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arthunter888

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I have waisted many shroom trips sitting on my couch in the fetal position stuck in the anxiety loop. This could be partly because I always stay in the 1-2.5g range for a trip. Next time I am going to do a solid 3.5g. However, I'm wondering if I can ensure a pleasurable trip by adding a benzo like Ativan or Klonapin. I have had pleasant trips, but over half of them are spent sitting, and distracted.

I would like to have a full-blown trip with minimal anxiety, but I'm afraid that adding a benzo will also minimize the psychedelic effects, almost like an antipsychotic.

Does anyone have experience supplementing a trip with benzos? Which one, and what dosage (no tolerance) would you recommend?
 
If I were you, I would work out whatever it is about myself that is causing the anxiety, then trip, life will be so much better if you do this.

I used to trip a lot, then I got to a point where I would have terrible amounts of anxiety that sort of forced me to stop taking psyches, then I got a psycologist, and a therapist, and started dabbling with DMT, now my life is WAY better than it ever was , and I can eat quarter bags of mushrooms with zero worry! Hell, I have even been able to smoke DMT durring a 7gram mushroom trip and enjoy the shit out of it. No worries.
 
The Hebrew Hammer said:
If I were you, I would work out whatever it is about myself that is causing the anxiety, then trip, life will be so much better if you do this.

I used to trip a lot, then I got to a point where I would have terrible amounts of anxiety that sort of forced me to stop taking psyches, then I got a psycologist, and a therapist, and started dabbling with DMT, now my life is WAY better than it ever was , and I can eat quarter bags of mushrooms with zero worry! Hell, I have even been able to smoke DMT durring a 7gram mushroom trip and enjoy the shit out of it. No worries.
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QFT.

Sure, you could take a benzo and have a positive trip. But is that really what you're looking for? "Better living through chemistry"? You'll be MUCH happier if you eliminate the sources of anxiety in your life.
 
There will always be sources for anxiety. Nobody is perfect, and sometimes its unavoidable during a trip. It tends to come in little waves, just like the good effects. Besides, others have confirmed that the come-up anxiety from shrooms doesn't fade if the dose is too low.

I was thinking a benzo might keep the anxiety at bay, but if I take a low dose ativan (the clearest benzo) will it still mute the visuals?
 
Every person's brain chemistry is unique. A benzo will reduce the effects of shrooms to some degree. I doubt that anyone can give you a definitive answer on how much it will reduce the effects for you.
 
I have found that Lorazepam can help calm anxiety while on a trip. While other benzos seem to really dull or straight up kill the trip. Possibly taking .5-1mg a half hour to hour after consuming has helped me out when dealing with some personal issues that have caused anxiety during trips.

As said, everyone's brain chemistry is different and the best way to overcome anxiety is finding the root problem. Possibly find a better setting and keep the environment friendly could help as well.

Good luck bro
 
Make sure you are in the right state of mind, a good setting (being in nature with trusted friends is my favorite setting for shroomin') I also like to take the dried material in ~.5g increments every 20-30 minutes on a relatively empty stomach until i'm where I want to be. Maybe have a few beers throughout the trip will take the edge off.

If you find yourself in a mind-loop, some soothing music and a hit or two of nitrous can work wonders. And in my younger years cannabis eliminated anxiety tripping or not, now that's not quite the case for me anymore, but perhaps it will help you.

When I have combined benzos with fungi in the past, I found myself in an opiate-like nod without the euphoria and it wasn't really pleasant, similar to dissociated delirium. I also noticed with that combo, there was no pleasant afterglow and no sense of accomplishment or growth when the trip was over.

I personally would leave benzos as a last resort if nothing else i've mentioned worked and you're having a mental breakdown.

Peace
 
wanna hear something funny.
and i mean ha ha ha larryious.

the worst shroom trip i ever had happened from a mere 2 g's.

the best shroom trips i've ever had consisted of quarters to half ounces.

i've found, even with 4-aco-dmt. the lower doses are incredibly uncomfortable for whatever reason, but the higher ones were much much smoother.

Im not saying eat an assload of mushrooms for safetys sake.
if you have like some kind of panic disorder its best to test the waters the way you have been doing.
 
Benzos are better for when you feel like you need to go to sleep. The best one for sleep, IMO, is temazepam.

I would suggest taking lower doses of mushrooms, some people don't enjoy overdoing it like I do. The delirium like state you likely experienced isn't enjoyable to many people, but I have always enjoyed high dose mushroom trips.
 
Psychonautical said:
wanna hear something funny.
and i mean ha ha ha larryious.

the worst shroom trip i ever had happened from a mere 2 g's.

the best shroom trips i've ever had consisted of quarters to half ounces.

i've found, even with 4-aco-dmt. the lower doses are incredibly uncomfortable for whatever reason, but the higher ones were much much smoother.

Im not saying eat an assload of mushrooms for safetys sake.
if you have like some kind of panic disorder its best to test the waters the way you have been doing.
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I'm glad other people have noticed this. It seems an eighth trip is more manageable than a half-eighth. I think the strong visuals from higher doses can be pleasant distractions. With a low dose, not much visually, so you focus more on the mind-fuck that's still there.
 
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