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Psychedelics and Social Alienation

Social Alien

Ever since getting into psyches ive started to see the real truth in everything, and everyone. I cant relate to many people anymore, not that its a problem; most people I don't want to relate to. The world seems so fake to me anymore, at least society anyway.

I was wondering if anyone could give me some tips on just how to deal with all this. I'm doing ok with it, but it all seems so hopeless. I feel like for the rest of my life I will be living in a world of arrogance and atrocity, and I don't know how ill be able to take it. I think the best thing for me would be to meet anyone else who really knows what its like, but I feel like that'll never happen.
 
find some other people who use psychedelics then start your own commune on a desert island =]

but seriously find other people who use psychedelics if you can (this has been a long and fruitless search for me thus far)
 
I will as soon as i can, but thats still a bit away. I'm a high school junior in a private school full of stuck up rich kids and my two friends who I actually encouraged to do psyches, and I'm starting to become closer to them again. Speaking of school this is starting to make my grades go downhill as well, not that I really mind though. Not to sound arrogant but I'm smarter than most of the people who teach me. Grades seem to be all that matter in society but I really don't care anymore.
 
for me i also made sure to keep in mind that even tho society is so so screwed up and all i want to do is to leave it. i have to live in it no matter what at least for now. i came to this conclusion while i was tripping tho so that may have made it have more impact for me. i was in the best place in my life after my first trip but i am now in the same boat as you. i search for psychedelics constantly so i can get back where i was after my first trip. i've heard that people need to keep a regiment of psychedelic dosing to basically stay where i was after my first trip. this is what i'm hoping to find for me
 
Yeah, I notice that after I trip for maybe a day or two I seem content, and I see that even though I have to live in this society, at least I know the truth and I feel empowered by that. I don't really want to have to regiment myself on psychedelics though, although i guess a weekly trip wouldn't be so bad.
 
Propyl Power said:
Congratulations, you are alienated from an egocentric, infantile, delusional society with a deathwish for both itself and the planet on which it spreads like a cancer. Why is this a problem for you again?

No, you're not the same person you were before. That's what makes psychedelics useful, they are catalysts for personal growth and evolution.

You're feeling some shock because the veil has been (partially) removed from your eyes, and likely want things to go back to being safe, comfortable, and orderly like they used to be. Well they aren't. The world is infinitely complex, subtle, bizarre, and groundless. And that's wonderful, because now you can get down to the business of actually living your life instead of suppressing your soul for an industrialized police state for which you are nothing more than grist for the mill.

Maybe you need to find some better goals, that are more fulfilling and true to yourself.

Also if you can find some other psychedelically illuminated people, maybe you won't feel so alienated :)
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I'm sorry (i know this is a quote from page 1), but that is probably the most perfect answer anyone could ever write.

I totally agree with you on all what you said and its nice to know that im not the only one who thinks this world is just fuckin bizarre.

I laugh at just how some peoples stupid little lifes are, knowing that they will never experience the states of mind I have achieved through psychedelic drug use.
 
bighooter said:
I laugh at just how some peoples stupid little lifes are, knowing that they will never experience the states of mind I have achieved through psychedelic drug use.
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Well I think you've kind of missed the point then. Laughing at others' misery and misfortune makes you just as ignorant as they are. The idea here is to recognize that we are all in this together, and to have some compassion and love for those stuck deep in delusion.

Just because you understand that society is fucked does not give you the right to feel superior than everyone else. If anything it comes with a responsibility to spread love and clarity among those who could use some.
 
