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Psytrance clubs....what's that all about then?

I can safely say that the only time I've even heard of psy-trance other than on here was from some goon I used to work with. It was shite when he played it to me & it's shite now. I doubt that most of my mates will ever have heard of psy-trance, they'll just have known it as even shiter trance than normal trance.
 
Good psy-trance is more techno than "trance", IMO anyway, even psy-trance has fractured, there's the more Goa-ey stuff and the more jagged techno-ey industrial clatter, which I prefer.
 
Hi people,

I am personally really into psytrance. Well psytrance encompasses a lot of sub-genres that are all so different. Saying you don't like psytrance is being a bit hasty.
The main differences are:
_goa
_full on
_psychedelic
_dark
_progressive
_psy breaks
_minimal psy

the list goes on and trance is a very open genres which gets influenced by the best of every scene. In that perspective, the best "tech" which was "progressive psy techno" I ever heard was at a psytrance rave.

The problem is that there are a lot of parties where they play boring commercial trance, go to a good party and you will get 8 different styles banging all night and day finishing off with the finest techno in the afternoon.

I must also say that the trance scene in the UK is not very develloped compared to countries like germany, france, switzerland, spain, eastern europe... where outdoor raves are legal.

Psytrance by definition is not club music, it's best outdoors in nature. And legal outdoor raves are not that common in the UK, there are some but quite commercial and expensive.

I live in France and quickly turned away from the free party scene. Violent music, junkies, sausage fests, no decoration... bleak shit. Good psy events are well organised with top notch sound systems, security, no police (legal), progressive music, lots of girls, amazing decoration and lighting, the best drugs on the market, HAPPY PEOPLE!!!!!

I personally rather pay and have an amazing and safe night in the woods or on top of a mountain, than headbanging to speedcore with junkies or being crammed with drunk teenagers in a filthy club.

Psytrance is the one scene that still has values and a unique spirit. Just come to the Boom festival, VuuV, Ozora...

PEACE =D
 
i oppose the view that psybreaks is a subgenre of psytrance! it may be infleunced by psytrance but its a subgenre of breaks, nothing "trancey" about it.

/genre nazi :)
 
demon cleaner said:
I am personally really into psytrance. Well psytrance encompasses a lot of sub-genres that are all so different. Saying you don't like psytrance is being a bit hasty.
The main differences are:
_goa
_full on
_psychedelic
_dark
_progressive
_psy breaks
_minimal psy

the list goes on and trance is a very open genres which gets influenced by the best of every scene. In that perspective, the best "tech" which was "progressive psy techno" I ever heard was at a psytrance rave.

The problem is that there are a lot of parties where they play boring commercial trance, go to a good party and you will get 8 different styles banging all night and day finishing off with the finest techno in the afternoon.

I must also say that the trance scene in the UK is not very develloped compared to countries like germany, france, switzerland, spain, eastern europe... where outdoor raves are legal.

Psytrance by definition is not club music, it's best outdoors in nature. And legal outdoor raves are not that common in the UK, there are some but quite commercial and expensive.

I live in France and quickly turned away from the free party scene. Violent music, junkies, sausage fests, no decoration... bleak shit. Good psy events are well organised with top notch sound systems, security, no police (legal), progressive music, lots of girls, amazing decoration and lighting, the best drugs on the market, HAPPY PEOPLE!!!!!

I personally rather pay and have an amazing and safe night in the woods or on top of a mountain, than headbanging to speedcore with junkies or being crammed with drunk teenagers in a filthy club.

Psytrance is the one scene that still has values and a unique spirit....

PEACE =D
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Nicely put mate.

All I know is that I went to my first psytrance night last Friday, and the people were some of the nicest I have ever met at any club. Ever. The atmosphere was great and it was a hedonistic lovers paradise. The people and atmosphere was like an indoor Glastonbury from the early 80's, but with better music. Top stuff.

