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Psychedelics rated according to vasoconstrictive effects

twentysix

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I am curious what others have come across...

I don't have the awareness some might in this area- I only became aware of my body recently in regard... so no list from me. I did find 25D-NBOMe to be actually scary, though.
 
The NBOMe's have quite a bit of body load I've noticed. People have died from 25i before, if you weren't aware.
 
I would not doubt it. I probably came close when I took 2.4 of the 25D. I just laid down in a sweat... naked, for three hours. I have developed a bad taste for anything "NBOMe"- not that I have given the others a chance. For me it just seems too much of a risk if you can't safely overdose. Alcohol, allows this (one reason it is popular). So does LSD, mushrooms, MJ... DPT. I liked 2C-D because it felt rather benign... and have heard of people going above 100 mg with no issue. But I do remember vasoconstriction... just not the feeling that I could really die.

4-AcO-DMT might have been the nicest on my body- feeling during... of any psychedelic. I was blessed to experience that.

DOC had some- but at low doses I found it somewhat therapeutic in this effect. Well... the one time I took it for this purpose (to suppress an allergic reaction to fish)...
 
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For me it just seems too much of a risk if you can't safely overdose.

I'd define an overdose to be higher than a 'safe' dose, as far as such a concept of safety is applicable to RCs in general. I think you meant that the NBOMe compounds obviously do not have a benign safety margin between 'common reasonable' dose and overdose, resulting in (more or less severe) adverse effects (be it seizures or death or whatever, depends on definition). Slowly titrating up with a consistent route of administration and additionally dosing conservatively is especially important for these compounds.

I don't know 25D-NBOMes potency by experience but if it is in the same order of magnitude of the chloro counterpart, I'd think 2.4 mg would be a rather high dose. Glad you came out of that in one piece :) Be careful!
 
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I would have to say the NBOME's are some of the worst. Took three tabs of 25D which were sold as 800mics each so 2.4mg. Only time I ever worried about my heart rate while tripping. Reminded myself that I was probably overreacting.

Have not encountered any serious problems with other NBOME's at reasonable doses. My hands sometimes feel a little puffy and tight. Definitely not the safest psychedelics.

4-aco-dmt feels as clean as LSD on the body. I imagine more tryptamines are as well.
 
Sounds like you were an idiot like me... With that one (25D). No offense!

@Sn23- Yea, this is what I meant.

I also felt the same about 25D and titration... but this classifies as a true "research" compound, as small as I might need to start not to be shocked- I dont know. I need a lab. I think vasoconstriction wasnt bad at doses most wouldnt consider recreational. Like... Not an eighth of a 800 mic tab- so maybe 50 ug 100 ug range, as far as I know. But even 400 mics hurt.

Referring to heart rate on 2.4 of 25D... I made myself stop trying to gauge it. It was 20 minutes after dosing... and I had to lay down. Kind if felt like it was beating one direction, but with no rest period. I would not be surprised if I did actually have a heart attack... but I felt okay a few hours later... actually taking more.

Now.. my choice to "dislike" this one is purely based on this danger/pain- not on its effects, which were really some of the most profound. Problem was... my body.
 
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