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Miscellaneous Psychedelics in tandem with dissociatives have "AI visuals"

ErgotFiend

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Met another person who agreed with me, so I had to make a post. When I mixed LSD and DXM together a few times, I consistently had very vivid visuals that looked exactly like AI generated videos except, they were more coherent, visually beautiful, and longer in duration. But the resemblance was still uncanny for me. Getting to try ketamine with acid soon, I'll report back if I still agree with this take, but I really think the combo has a striking resemblance.

Relatable or am I saying nonsense? Any thoughts on what this could mean (if anything)? Is it noise getting filtered into coherent visual information with a clear narrative similar to these models? Weird times we are living through lads.
 
Never done that particular combo (DXM and LSD) although I'd like to and have certainly mixed many other dissos and hallucinogens, including ketamine and LSD on many, many occasions. It's interesting, heh... I did not perceive the visual aspect as AI-style, but at the time I did these combos, AI tech was really in it's infancy, so I guess I'm showing my age and probably reading yours as growing up in a world where a new experience can be related to such a phenomenon as AI generated videos... :p I mean I guess I had Windows Media Player visualizations, "screensaver" animations on computers in my school, like with the pipes filling up the screen, some of that imagery is a trip, but I'm getting sidetracked...

Obviously you've made a fairly broad statement since nowadays AI can generate a wide range of videos and you haven't actually attempted to visually explain the nature of your hallucinations :LOL:... so of course any visuals could conceivably have been generated (whether or not they truly were) in a way that could be reproduced videographically, somehow... but...

I feel like I keep trying to get to the main point of interest here for me - if you look at old Google DeepMind images, before the multimodal, Turing-test-passing mysterious chatbots of today... I can't find the article or link or whatever but they released these pictures the AIs they were training had generated, without that much context, of dogs. Like they had tried to teach the AI model to be able to "see" a dog in the messy disparate data of reality and it's training process includes generating their own conceptions of dogs, I guess, and they're'all fractaldogs, like, the kinda thing you'd see for sure on a heavy acid trip with a little K thrown in, heh, easy. Like the dogs paw is actually another dog if you look closer and so on and so on. I'm sure someone could find the images but I remember thinking seeing them, heh, "That looks like being on psychedelics"...

But eventually they got better and smarter and became able to generate images and videos of actual, real dogs and cats that aren't just infinite disturbingly mutated fractal dogs, But they still "know" in a very ahuman sense what they were doing before and that it's weird... And that, evidently, appears to be what needs to happen to teach an AI what a dog is. And, arguably, it's exactly what we do in a much more diffuse sort of way by virtue of accumulation of memories to sort through and such... we are "generatively trained" by existing in reality, but there appear to be parallel processes at play, I guess, in that... Even the rarified, pruned, comparatively absurdly compressed fragments of reality that are fed to AI models start to follow patterns and go through strange and absurd convolutions to produce something that looks like something we understand and can relate to.

Haha I really dunno if I answered your question, was there even a specific question? But, god, how even to say it without sounding like it's playing it down, there's some definite psychedelic stuff happening in the "minds" of AIs that now appear to think and reason visually... I think the disso- aspect is also relevant too, because, well, multiple fronts actually... dissos are probably just the most primed to look for the exact same "the secret god creatures behind material reality", ie, "how is it possible that I exist, think and feel", neurological kinda circuits as are also in play in "AI psychosis" type incidents, heh, and the AI psychosis thing is real but it's not the AIs doing it (probably, necessarily?)... actually we're talking visuals here I just remembered so no need to get into the whole "how sentient are they?" question which doesn't matter in the context. But AIs themselves are the ultimate dissociated entity, from a human-side, so... fuck I'm just rambling anyway I'm actually stoned and on a little K right now so I dunno where I'm even going here. BUT! I think what you say is relatable and it means something.

Edit: I haven't read this yet lol just skimmed the images but i think it's vaguely on topic - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/do-machines-dream-brecht-corbeel-ghd3e/
 
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