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Psychotridine

yer right, my apologies. For some reason I was thinking about psychotria(DMT) this is clearly not an alkoloid that is in anyway(other than the indol)similar to tryptamine. And there's no info on it's effect on serotonin so yeah, 4get I said that, a CYPI might boost it though, who knows. Like I said, smoke it.
 
does anyone know whether the psychotridine alkaloid available is a base or a salt, I tried asking but they wont respond to me emails regarding any question
 
Hodgkinsine may turn out to be the truly interesting compound from Psychotria colorata. It apparently has documented analgesic effects so I'm pretty damn sure there's something there.

It is possible that psychotridine/hodgkinsine is/are orally inactive, so I'd suggest smoking. It may also prove more fruitful to purchase P colorata because the people who claim to be selling 'psychotrine' could just be selling 'dxm'. If you can smoke the leaves of P colorata dried, that would also be quite interesting.
 
Unfortunately AFAIK there is no source for P.Colorata. I dont think they'd sell dyed dxm as psychotridine, atleast I really hope not as it is toxic to smoke. I dont think it is anyway cuz dxm has a longer 1/2life and nobody has gotten any real experiences from this. I'd like to try and inject it but I'm not sure of how pure it is and what the impurities might do to me if injected, smoking does seem like the way to go. As far as hodgkinsine, I'm one of the slight few around here who hates opiates, not necessarily for moral reasons but because everytime i've ever tried them I felt like I was poisoned and when I see people on them they dont APPEAR as if they are enjoying themselves even tho they are but just cuz it's analgesic doesnt really mean anything(so is lettuce)
 
Well I ordered some, didnt do shit smoked or sublinually.

COOLIO... How were u able to snort it, did it come as powder? My shit was like almost rock solid tar. Even mortar/pestel would b difficult to powderize it.
 
What?!

thenightwatch said:
thats a sweet molecule, thanks for resurrecting this thread.

coolio probably didn't feel many effects from all his oral dosing due to first pass metabolism, of course. i bet IV is the way to go with this stuff!
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IV'ing any sort of untested substance like this would be incredibly stupid.
You deserve your bluelighter status revoked.

Or how's this; your pet monkey can IV the shit and we'll just watch.
 
As long as it's pure, filtered and sterile, IV isn't that much different from other ROAs.

Going by the size of the thing, I really doubt smoking would work.
 
wow neat, that structure is a computational chemist's wet dream, a synthetic chemist's nightmare. good thing nature provides thought-provoking shapes like this. just talking structural aesthetics of course. (ok maybe a lil' double speak).

any chance this is a pro-drug for something like eseroline? i know there is a seperate binding site for polymers on NMDA receptor, and eseroline wiki said nothing of nmda inhibition, just mu-opioid agonism, but structural similarity begs the question.

btw, i'm working on modeling nmda receptor/non-competitive inhibitor interaction just lately. just getting started with pdb: 2RC8 and pcp and mk801. there's so many arylcyclohexylamine and other ligands for that pcp-binding site, so maybe i'll get something good going on and post some new pics. 5ht2a stuff is not dead, was reading PiHKAL at home and noticed in entry for 2ct17 Shulgin discusses chirality at ring position, so . . . Have been modeling peptidomimetic HIV protease inhibitors a bit, too, but not sure if that's bluelight's idea of ADD. . . anyway.

p.s. any help on nmda binding site info would be nice, haven't accessed scientific (pay) journals yet. if anyone has already worked on this and wants to share.
 
HomebrewChemist said:
IV'ing any sort of untested substance like this would be incredibly stupid.
You deserve your bluelighter status revoked.

Or how's this; your pet monkey can IV the shit and we'll just watch.
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for all you know i work at purdue and i was talking about IVing rats. Advanced Drug Discussion is the only forum where i do not adhere to the lowest common denominator as far as intelligence/harm reduction is concerned.

most everyone in this forum (ADD not BL as a whole) is quite well aware of the risks of doing anything unknown with drugs. thanks though.

also now that i am a little familiar with HPBCD and its ilk i think that complexing Psychotridine with HPBCD would perhaps be a better alternative to IVing. who knows though, not i nor you. :)
 
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