one hour after your first dose, if at all.

EDIT: This page has some good info about what's going on.

 

[YouShallNeverKnow]

buy a god damn test kit!! www.dancesafe.org And you popped WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too much stuff. One dose (and maybe a smaller redose 45mins in) and thats it. Quit poppin! What you need to do now is really put in AT LEAST a 3 month wait. You fucked something up. Youll be fine though. TIME.

mdma dose 100-200mg. Never anymore besides the small redose. never go over 300mg in a night.

I used to pop like 6 a night. I really didn't take into account that I had lost my tolerance to it after so long, and I lost almost 20 lbs since the last time I took large amounts of MDMA. I don't need a test kit either. Haha. I'm the one who broke down the crystal and put it into the capsules. But I'm just curious if that has happened to anybody else before.

 

[YouShallNeverKnow]

Three things:

1) You can't know your MDMA is pure unless you test it. Buy a test kit, maybe from eztest or dancesafe.

2) Assuming each of your doses was 100mg, you took 300mg, which is far too much, especially for a 128 lb woman.

3) You should never, ever try to take a second dose of MDMA after coming down from your first, much less a third. By that time, the serotonin in your brain has been exhausted.

Serotonin is the (main) chemical responsible for the positive effects of MDMA. MDMA basically works by telling your brain to release a whole mess of it all at once, making you feel high. By the time you come down, there isn't really any serotonin left, and taking more MDMA will only increase the negative side effects without extending your high- as you've so poignantly discovered.

In fact, you really shouldn't redose any later than one hour after your first dose, if at all.

EDIT: This page has some good info about what's going on.

I'm really not concerned about the purity, so much as what the shaking was because I'm the one who broke up the crystal. It was my whole body shaking it wasn't even centralized or anything. I looked all over the internet and have not found one reported incidence of this happening. I've never had a seizure before and I'm not sure if that's what it was all.

 

[YouShallNeverKnow]

i took a gram of MDMA before and hit the deck and took a full blown seizure. I went to the hospital and the doctor said i was fine even though it was an overdose. I completely passed out though I don't know how you were still conscious. Maybe you were just off your face ha

I wasn't "off my face", just shaky and couldn't see. I used to trip pretty frequently back in the day and after I started tripping, higher doses of MDMA were easier and easier to take. I'm not sure if that makes sense? Haha. I mean everybody has a different, almost natural tolerance to MDMA and I've always taken larger doses than my friends and been way more stable than them.

 

[YouShallNeverKnow]

almost natural, small tolerance*

 

[Clocktower]

Just google "MDMA seizure." The first link is erowid, where they have links to a whole bunch of experience reports and paper abstracts about MDMA related seizures.

Or even click here and scroll down to "X. What are the dangerous side effects?" MDMA can cause seizures, and that is very possibly what happened in your case. There's some other good info there too.

For the record, "6 mollies a night" is highly abusive, and you need to do more research on the drug you're taking before you hurt yourself (any more). From what you've described, it sounds like you overdosed, overheated, then doused yourself in cold water and had a seizure.

You're lucky you came out of it feeling alright. If you keep taking MDMA irresponsibly this could happen again and you may not be so lucky the second time. A quick look around these forums is all it takes to find a few horror stories about brain damage and severe depression from MDMA abuse.

 

[YouShallNeverKnow]

I've never had a seizure before, and it just doesn't make sense. Yes, I fucked up but now I'm trying to learn from it. I've seen people go into a seizure before at the Night club I used to work. I saved a girls life while she was seizing from a bean cut with a synthetic heroin. Anyways, it's just wierd because I could get up. I didn't feel like I was actually rolling, just shaking for like 2 or 3 hours, with shake vision . I walked, well stumbled kind of, back and forth to the bathroom while shaking. I honestly don't plan on doing that again. It was supposed to be a shits and giggles type of night. I did test this molly before hand with the acidic colors test. I wan't to say it was a "marquis" test or something with a similar word where the colors turn to show you the various families. I've never taken anything without testing it first or having full trust of the person I was getting it from. However, I was in a bit of a lapse of time where I did abuse them severely until I finally dug myself out of the terrible hole I was in at the time. Raving nearly ruined my life. I just have never heard about that before. I've met people who have odd leg spasms or eye twitches whilst rolling but never anything like what I experienced. Sorry, if this sounds completely ridiculous. I just like to learn about different things that go on in my life.

