PsyTrance Discussion and Stuff ver. III

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Dalfir said:
SA night time stuff is like the melodeath to Eastern Europe's brutal death metal. :P
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SA is Fintroll while fullon darkpsy is Behemoth.

Psychosynthesis, nah I didn't royal it, I think I messaged you....? Ahh, I been busy moving so I don't know whats been happening.... Haven't been out to listen to psy for a while to be honest..
 
Keep your eyes peeled for ON. Doing their first European tour soon. They have a track off the Afrogalactic V/A Radioactive Rubber Pants. Incredible act.
 
Went to one of the best outdoors there's been for a few years last weekend. Glorious and sunny too. Anyway, the best thing about it was a Free Radical Records stage - been to a couple of their parties now and they have to be one of the best new labels around. Check them out!

Anyone got big plans for the solstice?
 
swilow said:
I know I generally bag out Israeli trance, but he is one artist I really like
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Astrix is awesome. Not quite as "psychedelic" as some other psytrance, but really great for getting your body to move. I also like the real "polished" sound on his tracks. They seem to just have a really perfect flow.
 
Anyone know of any good albums on the horizon?

I managed to get in contact with Colin Bennun from OOOD and he told me that their 4th album is 2/3 done. This was about 8 months ago, so they should have something soon.
 
Free Radicals were here in the beginning of the year. Coming back again for another crazy party.
 
Quageschi said:
Anyone know of any good albums on the horizon?

I managed to get in contact with Colin Bennun from OOOD and he told me that their 4th album is 2/3 done. This was about 8 months ago, so they should have something soon.
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I think it's pretty much finished now and should be along soon. It's called "Fourthought" and will be released on Phar Psyde.

In the meantime, you can hear a live set from Switzerland here: http://mastering.psytunes.info/OOOD/OOOD_Live_@_V-SO,_Martigny,_CH_-_22-02-08.mp3
 
Does anyone have a link to any uploaded Entheogenic? It would be much appreciated if you did as I can only find one song and it isn't the easiest thing to find in the shops around here. Don't know if you'd count it as psytrance but I thought here would be a good place to try.

EDIT: A little more detail in google and I found what I was looking for :D
 
is it just me or is dark psytrance extremely repetitive and boring? I was listening to Goa Gil - Worldbridger and I did not like it at all. All the tracks sounded the same to me, except with slight changes.
 
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Yeeee gads. Cannot believe I have completely missed this thread for so long (years in fact). I live in SE Asia, so the psy scene is not exactly huge, genuine CDs are non-available, and majority of what gets played is boring, run of the mill, full-on psy.

StarOceanHouse: Not just you. I've tried and tried to appreciate it - but i gets boooring quickly. Quite possibly there is good, interesting, mind-engaging stuff out there, but with the DJs i know who play really dark psy - one hour and i'm bored out of my skull. However, I have 1 friend who plays what I guess is dark psy but is also very psychedelic, twisted and interesting: her average set list includes: Pan Psychic, Dark Elf, Septagram, Ahn'Quyin, Phobium, Soundless, Hyper Frequencies, Electrypnose, Mindsphere, Artsense

Reviews online: are there ANY sites online with decent reviews these days? Feeling rather lost after the demise of Damion's site - didn't always agree with him, but the reviews were entertaining as hell. So any and all recommendations are HUGELY welcome

And what the hell has happened to Protoculture?? Will he ever return?
 
^Howdy! Yar, I haven't heard much from protoculture for a while- maybe dalfir will know.

StarOceanHouse said:
is it just me or is dark psytrance extremely repetitive and boring? I was listening to Goa Gil - Worldbridger and I did not like it at all. All the tracks sounded the same to me, except with slight changes.
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I quite liked this particualr album, but I dp agree. Darkpsy, besides of the ultra-tecnical type such as Kindzadza, Electrypnose or the nice industrilish Baphomet Engine, is pretty bland. I usually find after about twenty minutes I'm done....the problem is that every artist either uses filtered noise to create their sounds or massively detuned and distorted saw waves. Off all the psy 'genres', it is the easiest to create, as the production isn't brilliant, there is no reall musicality to it, fills/breaks/glitch is easy as fuck to create, just painstaking, the key changes are just pathetic and the ethos behind the songs- darkpsy- just wrong IMO. Dark psychedelic music I would consider to be dark/black ambient music such as Xasthur or Lustmord.....I prefer funkier/more dancy psy, mainly suomi at the moment....