I'm the geriatric round here, and I'm perfectly ok with that, because it does have it's benefits believe it or not :) But I can look back over various music scenes I've been involved in and the crowds they attract. I've been through the back end of psychedelic movement. I grew up with it all around me as a child. Sure, some of the ideals were naive in hindsight, but the people and the scene was magical. Then I found Prog Rock, with Floyd, Yes, Led Zep etc. I then got caught up in the destruction of Prog with the birth of Punk. I was right there at the start to see the Pistols in '76, and The Clash at the Lyceum in 78. Madness. Oh, it was fun at the time with the adrenaline of youth, but magical, it was not. I even had a brief amphetamine fueled time with the northern soul movement at the Wigan Casino. Then came the eighties shite until the dance movement took off. That was really when the magic of psychedelia returned for a while until the inevitable commercialism broke it's heart. And that's where I gave up on clubs and just had my parties at home.

Until now.

I guess it comes down to what's important to you when you go out. For me, it's the atmosphere and the people I meet there first and foremost, with music a very close second. In the right headspace, last Friday was a perfect combination. And this was at a very small venue. I can't wait till I get to the Bristol scene and Illuminaughty!

None of my love for last Friday was influenced by the fact that I was asked to dance by a girl 25 years younger than me at all by the way. That was just me being reluctantly polite of course. But it says a lot about the attitude of people there.
 
^ "Come on, dance with me, move your body along with me"

to quote the record which first made me aware that there was a genre called 'trance' many years ago.

Dear SHM, are you seriously saying you were the first person on here to like psy trance? It's just that I was buying psytrance in 1995 at the latest, BL started in 1997ish and you joined in 2001 and I find it hard to believe that in 4 years nobody had mentioned what was already a fairly well established genre which is pretty much all about drurgs. I'm just asking though, please don't be mean.
 
sounds identical to every other psytrance song imo, the drum samples (especially that horrible anaemic kick drum sample every song uses), bassline, atmospherics etc are more limited in psy than any other genre i can think of. drippy water type noises and trippy vocal samples optional (but always used).
 
Well I lasted six minutes and it was basically a four bar loop with a BBC Sound Effects record playing over the top. And a Fisher Price electronic space shuttle, and a camera flash capacitor charging, while someone has a serious diarrhoea attack in the next room.

That little 'curiouser and curiouser' sample is well overused and reminds me of this frigging annoying gif from the other thread:
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I know it's wrong to punch little girls but the one in that gif isn't doing herself any favours.
 
haha i skipped through and didn't even realise it was a mix rather than a single track
 
Evad said:
...especially that horrible anaemic kick drum sample every song uses...
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And the obligatory side chain compression used on it. Drives me mad, but only coz I can't master it :)

Jeez, so much to investigate. I mean here is the wicki page on trance genres: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trance_genres There's more variations than ingredients in a pot noodle. All be it Trance genres.

I actually haven't sussed out what category I like yet. Although I do know I like Aphex Twin, Shpongle and Infected Mushroom....
 
jancrow said:
Dear SHM, are you seriously saying you were the first person on here to like psy trance? It's just that I was buying psytrance in 1995 at the latest, BL started in 1997ish and you joined in 2001 and I find it hard to believe that in 4 years nobody had mentioned what was already a fairly well established genre which is pretty much all about drurgs. I'm just asking though, please don't be mean.
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Jeez do I scare you that much?

Ok, in order....

...I said I was the first person to mention it, and I certainly only mean in EADD.

The psytrance you were buying in 1995 was the goan wank I referred to in a later post, not full-on psytrance - which began to be heard in the UK around 2001(ish)

Has BL really been going since 1997? I never knew that.

I joined on May 10th 2001 so happy tenth BL birthday today for SHM.

BL was a lot more luvvy and fluffy in 2001. That EADD crowd wanted nothing to do with full-on banging beats.

yours non-meanly

Birthday boy.
<3
 
Evad said:
sounds identical to every other psytrance song imo, the drum samples (especially that horrible anaemic kick drum sample every song uses), bassline, atmospherics etc are more limited in psy than any other genre i can think of. drippy water type noises and trippy vocal samples optional (but always used).
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Evad knows.

The cunts can only afford one sample kit for Reason because they've spent all their dough on enough acid to make the music bearable.
 
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