I would totally agree, but I don't believe the spirit of psychiatry today is based in witch-hunting.
So let me get this straight. You are offended by me calling depression a natural state of mind but you don't see anything wrong with offending my country as a "third world country"? Ain't you a hypocrite...I don't know which third-world country you live in, but in my country this is simply not the case.
And I'm speaking as someone who's been in the mental health system since the age of 12, has been sectioned (involuntary commitment) numerous times, and is on a large regimen of psychiatric medication - which I need.
For some people, medication is essential for a normal functioning life.
Again, I had the same symptoms. Impulsivity, chaotic relationships, suicide ideation and threats, self-cutting. I can show you pictures with the cuttings. All symptoms, as I said in my previous posts. I got cured by growing the f..k up and accepting that I've been lying to myself, ofc it was easier for me to accept that I was "ill" than to accept that I'm acting like an emo teenager. I'm 21 now, I can't act like a frustrated teenager forever.I've also been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder. Depression and impulsivity are both symptoms of it. Fortunately in my country, medical care is free so my family didn't have to worry about the costs - I'm sorry to hear your circumstances were different. But believe me, I've been in your shoes. I've had six cops turn up at my house after I had a major mental breakdown, and they told me if I didn't go willingly they would have to force me into hospital under the Mental Health Act. I told them I wouldn't go, and if they tried to force me, I'll get violent. At that point one officer reached out to grab my arm. I recoiled and slapped him in the face. Within seconds I was pinned to the ground with at least several officers on me, cuffing my wrists and tying my ankles. As they carried me into the back of a patrol car, I spat in one of their faces and was forced to wear a spit hood for the rest of the night. I then spent the next week in a high-security psychiatric facility. Looking back, it was probably for the best.
I don't know why any doctor would prescribe valproic acid for your Borderline Personality Disorder unless you were having severe mood swings - it's a mood-stabiliser. Anyway, I'm glad you were able to wean yourself off the medication and then feel better afterwards. But please keep in mind that not all of us are the same.
Psychology is much more of a "pseudo-science" than psychiatry.
its about making money- hence the wide variety of conditions (female sexual dysfunction anybody?)= more markets= more drugs=more patents=more bucks
there was show on tv (in uk) recently where a consultant came on telly and said that medicine and the pharamceutical companies have shifted away from treating acute diseases to creating drugs to "prevent" disease, thus more patients take them fro longer hence more money e.g. statins
its a phalic sea![]()
How many times do I have to criticize the sweeping generalizations before you stop making them or provide sufficient data to back them up?
If psychiatrists do IN FACT more harm then good, then there is evidence. Let's see it.
If psychiatrists harm people, their patients can sue them. This is the reason why we have a legal system. This really doesn't happen as often as people make it out to be.
Yeah, but that speaks nothing to psychiatry. Can you find something on a psychiatrist like this?
Do I hear the pot calling the kettle black? 8)
You asked me to provide evidence to back up my claims (which I did), and now you're the one making baseless assumptions! What lead you to the conclusion that psychiatrists do more harm than good, and do you have anything to actually support that?
So let me get this straight. You are offended by me calling depression a natural state of mind but you don't see anything wrong with offending my country as a "third world country"? Ain't you a hypocrite...
From the age of 12? No wonder you're so brainwashed...
Question: how do the people that don't have access to ssris, shrinks, diagnoses or any other of this shit LIVE? How? Explain to me. Why don't they need the meds just like you? How come humankind lived tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of years without them, now that they were invented, suddenly people need them?
Can you sincerely think critically about some hunter-gatherer tribe in the Amazon having problems with a kid cutting himself with sharp bones asking for his pills? Damn, I get so sad when I see shrinks convincing rational, normal people that they're sick. Worked on me too, but not for long.
In my "3rd world country" 20 years ago nobody ever heard or had these "disorders". ADHD, borderline, bipolar... They didn't exist.
Once the commercial for ADHD appeard on TV and brochures were presented to schools suddenly we started having the first "sufferers". ADHD is another shrink-gem. A child hyperactive and that doesn't respect authority? Oh noes that's MENTAL ILLNESS, not NORMAL child behaviour. Drug him with powerful stimulants!
Lemme tell you something. If you didn't read about borderline on wikipedia you wouldn't even know you "had" it.
Again, I had the same symptoms. Impulsivity, chaotic relationships, suicide ideation and threats, self-cutting. I can show you pictures with the cuttings. All symptoms, as I said in my previous posts. I got cured by growing the f..k up and accepting that I've been lying to myself, ofc it was easier for me to accept that I was "ill" than to accept that I'm acting like an emo teenager. I'm 21 now, I can't act like a frustrated teenager forever.
