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Greenlighter
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First of all if either of my friends stumbles across this please dont be offended im concered about both of you. Hello bluelighters i apologize in advance if this is the wrong forum but it seemed appropriate to me also this is pretty long but i think interesting and i would appreciate feed back. Essentially i have a friend for the storys sake we will call my friend jone. Regardless my friend Jone has often struck people as odd hes quite a nice guy but im done using any form of intoxicating substance with him other than booze and chronic. My reasons for this are that litterally every time i have taken a psy with him he will either phase out into another reality on a very low dose (definately not worthy of a breakthrough IMO) or go on these extremely long dillusional rants which ill end up reasoning with him until hes making absolutely no sense whatsoever in an effort to deny hes wrong. My other friend im with in this story isnt very dillusional normally however when on psys or empathogens he gets into mindfucks VERY EASILY like the ones where he constantly over analyses shit and thinks he realising deep universal truths or truths about himself.
Essentially the first time I started noticing these weird thought patterns was when me, him, and one other friend all dropped together. After we dropped we went for a walk through the park half way through the walk he started talking about how I know a lot more then people give me credit for and for the next hour to two hours they talked about how much I knew and how i just had this state of knowing, essentially told me i was the next jesus, and how my name was actually a state of being which meant a honest, awesome, caring, intelligent great person/friend all very flattering i know. After all this flattery Jone started going on these very long megalomaniacal rants, Jone was talking about how the three of us were very influential people who were going to have a very large impact on the world, I jokingly metioned the triforce from zelda as a reference to the three of us to which both my friends were like OMG I ALWAYS KNEW ZELDA WAS SIGNIFIGANT OMGMGMGMG and took my joke ENTIRELY litterally. After this they figured i was wisdom, Jone was power, and my other friend was courage they somehow connected the triforce into what they deemed "the machine" which was the three of us they figured that Jone was harvesting energy from the universe, this energy was channled through courage or some stuff and then since i was wisdom i was translating the universal code and speaking it, which they deemed as me reading their minds. Before i go on im very open to spiritual beliefs so long as being wrong is still considered which they werent but i digress, after all these interesting things happened we went back to my friends house on the way back apparently they claim they discovered that they apparently had picked up my thought process permanently and became one with nature and converted to paganism, stuff like that. Once we were inside Jone claimed he discovered something dark about himself (in others words a repressed memory) to which he acted all zoned out and weird about for an hour or so until rather than deal with it he re-repressed it by what he rationalized as making a deal with gods and goddesses. I didnt really mention any of this to anyone for a very long time seeing as i thought i just got a first hand view on how powerful psys can be on peoples minds so i didnt really bring it up.
3 weeks to a month later we went camping with eachother where we all took one tab essentially this is where i found out exactly what they considered "the machine" to be as i had no previous knowledge they had divised this we ventured into the woods where we smoked a bowl after the bowl Jone phased out for probably like 40 min. during this I finally had a chance to talk to my other friend and reason him to seeing how dillusional they were acting and pointing out how Jone wasnt really meditating but was completely zoned out and unresponsive. Here is where i was able to break the mindfuck my friend was in, as i couldnt say i didnt feel my conciousness melding with theirs before because anytime i did and they were together they got all OH BAD VIBES MAN BAD VIBES! and i didnt want to be a buzzkill up till now but i was pretty much right pissed off about not being able to have regular fun trippy adventures anymore where my friends werent being egotistical and acting like they were the messiahs. So my friend rationalized him zoning out as him being in a different "universal plain of conciousness" to which i asked him "Right there thats what i mean please explain to me what a universal plain of conciousness is," to which he realized he had absolutely no clue and was tripping balls. So other friend is coming back to reality now and Jone snaps out of it in about 20 min so we just chill about, basically it turned out that Jone had known about my friend falling into mindfucks easily before me and was pretty much turning him into a cult follower to which my friend was pretty agitated about for quite some time.