Dalfir, your tunes are sounding really good mate! :)
 
names of sounds

right, i know somewhere on the net there HAS to be a database of standard sounds used in psytrance but i just can't find the damn thing.

I'm not a DJ so clueless on the techie side, but friends are always asking me to critique their stuff. Its really hard (and embarassing) when i'm writing responses like - at the 2.11min mark the tinky-tink is too tinky. It would be nice to give the "tinky-tink" its correct name. Any suggestions?
 
StarOceanHouse said:
is it just me or is dark psytrance extremely repetitive and boring? I was listening to Goa Gil - Worldbridger and I did not like it at all. All the tracks sounded the same to me, except with slight changes.
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i'd say a large amount of the dark psy out there sounds the same and kinda sucks.

But Goa Gil - Worldbridger? thats like.....one of the better examples of good dark psy/dark goa around..

Especially good are The Nommos.
 
Protoculture is doing some shizz with Atomic Pulse (Atomic Culture). Haven't seen him at a party here since around Feburary. Not impressed with what he was playing then at all.
 
schmangle said:
right, i know somewhere on the net there HAS to be a database of standard sounds used in psytrance but i just can't find the damn thing.

I'm not a DJ so clueless on the techie side, but friends are always asking me to critique their stuff. Its really hard (and embarassing) when i'm writing responses like - at the 2.11min mark the tinky-tink is too tinky. It would be nice to give the "tinky-tink" its correct name. Any suggestions?
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Not really, there are 'standard' sounds as you say, but there is no database listing them. I synthesise all my own sounds anyhow....if your not a producer, your firends probably want the non-producers ears anyway, as opposed to the psy-lord ears...;)
 
I've noticed A LOT of MMD sounds coming out of the Vengeance sample packs. Headroom (Nano Rec) used the same 2 samples from a Vengeance pack in the exact same way I did on one of my tracks. :/
 
swilow said:
I quite liked this particualr album, but I dp agree. Darkpsy, besides of the ultra-tecnical type such as Kindzadza, Electrypnose or the nice industrilish Baphomet Engine, is pretty bland. I usually find after about twenty minutes I'm done....the problem is that every artist either uses filtered noise to create their sounds or massively detuned and distorted saw waves. Off all the psy 'genres', it is the easiest to create, as the production isn't brilliant, there is no reall musicality to it, fills/breaks/glitch is easy as fuck to create, just painstaking, the key changes are just pathetic and the ethos behind the songs- darkpsy- just wrong IMO. Dark psychedelic music I would consider to be dark/black ambient music such as Xasthur or Lustmord.....I prefer funkier/more dancy psy, mainly suomi at the moment....
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Try listening to worldbridger on mushrooms! in particular the track by Orestis. It is really hard to notice the musicality in it unless tripping whilst listening closely (not dancing), but all of the sounds are tuned and harmonically interact with each other so that the whole track is the music together rather than having individual blatantly harmonic leads. I see it in the same way that classical music works, all of the sounds interact with each other and are crucial to each other for the track to work.

Agreed though, a lot of dark isn't music. But I generally find that the more popular stuff is the musically intricate stuff even if its not obvious that it is intricate. I guess people subconsciously react to it even if they arent analysing it much, they just feel it.

seriously, if you think dark isnt music listen to worldbridger whilst tripping at home, preferably mushrooms! and its definitely not possible to say that dark or full-on is easier to create, it is totally dependent on the artists your talking about and a load of other variables such as skill level of person trying to recreate dark or full-on and the originality of their music or whether its just copied. I'd say mostly theyre as difficult as each other, shit full-on is easy, shit dark is easy, technical full-on hard, technical dark hard etc.

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