I suggest to the shrink community to rename Borderline Personality Disorder to "adolescence'.
I know most people won't take this seriously, I mean, coming on BL saying disorders don't exist is like going to kindergarten telling the kids Santa doesn't exist. But I tried.
Nothing so freaking large in such a small amount of time could ever be precise. Stop the character assassination/mockery. Its not constructive...
Being sarcastic alone doesn't constitute being a hypocrite. 8)So let me get this straight. You are offended by me calling depression a natural state of mind but you don't see anything wrong with offending my country as a "third world country"? Ain't you a hypocrite...
If you learned THC is the cure to cancer, would you utilize it?Question: how do the people that don't have access to ssris, shrinks, diagnoses or any other of this shit LIVE? How? Explain to me. Why don't they need the meds just like you? How come humankind lived tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of years without them, now that they were invented, suddenly people need them? Can you sincerely think critically about some hunter-gatherer tribe in the Amazon having problems with a kid cutting himself with sharp bones asking for his pills? Damn, I get so sad when I see shrinks convincing rational, normal people that they're sick. Worked on me too, but not for long.
You're blowing this out of proportion. A lot of people have ADD and ADHD, though it is known to be overdiagnosed. I'm not going to say it isn't.ADHD is another shrink-gem. A child hyperactive and that doesn't respect authority? Oh noes that's MENTAL ILLNESS, not NORMAL child behaviour. Drug him with powerful stimulants!
You're ignorant, please discontinue discussing this subject with us.Lemme tell you something. If you didn't read about borderline on wikipedia you wouldn't even know you "had" it.
Hooray for you! You didn't need intense psychotherapy or to be on medications long term! Not everyone's like you!Again, I had the same symptoms. Impulsivity, chaotic relationships, suicide ideation and threats, self-cutting. I can show you pictures with the cuttings. All symptoms, as I said in my previous posts. I got cured by growing the f..k up and accepting that I've been lying to myself, ofc it was easier for me to accept that I was "ill" than to accept that I'm acting like an emo teenager. I'm 21 now, I can't act like a frustrated teenager forever.
We're convinced you don't have psychiatric disorders, we don't really care though. People who have mental disorders outside of personality disorders are very aware they have a problem, and they actively seek help for it.I suggest to the shrink community to rename Borderline Personality Disorder to "adolescence'.
I know most people won't take this seriously, I mean, coming on BL saying disorders don't exist is like going to kindergarten telling the kids Santa doesn't exist. But I tried.
psychiatrists prescribe drugs that have been approved by a system with poor standards for safety and efficacy.
That's just not true. There's often tests or scans for biologically based psychiatric conditions. They are often done in hospitals, and not in the office of a psychiatrist. They would likely refer you to a hospital for testing.in addition, i believe psychiatric diagnoses can be hand waving since rarely is there a biological test for supposedly biologically based mental disorders.
People seek out psychiatrists to get drugs. A lot of them are already seeking a first line of treatment as therapy, and are using medication as an adjunct.i also think psychiatric drugs are too frequently prescribed as a first line of treatment. i see a psychiatrist's job as to bring a patient to a higher level of mental health and in general terms, i don't think psychiatric drugs accomplish this. taking a whole bunch of toxic drugs every day that mask your symptoms and make you FEEL better, is not my idea of health. it doesn’t solve the underlying issues that give rise to the symptoms in the first place.
Like I said before man, I agree. So what we still doing here? lol
That's the government's fault, NOT psychiatrists.
Do you begin to see the government as the source of these problems? Hopefully you should.
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your point being? maybe it should happen more often. but it's not as easy to sue a psychiatrist and win as you make it out to be, especially when it can be difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt your problems are due to treatment and not your disorder. and what about all the cases where people are harmed but not necessarily enough to sue?
evidence that psychiatrists do harm? ever heard of google? as for whether they do more harm than good, that is subjective and, as i said, it is just my opinion.
We can certainly agree on that, the FDA and the DEA would be better not existing at all. The United States would be better because of it.yeah, the government and FDA should bare a lot of the blame. it's a shame that more of the public isn't aware that the FDA is full of shit.
You're right, some of these mental diseases have no way of physiologically diagnosing. There's a lot of mental disorders and not all of them are like that.
I think if psychiatrists weren't restricted by the unnecessary drug prohibition laws, this country would be a lot better, and most psychiatrists would be able to help people out a lot more. Most doctors also wouldn't be horribly misinformed (hopefully, they are now).ok, i'll give you that. i'm not saying the public isn't to blame [in large part] for the mass comsumption of psych drugs in society today but that doesn't change how i feel about the other points i made.