^That's the way I like to see it as well, Everyone has there own way of living their life with different paths. In the end we are all here with each other in this universe, and here with the grass and the squirrels as well... There's no point in looking down on other people, it just brings some negativity into your life, instead you shoudl do as PP says and spread what you have learned in a positive manner.
 
jiffilube said:
SwingBreed, I feel bad for you :(
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awww <3

No need. The statement wasn't a nihilistic one; I was reinforcing the message of the two posts above me, in few words. Compassion, for those stuck or trapped, I am one of those people, all of us are. Catch my drift? :)

and the fuck squirrels thing was just spontaneous absurdity. Tasteless perhaps, but fun nonetheless :P
 
I just wanted to say that meeting someone of the opposite sex that is going through these same things while you do, is the most gratifying thing that can probably happen to you in this earthly reality. <3
 
^Oh man I imagine it is, and I'm happy that you are so lucky :)



FUCK SQUIRRELS
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I'd be careful bout what you say to the squiggels man, they have more power than their tiny bodies may make you believe.
 
MyDoorsAreOpen said:
The mystic's journey is an inherently solitary one, in which you agree to strip away any and all cherished ideas, rocks of security and comfort, or things you always took for granted as fundamental parts of you. The prize you win is pure naked consciousness, pure unfiltered sentient being. This is what more mystical-oriented religions mean when they talk about the spark of the divine within. Take the red pill, and you'll come face to face with the naked hand of God that dwells within the sockpuppet which is you. And yet, for all its brute solitude, a mystical experience is hard to walk away from without a greater sense of oneness with everything and everyone.

But relating to others who dare not go where you went can become difficult, depending on how deep an impact your transcendent experience made on your personality and values thereafter.
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I agree that it is difficult to relate to "the ignorant masses". The best thing, I have found, is to try to translate your message into words they will understand. I know that I am not the first to suggest such a thing; just look at some of the phrases in common use these days:

  • "Live in the moment", "no time like the present" and related
  • "Life is but a dream"
  • "Be yourself"

Alas, these messages will get watered down as people become somewhat disillusioned (as you will probably notice, since even I notice that they seem clichéd and, well, used), which is why it's important to never give up. With enough pressure, perhaps we will finally be able to break through.

Remember, in this context you're not trying to change the minds of millions of people. You only need to change one: the emergent entity we label "culture".
 
toomuchtv said:
Thank you. This is exactly what I needed to hear tonight.

I too have been going through my psychedelic mid-life crisis. I actually just logged in to start a thread about it when I started reading this one. It is good to know I am not alone in my journey and others have been down the same path as me. I can only hope I learn to re-integrate myself into society in a way that satisfies my personal values.

I am pretty satisfied with my personal life right now, the biggest issue I am dealing with is my job. I have a professional white collar career and I make good money. I like the people I work with, but the work is killing me. Everyday I wish I had hit this point in my journey while I was still in college, so I could have changed paths. Right now I feel locked into where I am. I have student loans, a car loan, a mortgage, and a wife to support. I feel that I can't just abandon my obligations and walk down another path. My internal turmoil and stress has been wreaking havoc the last couple of weeks.

Does any one have any advice from this point of view? Who has been here before?
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Practice meditation. You can't escape all the things going on in your life but you can however find a balance.
 
jiffilube said:
Grades seem to be all that matter in society but I really don't care anymore.
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And here I was thinking "that one thing" that seems to matter to society was money, not grades. Are both overvalued? Or is the valuation an illusion in both cases, depending on perspective?
 
Your high school grades will not matter beyond trying to get into college, and even then they look more at your SAT/ACT scores and other stuff. High school becomes completely obsolete once you're out of it. All the social drama, all the hierarchies, all the grades, everything... it means nothing other than what you've managed to learn, academic, social or otherwise, once you graduate. Have faith, dude... it's a rite of passage and then it's over, and you're free to make your own way in the world. And if you go off to a different place after high school, for college or otherwise, you have a chance to make a whole new image for yourself, free of the judging and with a lot less immaturity in the people around you.

Places exist where more real qualities are valued. Have faith and look for your bliss. Follow it, and make your own reality. :)

EDIT: I thought I was responding to a different person in a different thread who is in high school... if I'm mistaken about your age then I apologize. Either way, the advice should help someone so I'll leave it as I posted it.
 
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