\

 

[Renz Envy]

"Synthetic heroin...?"

I've experienced this before while mixing two drugs that can increase chances of seizures. I felt extremely cold and couldn't stop violently shaking for several hours.

I personally think it's an "aura" or an event that happens before a seizure and not the seizure itself.

 

[YouShallNeverKnow]

Nah. That was the girl I saved from a seizure. I'm not even sure if that was a seizure. It lasted hours and I was conscious. I only took MDMA

 

[Niggasbebuggin]

I'm sure this is said already, but how exactly do you know it is "pure" if you have not tested?
I doubt you would be able to tell it is pure if you had such adverse effects. And I don't know
For sure you know your "MDMA" is absolutely pure without a proper TC/regeant result.. Sorry to say.

 

[Diloadid]

I once accidentally ingested about 250+mg in an initial dose which lead to a strong come-up that lead into a psychotic euphoria where I literally could not contain myself. I started touching and kissing anything I could, and playing with myself at the same time. Eventually I vomitted, and the vomitting lasted about 10 minutes until I didn't feel nauseous lifting my head up. I did have some occasional body/eye tremors post-vomiting. But I kept my wits.

Funny thing is, I had a really long experience that night. About 6-7 hours total. And at the end I slept like a baby. But I did learn that night that MDMA should be more carefully dosed, and that was my fault.

 

[Dysphoric]

buy a god damn test kit!! www.dancesafe.org and you popped wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much stuff. One dose (and maybe a smaller redose 45mins in) and thats it. Quit poppin! What you need to do now is really put in at least a 3 month wait. You fucked something up. Youll be fine though. Time.

Mdma dose 100-200mg. Never anymore besides the small redose. Never go over 300mg in a night.

qft!

 

[YouShallNeverKnow]

Tested it. I've been dealing with MDMA and it's different mixed forms for the last 6 years almost. I'm quite aware of it's toxicity in large amounts. What I failed to mention is that I have asshole friends and they gave me the last two in my drinks, so I can only assume the time periods. I've got a question for you guys. Have you ever licked a crystal of MDMA before? Haha. I actually ran into somebody who had a very similar experience. Took a while to track him down. It definitely wasn't a seizure.

 

[YouShallNeverKnow]

"Synthetic heroin...?"

I've experienced this before while mixing two drugs that can increase chances of seizures. I felt extremely cold and couldn't stop violently shaking for several hours.

I personally think it's an "aura" or an event that happens before a seizure and not the seizure itself.

I finally tracked down somebody who had a very similar experience. He said almost the same thing. Thanks.

 

[Renz Envy]

I finally tracked down somebody who had a very similar experience. He said almost the same thing. Thanks.

I actually did have a seizure. I couldn't breath right. Talking was weird, because my voice was shaking so hard it sounded like I was crying or scared out of my mind (Though I wasn't).

I sat down on the bed next to my girlfriend and she kept asking me, "Are you alright?" and I responded, "I don't k-N-now, I feel fine." Finally I ended up losing memory and woke up next to her. I asked her if I had been convulsing and she said, "A little twitching." (Normal when you lose consciousness on a certain depressant)

If I died it would have been my fault, not hers. So call 9-11 if you start experiencing those symptoms.

 

[augustaB]

At a guess, you overheated. Shaking or violent shivering is symptomatic of heat stroke. It was a very good thing you took a very cold shower, although a cold bath might have been more effective.
Your dose was very high. Nuff said

 

[futura2012]

1) You can't know your MDMA is pure unless you test it. Buy a test kit, maybe from eztest or dancesafe.

I'm sure this is said already, but how exactly do you know it is "pure" if you have not tested?
I doubt you would be able to tell it is pure if you had such adverse effects. And I don't know
For sure you know your "MDMA" is absolutely pure without a proper TC/regeant result.. Sorry to say.

Just to clarify a reagent test is not 100% accurate for purity. MDMA for example can have hydrated crystals (watered down) and the the reagent test wont see this. Also small doses of adulterants are sometimes hard to spot.

GC/MS or other more scientific tests are the only source for true purity information.

Could I have been experiencing a seizure? What the fuck happened?

Re seizures / shaking from MDMA abuse as I understand it is the depleted dopamine levels that are responsible for this.

Although the dopamine release from MDMA is not so significant at low dose at higher dose it is more significant and this can lead to depleted dopamine levels and thus seizures and tremours.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/471381-dopamine-for-seizures/