Its been about 7 months since this incident my other friend still falls into mindfucks easily but is aware of it and it getting better at rationalizing when they're happening, however Jone who is pagan so im not sure if this is spirituality or being dillusional essentially has picked up the tail of king arthur as a religion and believes in this stuff like the eternal library which he told me was in my head, and thinks he can talk to the wizard merlin who lives in a tree and reads a book called wizardology almost like a bible from what i can tell (I read wizardology in grade 5 :/) and thinks he can talk to lady of the lake and stuff. More recently when jone wasnt even on anything mentions to me "Hearing conciousness is annoying," so i asked him what he meant to which he explained when he meditated before bed he would start hearing voices that would stop him from falling asleep. I was considering telling him he should see a doctor but didnt want to offend him (and seeing as non-insane christians think they can talk to god) so i asked what kind of things the voices said to him his answer was that he signed a pact with the gods an goddesses that he couldnt tell anyone except his friend who will call James who also experiences similiar voices sensations when he meditates and talks about being in dream world. I recognized this as him possibly finding some one who was dillusional as well and he wouldnt fear judgement from so he feels comfortable talking to him about this and the gods and godesses are actually his ego trying to stop him from being hurt (also connects to megalomania), there are a few more experiences i could mention but i feel as this is enough nor do i want a story on a forum. ( Hes also is not in contact with his father at all so there is no way of checking his familys mental health record, however his mom can be quite dillusional on substances and claims shes against lucy because she had one very bad experience with it when she was younger)
Essentially the first time I started noticing these weird thought patterns was when me, him, and one other friend all dropped together. After we dropped we went for a walk through the park half way through the walk he started talking about how I know a lot more then people give me credit for and for the next hour to two hours they talked about how much I knew and how i just had this state of knowing, essentially told me i was the next jesus, and how my name was actually a state of being which meant a honest, awesome, caring, intelligent great person/friend all very flattering i know. After all this flattery Jone started going on these very long megalomaniacal rants, Jone was talking about how the three of us were very influential people who were going to have a very large impact on the world, I jokingly metioned the triforce from zelda as a reference to the three of us to which both my friends were like OMG I ALWAYS KNEW ZELDA WAS SIGNIFIGANT OMGMGMGMG and took my joke ENTIRELY litterally. After this they figured i was wisdom, Jone was power, and my other friend was courage they somehow connected the triforce into what they deemed "the machine" which was the three of us they figured that Jone was harvesting energy from the universe, this energy was channled through courage or some stuff and then since i was wisdom i was translating the universal code and speaking it, which they deemed as me reading their minds. Before i go on im very open to spiritual beliefs so long as being wrong is still considered which they werent but i digress, after all these interesting things happened we went back to my friends house on the way back apparently they claim they discovered that they apparently had picked up my thought process permanently and became one with nature and converted to paganism, stuff like that. Once we were inside Jone claimed he discovered something dark about himself (in others words a repressed memory) to which he acted all zoned out and weird about for an hour or so until rather than deal with it he re-repressed it by what he rationalized as making a deal with gods and goddesses. I didnt really mention any of this to anyone for a very long time seeing as i thought i just got a first hand view on how powerful psys can be on peoples minds so i didnt really bring it up.
3 weeks to a month later we went camping with eachother where we all took one tab essentially this is where i found out exactly what they considered "the machine" to be as i had no previous knowledge they had divised this we ventured into the woods where we smoked a bowl after the bowl Jone phased out for probably like 40 min. during this I finally had a chance to talk to my other friend and reason him to seeing how dillusional they were acting and pointing out how Jone wasnt really meditating but was completely zoned out and unresponsive. Here is where i was able to break the mindfuck my friend was in, as i couldnt say i didnt feel my conciousness melding with theirs before because anytime i did and they were together they got all OH BAD VIBES MAN BAD VIBES! and i didnt want to be a buzzkill up till now but i was pretty much right pissed off about not being able to have regular fun trippy adventures anymore where my friends werent being egotistical and acting like they were the messiahs. So my friend rationalized him zoning out as him being in a different "universal plain of conciousness" to which i asked him "Right there thats what i mean please explain to me what a universal plain of conciousness is," to which he realized he had absolutely no clue and was tripping balls. So other friend is coming back to reality now and Jone snaps out of it in about 20 min so we just chill about, basically it turned out that Jone had known about my friend falling into mindfucks easily before me and was pretty much turning him into a cult follower to which my friend was pretty agitated about for quite some time.
Its been about 7 months since this incident my other friend still falls into mindfucks easily but is aware of it and it getting better at rationalizing when they're happening, however Jone who is pagan so im not sure if this is spirituality or being dillusional essentially has picked up the tail of king arthur as a religion and believes in this stuff like the eternal library which he told me was in my head, and thinks he can talk to the wizard merlin who lives in a tree and reads a book called wizardology almost like a bible from what i can tell (I read wizardology in grade 5 :/) and thinks he can talk to lady of the lake and stuff. More recently when jone wasnt even on anything mentions to me "Hearing conciousness is annoying," so i asked him what he meant to which he explained when he meditated before bed he would start hearing voices that would stop him from falling asleep. I was considering telling him he should see a doctor but didnt want to offend him (and seeing as non-insane christians think they can talk to god) so i asked what kind of things the voices said to him his answer was that he signed a pact with the gods an goddesses that he couldnt tell anyone except his friend who will call James who also experiences similiar voices sensations when he meditates and talks about being in dream world. I recognized this as him possibly finding some one who was dillusional as well and he wouldnt fear judgement from so he feels comfortable talking to him about this and the gods and godesses are actually his ego trying to stop him from being hurt (also connects to megalomania), there are a few more experiences i could mention but i feel as this is enough nor do i want a story on a forum. ( Hes also is not in contact with his father at all so there is no way of checking his familys mental health record, however his mom can be quite dillusional on substances and claims shes against lucy because she had one very bad experience with it when she was younger)
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